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Hi. Edited the draft by putting on some sources and references. Thank you. User:Jcsingko (talk)

Inquiry on new article
Draft:White Rock Whalers

Hi Cassiopeia,

New contributor to wikipedia. I'm attempting to add an article for a junior hockey team, thought it has been declined twice although a reference (a new article) was added.

Are you able to provide some insight into why as I can't seem to figure it out.

Thank you.

24.80.202.10 (talk) 01:13, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Cassiopeia, Thank you for your reply. I have taken your advice and registered with Wikipedia as well as resubmitted the article with 2 more independent sources. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 19slb04 (talkcontribs) 00:42, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi

I have deleted this as requested, but I'm not entirely sure what you plan to do next? Were you intending to pass

file a request for adminship (or get someone like me to file one for you), then you can just do these moves yourself. :-) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:13, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Ritchie333 Greetings to you and thank you for helping out. The Draft:Diana (musical) has no sources at the present stage to support and verify the contain claimed, as such it will remain in the draft space.
I am grateful for your encouragement and also appreciate you would file the RfA for me. I have been a prolific editor and have contributed in different areas in Wikipedia; however, I think to some of the voters in RfA, my time in Wikipedia would deem not long enough for the request. I would take your support as the motivation to gain more experience for future opportunity in RfA. Thank you.
Okay, I've had a quick look and I think the main problem you'll have is that you've tagged too many things for speedy deletion that have been declined, such as
CSD G12 only applies if every revision of the article is a copyright violation; otherwise you can simply revert back to an earlier version. Since all these declined speedies have come up in the past few weeks, I don't think an RfA is appropriate at this time. However, I don't really see a problem elsewhere, and provided we can see about 6-9 months of good, responsible CSD tagging, I think we might be in a position to revisit this. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:36, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Jiu-jitsu during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:50, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.17

Hello Cassiopeia,

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #030, 17 Mar 2019

Previous issue:

Single-page portals: 4,704
Total portals: 5,705

This issue:

Single-page portals: 4,562
Total portals: 5,578

The collection of portals has shrunk

All Portals closed at

WP:MfD
during 2019

Grouped Nominations total 127 Portals:

  1. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/US County Portals Deleted 64 portals
  2. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Districts of India Portals Deleted 30 Portals
  3. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portals for Portland, Oregon neighborhoods Deleted 23 Portals
  4. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Allen Park, Michigan Deleted 6 Portals
  5. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cryptocurrency Deleted 2 Portals
  6. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:North Pole Deleted 2 Portals

Individual Nominations:

  1. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Circles Deleted
  2. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Fruits Deleted
  3. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:E (mathematical constant) Deleted
  4. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Burger King Deleted
  5. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cotingas Deleted
  6. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Prostitution in Canada Deleted
  7. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Agoura Hills, California Deleted
  8. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Urinary system Deleted
  9. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:You Am I Deleted
  10. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cannabis (2nd nomination) Reverted to non-Automated version
  11. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Intermodal containers Deleted
  12. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Adventure travel Deleted
  13. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Adam Ant Deleted
  14. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Benito Juárez, Mexico City Deleted
  15. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Spaghetti Deleted
  16. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Wikiatlas Deleted
  17. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Greek alphabet Deleted
  18. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Deleted
  19. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Accounting Deleted G7
  20. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Lents, Portland, Oregon Deleted P2
  21. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Ankaran Deleted
  22. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Jiu-jitsu Deleted G8
  23. Portal:University of Nebraska Speedy Deleted P1/A10 exactly the same as Portal:University of Nebraska–Lincoln also created by the TTH

Related WikiProject:

  1. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Quantum portals Demoted

(Attribution: Copied from Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Portal MfD Results)

WikiProject Quantum portals

This was a spin-off from WikiProject Portals, for the purpose of developing zero-page portals (portals generated on-the-screen at the push of a button, with no stored pages).

It has been merged back into WikiProject Portals. In the MfD the vote was "demote". See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Quantum portals.

Hiatus on mass creation of Portals

At

WP:VPR
, mass creation of Portals using semi-automated tools has been put on hold until clearer community consensus is established.

See Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Hiatus on mass creation of Portals.

