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Noticed notes were taken out for the team introductions. Are the notes for the songs anywhere else on the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Americanhero24 (talk • contribs) 23:09, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Seriously?!? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Americanhero24 (talk • contribs) 21:32, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

If an edit has a reference than it can stay on a page and not get deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Americanhero24 (talk • contribs) 22:41, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Americanhero24 (talk) 22:48, 4 February 2015 (UTC) Americanhero24

Everything in WP needs to be

consensus for its inclusion. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk

) 22:51, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey. Could Ray Allen have another round of semi-protection? As soon as the last expired in January, there have been no useful edits i.e. from January 8 when a bot removed the semi template, to now, all reverts. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 19:26, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Y—Bagumba (talk) 19:34, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

As an admin could you help get Smith on the front page under "notable deaths?" Seems like we always miss out on getting big basketball figures up there when they die. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 15:07, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

It's gonna take more than the current 2 !votes it has.—Bagumba (talk) 17:48, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Looks like the news of his death made the Wikipedia main page after all. Seems like a no-brainer to me, but I don't usually concern myself with the politics of the front page or "in the news." BTW, where does one "vote" on such things? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 22:32, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

WP:ITNC. I mostly stay out myself. Somewhat predictably, recent deaths gets into editors in other countries voting "no" because they never heard of someone.—Bagumba (talk

) 22:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Is there an expiration on Andrew Wiggins' PC? - Bossanoven (talk) 00:06, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Per Wikipedia:Protection policy, current protections can be found at Special:Log/protect. You can also go to any page's history and click on "View logs for this page" near top of the page under it's title.—Bagumba (talk) 03:30, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks for your help; I assume it means indefinitely, then, given that it neither states "indefinitely" nor a fixed duration. - Bossanoven (talk) 04:17, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Was that your original question? Yes, it appears to be indef.—Bagumba (talk) 04:23, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, indeed, it is what I was asking. - Bossanoven (talk) 04:35, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry. Maybe you should have asked: "The page logs say 'configured pending changes settings for Andrew Wiggins [Auto-accept: require "autoconfirmed" permission] (Persistent vandalism)', but doesn't list a date. When does it expire?" :-)—Bagumba (talk) 04:38, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I'll bite, should I make an NBA infobox for Carl Lewis? - Bossanoven (talk) 00:49, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

What would be your rationale?—Bagumba (talk) 00:56, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

He was drafted by the Chicago Bulls in the 1984 draft. Ergo, he technically could have an infobox. Of course, he technically could have an NFL infobox as well. Hmm, he never played high school or college hoops. OK, OK, I guess this was a waste of time question. I should have read that part first. - Bossanoven (talk) 02:46, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

What's that? I saw you make these edits at basketball position pages. Was wondering what it is thanks. Still learning stuff. --DangerousJXD (talk) 22:38, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

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notable lists in Wikipedia to enumerate items, but it shouldn't be the primary means to explain things.—Bagumba (talk

) 22:57, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Also see Wikipedia:Example cruft.—Bagumba (talk) 22:59, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Thought you might like to know that we have an article on

No point making a non-sports reader having to click on a term any more than is needed.—Bagumba (talk) 02:45, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't know, it seems like a fairly appropriate use of the link, but have as you will. - Bossanoven (talk) 02:52, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

WP:LINKSTYLE: "Do not unnecessarily make a reader chase links: if a highly technical term can be simply explained with very few words, do so. Also use a link, but do not make a reader be forced to use that link to understand the sentence, especially if this requires going into nested links (a link that goes to a page with another technical term needed to be linked, which goes to a page with a link to another technical term, and so on). Don't assume that readers will be able to access a link at all, as, for example, they might have printed an article and be reading the hard copy on paper."—Bagumba (talk

) 02:57, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Have you read all of the help pages? Is that a prerequisite of becoming an admin? - Bossanoven (talk) 03:02, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

No, and it depends. It mostly comes from other's edit warring lol. And why reinvent what some smart person has already written.—Bagumba (talk) 03:06, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

lol. happy editing. - Bossanoven (talk) 03:19, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

On Whiteside's page, I will try and find a source. I assure you, that info is true, during the Heat game few hours ago, the play by play commentator said exactly that. Also another media person said the same thing another time. So it is 100% true. If I can't find a reference, I think it should still be there. --DangerousJXD (talk) 04:30, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

