User talk:Boleyn/Archive 21
Help on resolving issues on the Planetary Consciousness article
Hi Boleyn, I've revised the
Thank you. I have made some minor edits to the page. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 09:45, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry
Sorry about that. Quis separabit? 18:20, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, but no need to apologise - it's more important to have the person added than that the style is right, the style can be easily amended. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 19:01, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Geoffrey Gordon
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- Hi, Boleyn: I spotted this and my first instinct was to unspeedy it as a being useful dab and obviously the result of work spent on disentangling similarly-named people. But on looking further, the computer programmer had only one incoming redlink, and that was as the author of a reference, so he seemed unlikely ever to have an article - I unlinked him. The composer's redlinks could then all have been changed to the base name, but it didn't seem worth the effort. I've added him to the dab page at Jeffrey, and made Geoffrey into a redirect there, with a note on the talk page of the redirect. I hope you're happy with this lot. PamD 09:02, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
- And left a note at User_talk:Discospinster#Dab_pages. PamD 09:10, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into it, that seems fine. Boleyn (talk) 11:08, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
Freeport (Amtrak station):
Would you care to merge
Hello, DanTD, and thanks for looking at this page. I've just proposed it be merged to its own section in Freeport dab. It should be merged in a few days if there are no objections. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 17:28, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
- Done ---------User:DanTD (talk) 14:15, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
Underlinked
Just so you know, Underlinked doesn't work in the old style of Multiple issues, tried here. In order for it to work it has to use the new style in curly brackets shown here. Thanks. Del♉sion23 (talk) 01:32, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know. Boleyn (talk) 19:37, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
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Nomination of Matthew Cocks for deletion
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Andrew Fox (disambig, not disambig, and so on)
Hopefully Andrew Fox now points to what you, sensibly, think it should point to. If not please give me a shout on my talkpage. Regards Tonywalton Talk 00:38, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for moving it. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 08:03, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Your deletion
Could you please explain why you deleted my reference to Anthony Campbell (Welsh physician) on this disambiguation page My reference to the BBC website makes it pretty obvious that he is not the same person as the other Anthony Campbell who is also a physician. I also included his birth date, as per MOS:D. The only reason I can think of is that there were no links to him. Thanks Llywelyn2000 (talk) 06:06, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello and sorry I didn't leave an edit summary. References and external links don't belong on
- Hi. What part of the MOS:DABMENTION do they not meet? The only reason I can think of is that there were no links to the scientist in question; is that correct? Llywelyn2000 (talk) 04:39, 29 December 2012 (UTC)]
Hello. It didn't meet any part of them. There was a blue link to an article which didn't mention him (
- I left a link to the University's article on him for the sole purpose that any reasonable editor would follow it and realise that Professor Anthony Campbell exists and that the disambiguation reference to him was bona fide, relevant and a good addition to Wkipedia. I've just double checked the link I left and it works fine - a direct link to the article on him. To say that my link didn't mention him' is untrue. The whole article is about him:
"Professor Anthony Campbell had the idea of replacing radioactivity in immunoassay and DNA technology by a chemical reaction that makes light - chemiluminescence. This invention has now transformed clinical diagnosis, and is a world leading technology, now used in several 100 million clinical tests per year, world-wide." I would have expected you or another to have deleted the link as soon as you had verified it, as it was obviously a temporary measure. But you also decided to delete the reference to Professor Anthony Campbell. Rushing in to delete people's contributions has a very negative effect on the community and I ask you to think twice in doing so again. In future, please also detail exactly which part of theMOS:DABMENTION you are using, when doing so. It was my intention to follow up the disambiguation link with an article. I will now leave that to others. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 17:52, 29 December 2012 (UTC)]
- I left a link to the University's article on him for the sole purpose that any reasonable editor would follow it and realise that Professor Anthony Campbell exists and that the disambiguation reference to him was bona fide, relevant and a good addition to Wkipedia. I've just double checked the link I left and it works fine - a direct link to the article on him. To say that my link didn't mention him' is untrue. The whole article is about him:
The article that didn't mention him was, if I remember rightly, a link to a WP article on a town. As I said before, links to external articles don't belong on disambiguation pages.