The Transhumanist banned from creating new portals for 3 months

See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Proposal 1: Interim Topic-Ban on New Portals.

Until next issue...

Keep on keepin' on.    — The Transhumanist   02:58, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

19:43, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

I added some references to this page. However, I did not mean to create a full page - all I meant was to create a stub so that it can be linked from other pages that I work on. There are many other stubs on living people. Now that I have added references, can it be returned to the main space? --Erel Segal (talk) 15:24, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

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Hi,

here is the source for my edit on Megalyn

Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).http://www.playbill.com/article/stockard-channing-and-hugh-dancy-take-the-stage-in-apologia-off-broadwayCite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).

I also attended the play

Thanks,

Nicole16:32, 19 March 2019 (UTC)16:32, 19 March 2019 (UTC)16:32, 19 March 2019 (UTC)~

Hi

Hey Cassiopeia, the Jorge Masvidal page is protected and I cannot edit it, but Jorge is now ranked #3 in the welterweight rankings. You can search it in rankingsmma.com, thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.11.44.10 (talk) 10:43, March 19, 2019 (UTC)

Hi
Hi

Draft:Alexandru Bucur

Hello. I have updated this article. Please move it back to mainspace. Thank you. (Gabinho>:) 08:48, 20 March 2019 (UTC))

Hi

Thank you for your help and guidance! I edited the page and submitted it for review.--Alecsodian 10:35, 20 March 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alecsodian (talkcontribs)

Hi

FR30799386's User Scripts

Dear all. Recently, FR30799386 (talk) was blocked for sock puppetry. Among their projects were a number of user scripts that they left behind. I (DannyS712) have copied the scripts, and have taken over maintaining them. You currently import one or more of FR30799386's scripts, and I thought that you might want to import a maintained version. Links to each script are provided below.

If you have any questions, please reach out and talk to me. --DannyS712 (talk) 03:57, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

@
CASSIOPEIA: You currently have the line mw.loader.load('//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AFR30799386%2Fcopyvio-check.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript'); // [[User:FR30799386/copyvio-check.js] - my version of this is at User:DannyS712/copyvio-check.js --DannyS712 (talk) 05:49, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
@
CASSIOPEIA: I would suggest removing it, since keeping it would likely result in duplicated functioning, and who knows what other issues, but at this point the only difference is that mine includes an inline html comment referencing FR's --DannyS712 (talk) 06:00, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

1984–85 Rothmans Four-Nations Cup (Sharjah cricket)

I note you have moved the page on 1984–85 Four-Nations Cup into a draft, citing a lack of reliable, independent sources.

The original article has links to four sources: Cricket Archive,

CricInfo, a book by Bill Frindall and the relevant Wisden Cricketers' Almanack
(1986).

I had hoped that these would be sufficient sources. I would greatly appreciate your guidance as to what other sources I should add, and furthermore what process I should follow, to move this page out of draft and back into the main body of Wikipedia. Marplesmustgo (talk) 23:05, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

There appears to be a real problem here in that you have misinterpreted the four sources provided.
1) The “one inline citation which the link leads back to the article itself” is the link at the top of the page which goes to the reference list; this is a link to a book written by Bill Frindall.
2) The second source appears to be to http://cricketarchive.com/subscribe which you claim makes no mention of this tournament, but the link is in fact to https://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Events/2/Rothmans_Four-Nations_Cup_1984-85.html which does.
3) The third source (http://www.espncricinfo.com/c/engine/series/60851.html) you claim is a “routine report” but a routine report is still a relevant source.
4) You call this source, source #4 (http://www.espncricinfo.com/wisdenalmanack/content/story/150564.html) good.
This is still four relevant sources. Marplesmustgo (talk) 23:53, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
Marplesmustgo, See below
  1. Pls rework on the link on ref one instead of link back to the article itself. Do note the section of the book ( as well as all other sources) need to talk "directly' about the subject in depth and in length to qualify as a source and not merely passing mentioned.
  2. Source need subcription - for such can verify content claimed as per source
  3. Routine report can use to contribute to the notability of the subject, just merely demonstrate they existed
  4. this is good.
You need at least 2 more independent, reliable sources and pls re-read the type of sources and what guidelines as I have mentioned on my previous message above. click on the blue highlighted text for further detail info. thank you and let me know what else I could help.
In response to your arrogant comment on my talkpage let's have a go at this:

(1) You claim to have knowledge of cricket but do not seem to understand a book by Bill Frindall, the Bearded Wonder, is clearly an independent and reliable source. You seem to reject this source because the link I provide in this article is "a link back to the article itself". It is not a link back to the article except insofar as it is a link to the bibliography. The Frindall book is clearly a link to an independent source - indeed the Frindall book on ODIs is *the* standard source on ODIs before 1997. (2) The link is to CricketArchive which you appear to need a subscription to. This does not make the source an illegitimate source. You can avoid the paywall by using archive.org Even if you do not avoid the paywall a source is a source. (3) Cricinfo is not a "routine report", it is a plain independent source for this. (4) The source given is a literal lifting of the relevant Wisden. on the subject.

All four of these are plain independent & separate sources and nothing more is needed - as proved by those administrators who have taken the article back out of draft into Wikipedia. In future I do not want you trying to veto articles I create on ODIs just because you do not have access to the standard sources on the subject. Any more of this and I will report you as a disruptive user.Marplesmustgo (talk) 23:44, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello! References added to these articles.--Oleg Bor (talk) 08:06, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi
WP:PROVEIT
. You are welcome to add them back provided they are supported by independent, reliable source. I have also added "Referenes" section with reflist tag. Pls do not put references in External link section.
I have not reviewed


Hello! I have add the source of informations on the page. In fact, everything can be found in Official Website. I was a student of the school and I ensure that all I have written are true and objective. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HenryZhang (talkcontribs) 16:13, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Video tutorial "Referencing with VisualEditor" – newsletter issue 2 short version

 Video tutorial "Referencing with VisualEditor" – newsletter issue 2

Hi! The full version of this newsletter issue has a lot of information. I am sending a short version to talk pages.

The most important information to know is that draft 2 is finished, that the single long script has been divided into many smaller scripts, and that portions of the script have been prioritized for production.

Due to budget constraints, not all scripts can be produced within the scope of the current pilot grant, but the other scripts will remain available for potential future production. (This project feels somewhat like doing a vehicle repair when the mechanic starts to work on the engine, and once the mechanic gets under the engine and starts to work, they discover that accomplishing their objective requires twice as much time as they first had estimated.) However, nothing is lost, so do not fear. Overall, my assessment (me being User:Pine) is that this project is producing a lot of good output and is generally a valuable pilot project.

For more information, including my requests for your feedback, please see the full version of the newsletter.

Thanks very much. --Pine(✉) 23:02, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

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Re : March 2019

Hey, i'm so sorry, i've seen that people vandalize (?) After page. So i would to help and modificate correctly. But i'm french and i'm a little bit lost on english wikipedia. I wish i could help because people are stupid sometimes when they modificate something. :( I'm so sorry. Datsofelija (talk) 09:39, 25 March 2019 (UTC)datsofelija

A kitten for you!

i'm sorry

Datsofelija (talk) 09:39, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

18:04, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Angellore new album news source

Dear Cassiopea, your work on wiki articles credibility checking is really important and much appreciated. It's just the very first time I've ever had any source credibility issues with posting a tiny update about a doom metal band known by very few people, especially considering that I mentioned the source (the band's Facebook page) in the comment to the article update. Here you go, the link to the source https://www.facebook.com/AngelloreDoom/posts/2034522126631986?__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARDNxetIRjDUHQSsrAtHcjiSS4eGRv0PhWuu_mE36CK-A9A2cgMczBqVqHKZPKGLuOApfAXKsfoFjeFRVZtKeCmzWRyXdxw1sU-Po_bwC6xKiZTjr4-1GY9CY5g0NwcLygnExELgYjBDe5Fmm5jGx7VHS3DQ99EkrEoEzmDqGx4KFCLJehdMKLpdeHh0jC1F2ThDJsuEJs24x9OnTUhzfU5LSxS51tIqm87SVZLK3Q4feK9avyabYnRQfrn611sRsBoXssTaFaMfNmbYdQetq5GuzpWw5BOLu8k6nbf5OtNlBA5lgCVMqqFd0q70-DnU-poMn5rGk_mlTmubogbyZA&__tn__=-R