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WP:V: "Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it." Editors besides yourself need to be able to verify this if they choose to. Commentators are difficult because sometime they misspeak; this is less likely to happen with a reliable printed source, where they have more time to double check and proofread. At any rate, video or audio usually requires that it is accessible and a timestamp is made available i.e. you can't expect someone to re-watch a 2:30 game to find one fact.—Bagumba (talk

) 04:42, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

How is it now? --DangerousJXD (talk) 04:50, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

@DangerousJXD: I suggest you re-read he source. I think you oversimplified the "fourth" and "second" player statements from what the source actually says.—Bagumba (talk) 04:59, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

So I should...? --DangerousJXD (talk) 05:05, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Reread what you wrote against what the article said. It's not entirely accurate. If you think it is correct, perhaps you can provide me the specific quote that support what you wrote. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 05:11, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

How bout now? If it's not right, why don't you just fix it? --DangerousJXD (talk) 05:19, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

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honest errors; however, nobody want to become "that one" that causes others to roll their eyes when they show up on their watchlist :-) —Bagumba (talk

) 05:33, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Bags, this stuff is enough to make an angel use profanity: [1]. How hard is it to comprehend the concept of "sporting nationality," i.e., the country for which an athlete competes and/or represents in international competition. That's a rhetorical question, of course. Of the two objecting editors, Hammersoft is by far the more reasonable and subtle of the two, and I would go a long way to accommodate his concerns in the article's main body text and/or lead. Personally, I think the article already does an excellent job of describing Franklin's Canadian origins and her dual citizenship, but I am receptive to changing or expanding the existing text on point. In contrast to Hammer, the other editor has a clear POV agenda regarding Canadian (and Puerto Rican) nationality on Wikipedia (and has been previously blocked for pushing it contrary to consensus), and will not be satisfied until the subject is identified as a Canadian-American swimmer (or the like) in the lead and a Canadian flag icon is displayed in the infobox, both of which are extremely misleading in the context of Franklin's membership of the U.S. national swim team and her chosen sporting nationality. This was hotly discussed on the talk page in the aftermath of the 2012 Olympics, but it is apparent that most of the original discussion participants have either grown weary of the argument or no longer have the page watch-listed.

FYI, I believe we are being completely consistent in how we have handled Franklin's sporting nationality when compared to other U.S. and foreign swimmers and other athletes who hold dual citizenship, including the two examples discussed on the talk page. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

The success rate winning over POVers will always be minimal. However, these issues raised by Hammersoft before are fixable.—Bagumba (talk) 18:14, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Hammer's trying to fight two issues at the same time: (1) the treatment of Franklin's dual citizenship; and (2) flag icons for sporting nationality of national team members, etc. He'll couch both concerns in terms of (1), but he also has a problem with (2). I'm willing to accommodate him in terms of lead and text, and I will even go so far as to add an explanatory footnote for her sporting nationality in the infobox, but the flag icon needs to stay as the symbol of her national team membership and sporting nationality. the idea that we're trying to hide, denigrate, or degrade her Canadian dual citizenship is, well, pick your own characterization of that argument. I'm certainly not trying to do that -- are you? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:25, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Are you asking if I like round bacon?—Bagumba (talk) 18:35, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, something like that. LOL Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:34, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Archive217#Jeremy Lin. GiantSnowman 10:21, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, to bother you, but any chance you would block a very active IP vandal? I reported it on ARV but non one is at home there. Thanks. —Noah 16:09, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Nevermind, someone just put in the block. Cheers, —Noah 16:10, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Generally speaking, are there any other active admins on here in WikiProject NBA? - Bossanoven (talk) 06:19, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

This first question is a separate one. - Bossanoven (talk) 04:07, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

They are around. I don't pay attention too much since I usually don't need one. You can always go to

noticeboards.—Bagumba (talk

) 17:41, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

I think if you were to review DangerousJXD's edit summaries and take them as a whole, you would come to the conclusion that they need some improvement. Examples:

• "Crap."
• "I am so proud of myself."
• "What wonderful spelling by myself."
• "...gay" - Bossanoven (talk) 09:50, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

I will assume you asking for administrative attention. As a general rule of mine, unless it is something egregious, I expect editors to first attempt to resolve conduct disputes with the concerned parties directly before seeking my direct attention. Please