- Many thanks for the explanation to my original question "Could you please explain why you deleted my reference to Anthony Campbell". My link was: this one and as you will verify, it is NOT "a link to a WP article on a town." You will find this link on this disambiguation page. Please confirm that my link was to the article on Prof Anthony Campbell (scientist). I have no objection to the "guidelines" and have given you my reasons for including these temp. refs, which were ignored, or wrongly followed to some unknown "town" webpage. Can I now suggest that you undo your deletion, as it is obvious that Campbell merits a listing on the disambiguation page. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 10:53, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
The link to a WP article on a town/area in the entry was
Speedy deletion nomination of John Zouche
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Please be very careful about nominating pages for speedy deletion within minutes of creation. In this case, this page has two entries which have articles, and one which meets
]Hello Boleyn. You've asked for this to be deleted as a G6. I assume that
I do.
- OK with me. A hatnote may be unnecessary. Some other admin did the G6 and I have since tried to update Cameron Hall (basketball, born 1957)? When you type 'Cameron Hall' in the WP search box you now see both Cameron Hall (basketball) and Cameron Hall (basketball, born 1957). This might give the searcher the impression that they are two separate people. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 17:54, 29 December 2012 (UTC)]
Thanks for that. The redirect should probably be deleted then, I guess it serves no purpose and could confuse readers. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 08:45, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Daryl Dixon
Why did you remove the tag on Daryl Dixon? Do you have the authority to disallow my original request? Barsoomian (talk) 17:45, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Barsoomian. The reason I removed it was given in the edit summary. As to whether I have the authority, yes, any user has the authority to remove it. A speedy deletion tag suggests it is 'uncontroversial', so anyone can object. It is only an AfD tag that can't be removed. I have also added 2 entries. You could still take it to AfD (although there would be no chance of it being deleted). Alternatively you could put in a move request saying that you feel the Walking Dead character is the primary. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 17:52, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- Great. Now I'd have to waste hours of time to navigate the maze of jargon and bureaucracy to clear this up. The only other "Daryl Dixon" article is an orphan article created by the subject, that probably should have been deleted immediately it was created. Barsoomian (talk) 18:03, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Barsoomian. You certainly wouldn't have to spend hours moving the page. I added a {notability} tag to the economic writer's article as you were concerned about his notability. If you feel confident it should be deleted, you might consider
Ann Taylor disambiguation
Is the argument that Anne Taylor is NOT currently notable, but may become notable? And therefore deserves a red link here? According to Netball and the Olympic Movement, she is someone appointed by a Netball Federation to study Olympic guidelines, which doesn't strike me as notable. Horstvonludwig (talk) 20:23, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Hello.
You obviously have more experience with these pages than me but,
Do not create red links to articles that are unlikely ever to be written, or are likely to be removed as insufficiently notable topics.
Since an Anne Taylor article is unlikely to be written, I read that as meaning there should not be a red link here for this non-notable person. Of course, as an admitted exclusionist, if the WP guidelines are contradictory, I am always on the side of deletion. Horstvonludwig (talk) 14:45, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
I do understand your point, but those guidelines are about whether her name is made a redlink or left black (with a blue link later in the line), not about whether the entry is added at all (e.g Ann Taylor, librarian, see [x], or [Ann Taylor (librarian)], see [x]). It is a redlink in an article, so somebody has deemed her to meet the guidelines for creating a redlink. I tend to think that if they are already a redlink in an article, then adding a redlink on the dab isn't really 'creating' a redlink to the person, because they are already redlinked on WP, but that's just my interpretation. Either way, I would redlink it unless I'd looked seriously into the person and was sure they weren't notable, and then I'd also remove the redlink in the article which mentions her. She would still be a valid addition to a dab though. Taking it all into account, I agree with MOS:DABMENTION, but if you disagree strongly it may be worth discussing at Wikiproject:Disambiguation. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 14:36, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Fair enough, I take your point. So, my "battle" would be with the author(s) of the
Hopefully no need for battles! :) If you've looked carefully into it and feel the link in the article should be removed, then remove it, or start a discussion on the article's Talk page. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 16:57, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm SarahStierch. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Whittingstall, and have un-reviewed it again. If you've got any questions, please ask me on my talk page. Thanks, SarahStierch
Hello, this was a page that I had created rather than reviewed, and was still under construction. It wouldn't have been OK in its condition when you looked at it. It is now complete. Best wishes and thanks for looking at it and letting me know, Boleyn (talk) 20:37, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)I was curious about this so followed the link... and am still puzzled.