Could you please recover that update I made? Your articles update credibility checking effort is vital for Wiki, but this particular case is just so tiny and insignificant so it's not really worth your time :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.216.43.5 (talk) 15:39, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

@

Huawei P30

By the way, did you realize that you reinstated refspam? ViperSnake151  Talk  15:58, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Ross bagley editing

I found the info on wikinetworth.com Cbarker131982 (talk) 16:06, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Olav Thon - Removal Stanhope Hotel

Hi the removal of the Stanhope Hotel on the page of Olav Thon is incorrect, it should be there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.123.11.180 (talk) 16:20, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

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Re: Huawei P30

Hi,

I can see how my edit was abrasive, but I hope you know I meant no ill will. Where it is now, other editors have agreed with me. Let me know if there are any problems or concerns. --

I’m not sure how to provide a proper citation. I am a musician in the current line up of Boiled in Lead and my name is misspelled. I corrected it by adding another “n” and also added more content. Can you allow for that change? MisterBiss (talk) 14:46, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick feedback. Are you able to send me the list of other edits I provided regarding the other musicians I play(ed) with so I don’t have to recreate it and who I should connect with to add that info? This is all new to me and I’m not so knowledgeable about this process. MisterBiss (talk) 15:03, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Just letting you know, a set index article does not require sources, as it is intended to list articles under the same name and same type (in this case, roads numbered similarly) as per

WT:SIA if there's some level of disagreement. Jalen D. Folf (talk) 02:28, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Dear Cassiopea,

I have indeed just updated the Israel Festival site. My name is Eyal Sher and I am the director of the Festival. I have included the previous information that Wikipedia had about the Festival, added some missing information to it, and expanded it as it was a very old and limited entry. Please refer to the Festival's website to confirm my identity and reliability. Can you please repost what you have removed? Thank you for your consideration.

Eyal Sher — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.109.241.96 (talk) 15:06, 29 March 2019 (UTC)


Dear Cassiopea,
I understand your view that as the Festival Director I would be considered in possible conflict of interest but this is not a business or a personal glorification case, rather a service to the community. Kindly review the essence of the text to consider its objective, informative and factual validity. What better more reliable source than the person in charge of this outfit?
Please note that whatever version you reverted to seems to be worse than the one I corrected and upgarded.
Regards, ES — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.109.241.96 (talk) 15:24, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello again,

I fully appreciate that factual validation process set forth by Wikipedia. Alas, I am one of these occasional, rather single entry contributors, so my familiarity with the procedure is null. I appreciate your offer to assist. If I can refer you once again to the festival site and in it to the dozens of articles, reviews and of course actual artistic lineup of the most recent festival as well as several others, I think that's the kind of source information that you are seeking.

Thank you again, Eyal — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.109.241.96 (talk) 16:27, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Updating the Israel Festival entry

Dear Cassiopea,

I have indeed just updated the Israel Festival site. My name is Eyal Sher and I am the director of the Festival. I have included the previous information that Wikipedia had about the Festival, added some missing information to it, and expanded it as it was a very old and limited entry. Please refer to the Festival's website to confirm my identity and reliability. Thank you for your consideration.

Eyal Sher

Dear Cassiopea,

I understand your view that as the Festival Director I would be considered in possible conflict of interest but this is not a business or a personal glorification case, rather a service to the community. Kindly review the essence of the text to consider its objective, informative and factual validity. What better more reliable source than the person in charge of this outfit?

Please note that whatever version you reverted to seems to be worse than the one I corrected and upgarded.

Regards, ES

Hello again,

I fully appreciate that factual validation process set forth by Wikipedia. Alas, I am one of these occasional, rather single entry contributors, so my familiarity with the procedure is null. I appreciate your offer to assist. If I can refer you once again to the festival site and in it to the dozens of articles, reviews and of course actual artistic lineup of the most recent festival as well as several others, I think that's the kind of source information that you are seeking.

Thank you again, Eyal — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.109.241.96 (talk) 15:48, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 March 2019

Gary Cohn (investment banker)

Hi Cassiopeia,

Thank you for your message - I made an edit to the Gary Cohn page but you reverted it for a lack of a source - which part of the change are you referring to? All the changes were based on the underlying Bloomberg article so please let me know the specific area you're concerned with - thank you!