WP:CONDUCTDISPUTE for more details. —Bagumba (talk

) 19:11, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey. This user really needs a block. It's getting stupid now. They are going to keep vandalising Greg Smith with this leniency. DaHuzyBru (talk) 18:22, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey. Could List of 2014–15 NBA season transactions please be semi protected. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 17:19, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I instead blocked one of the editors, who was a repeat violator.—Bagumba (talk) 17:29, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Could you please protect

Y 2 weeks.—Bagumba (talk) 02:57, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Is everything mellow? - Bossanoven (talk) 19:49, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't know about this Special:Contributions/ViLar fellow. He changed Amar'e Stoudemire's height without sourcing it. - Bossanoven (talk) 19:56, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Tobias Harris, please. - Bossanoven (talk) 00:56, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Someone else got to it.—Bagumba (talk) 17:32, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I'd suggest locking Goran Dragic. - Bossanoven (talk) 00:06, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I'll monitor it. I'm usually not a big fan of full protection in these cases.—Bagumba (talk) 00:51, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Good to know. Looks like the trade has been completed now. - Bossanoven (talk) 01:07, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

"WP:IBX encourages keeping infobxes as small as possible. 'When considering any aspect of infobox design, keep in mind the purpose of an infobox: to summarize key facts that appear in the article. The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance.' Too often fields are added in an infobox to compensate for laziness in finding the proper location in prose."

Every once in a while another editor makes a point so perfectly that there is nothing left to say. The paragraph above should be quoted at the top of every future discussion of sport infoboxes. Amen. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 06:46, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Are users generally expected to respond to reasonable questions on their own talk pages? I thought this might be here, but the English is a little ambiguous. - Bossanoven (talk) 20:46, 20 February 2015 (UTC) I ask because there is an editor who has ignored my question for nigh on a week whilst editing away. - Bossanoven (talk) 21:00, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry. Can you be more specific?—Bagumba (talk) 21:17, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Are users allowed to ignore questions on their user talk pages which regard encyclopedic content they have added (while continuing to edit for the foreseeable future)? - Bossanoven (talk) 21:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

WP:SILENCE as a form of consensus.—Bagumba (talk

) 21:42, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Bagumba, I have been wondering, where are the syllable separations in your name? - Bossanoven (talk) 21:25, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Google and find related Gilligan's Island video.—Bagumba (talk) 21:30, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Good. I had the pronunciation right. Does it stem from a language? I watched the show in the past but do not recall its intricacies. - Bossanoven (talk) 21:37, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Head hunters, IIRC. Likely as real as klingon.—Bagumba (talk) 21:40, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Fresh username here for you to block when you have time, I thought about being lenient, but I suppose we have to set an example with such names: Special:Contributions/Jabariparker12. - Bossanoven (talk) 01:42, 7 February 2015 (UTC) By the way, sorry to not inform you, I am not allowed to report these to UAA right now.

• Special:Contributions/LEBRONJAMES21
  • I took care of these two. Generally, I'm not too interested in patrolling this area. I'll take reports about names matching NBA people verbatim. The numbers are subjective if they are not the player's number, but I'll leave the block I already made. The user can appeal it, and it looks like a throwaway acct anyways.—Bagumba (talk) 03:18, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

What does the phrase "pulu see bagumba" mean? - Bossanoven (talk) 08:08, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I am referring to the YouTube link that resulted from the aforementioned Google search. - Bossanoven (talk) 20:36, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Dunno. It's fiction.—Bagumba (talk) 22:24, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Mmmh, hi! Just to tell you that Schnaffyduck and 193.49.199.31 (probably the same guy) are vandalizing the NBA roster pages, by trying to pigeonhole the players positions (turning them into PG, SG, SF, PF, C, which in today's NBA, with players playing multiple positions all the time and all) and doing unnecessary redirects (like turning Chris Kaman into Christopher Kaman and Manu Ginobili into Emanuel Ginobili) without really stating a reason. Anyway, just to give you a heads up before we have a potential edit war. Have a nice day! Intruder007 (talk) 22:50, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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WT:NBA, or just leave me a note if edit warring persists. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk

) 23:19, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks to you. Intruder007 (talk) 23:20, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Following this, the classic "death" vandalism probably won't stop on Jae Crowder for a while... DaHuzyBru (talk) 19:10, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Y So original.—Bagumba (talk) 20:37, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

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