- Can you see any point in the orphan redirect at Whittingstall's? Yes, the possessive adjective (or whatever it is, grammatically) is present in that paragraph, but that's not a justification for a link. (On the other hand I added the chap in that para to the dab page at Fearnley-Whittingstall, where he seemed to belong).?) No, on 2nd thoughts no harm in this 2-entry dab page!)
Then without that spurious entry the dab page seems a bit marginal. How about Whittingstall as a redirect to Eileen, if she appears to have been known by the single surname, with a hatnote to Fearnley-Whittingstall - Is there any indication that the tennis player was known as E F-W? If so, please add that to her article. If not, then don't redirect to it. It's very confusing at present, when the only indication of F-W is a mention of her marriage, way down the article.
- Please stick to the rule of giving dates and annotation to entries for people in dab pages, not just the bare names as you did at Fearnley-Whittingstall. MOSDAB says "For people, include their birth and death years (when known), and only enough descriptive information that the reader can distinguish between different people with the same name." If someone knows that it's Jane F-W they're looking for, they're likely to search on that name. If they just know the garden was designed by F-W, they need guidance at the dab page. They've got it now, but I was surprised that as a dab-specialist you didn't include it anyway. Perhaps the whole Wittingstall/F-W setup is still a work in progress? PamD 09:34, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- Looking again, WP:MOSDAB of course doesn't apply but the lead line needs to be altered from "F-W may refer to" to "F-W is a surname...". Will do that. There's scope for a lot of confusion between dab pages and surname pages, but I think this is the right solution here. PamD 09:40, 7 January 2013 (UTC)]
- And I've now created a stub about the tennis-player's artist husband Edmund Owen Fearnley-Whittingstall (her first of 4 it seems, according to the fascinating unreliable source I found at http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=425294 !). Really must get on with some non-wiki real life stuff now... it's so easy to get led into interesting pathways. PamD 10:38, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- Looking again,
- Can you see any point in the orphan redirect at
As you put in your later message, it is a surname page so
Hello
I suspect it's on your watchlist, but I made some fairly hefty revisions on this page so flagging it as a courtesy. I think the list should focus only on mistresses and alleged mistresses - other women Henry was somehow associated wirth is going to get very long.
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Ways to improve Judith Grimes
Hello, Boleyn,
Thank you for creating Judith Grimes.
Hard to understand: it is written as a long description in poor English.
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- Hi, Kingsif, I just created a redirect years ago, I'm not sure who created the article. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 11:52, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
The Saluting Marine
I'm not as frequent of an "Editor" as I used to be, so I've forgotten a lot. There was/is a reference on my account's "Alerts" section, saying that you had questioned the Notability of "The Saluting Marine". Huh.
He has set quite an example that I understand has been followed at various national cemeteries and other relevant locations.
Our own local National Cemetery now typically has one such veteran who salutes the entire day while we civilians pass him by (on relevant federally-observed holidays).
I'd say that's rather relevant.
LP-mn (talk) 22:09, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, LP-mn, I'm glad to see the article is now in much better shape. I reviewed it for NEw Page Patrol, essentially saying it was OK for inclusion and to be indexed by Google. It had no references at the time, so was marked as unreferenced and that it's notability hadn't been made clear. Hopefully the iprovements have now addressed this. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 07:09, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Menachem
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