For help, the article can be found here: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-07-24/succeeding-blankfein-at-goldman-may-prove-hurdle-too-high-for-no-2-cohn

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.112.10.83 (talk) 15:16, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Cassiopeia You quarantined the page 2019 Northern Pride RLFC season into the DRAFT workspace on 2 February 2019. I added references to the page the same day, but eight weeks have gone by and the page has not been reviewed. As the page relates to an ongoing sports competition with regular weekly updates, I wondered if you could see your way to reviewing the page and removing the DRAFT status? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocketfrog

Bradford University edit

Hello Cassiopea, Thank you for your note regarding not adding a source to the edit I made about Bradford University. Does every element of the article need a source? I was one of the first people to live in these halls so I know it's true! But I appreciate I have to prove it (and not just a picture of me and my mum on my first day in the new building right?!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Googietheegg (talkcontribs) 13:17, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Cassiopeia I've updated the Alessandro Bausani article taking into account your feedback (although the "orange" highlighting wasn't showing at my end. I've added a new section heading "influence" that provides evidence of the notability of his work. Let me know if further changes needed. I just wanted to get up an english language version of the Alessandro Bausani entry which already appears in Italian wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Udhrart1 (talkcontribs) 01:24, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Cassiopeia, Much appreciated. Logged in this time. Hopefully I am successfully signing Udhrart1 (talk) 07:10, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Hi

16:29, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

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Hi

Hi, you have been moving several football pages to the draft space. I would appreciate if you could do the same for 2019–20 Eredivisie. Personally I think it would be even better to delete all those pages. --Sb008 (talk) 10:48, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi
Hi, I understand little of your reply. If you really had a good look at the recent history, you had seen I'm one of the major contributors to the Eredivisie pages in recent years. Actually, I'm the one who corrects all the mistakes of others (in general on Sundays). So I really don't understand why you start explaining me about it being a professional league and it's history. The page as is, is a disgrace. It's full with mistakes and information which is not certain at all. Some examples:
  • The season will not start on August 9, but on August 2.
  • The KNVB publishes each season a new document with season rules. So the reference to the 18/19 season document is invalid.
  • There're are so far 2 teams listed. Ajax and PSV. For PSV it's fair to assume the coach and captain of the team will remain unchanged. On the other hand, for Ajax the odds indicate it to be far from certain.
Of course, appropriate references will occur in time. But till that time the page shouldn't be an exercise page for people who otherwise don't contribute at all to Eredivisie pages. Almost 30 edits so far and still no valid/reliable info on the page. --Sb008 (talk) 20:35, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Hi
To be honest, the article has a zero chance to be deleted, and if it gets moved to draft another one will be created at the same place in no time, and then we have issues with copyright. I would suggest if there are obvious flaws just to comment them out. For this topic, even a placeholder is better than a redlink or a redirect.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:32, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
@

@Ymblanter: This is one of the worst arguments I've ever heard. What you're basically saying is; "We don't remove crap because if we do it's most likely replaced by new crap in no time". The implication is that we no longer can trust any article on Wikipedia, since we don't know if it's there because of the "crap by crap replacement" criteria or whether it contains factual data. If we have to comment out what is incorrect or not certain, there will be little left. --Sb008 (talk) 13:28, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

That's right, we can not trust every single word on what is written on Wikipedia. I never do, I always check facts. I have seen however that you have nominated the article for deletion. Good luck with that, may be the result would be surprising for you. Or may be for me.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:35, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
@Ymblanter: I wonder why you bother to check for facts when you consider it perfectly fine to keep nonfactual information only because it will be replaced by new nonfactual info when removed. We agree that not all data can be trusted, but we differ about what to do about non factual data. You approve of it where I don't. --Sb008 (talk) 17:58, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
I do not think this is what I said. It is not ok to keep wrong info. But you refused to remove, update, or comment it out, and instead you have chosen to nominate the article for deletion, and this wrong info is going to stay there for at least a week - unless of course somebody would care to remove, update, or comment it out.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:22, 6 April 2019 (UTC)