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Thanks for the review!

Hi Cassiopeia, I appreciate your review of Findhorn Viaduct (Tomatin). If you find yourself at a loose end, there's also Findhorn Viaduct (Forres), which is awaiting review. I recently noticed that our this list was using an image of one in an entry about the other - I was so shocked that I immediately had to fix the problem! Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 20:04, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks once again! GirthSummit (blether) 17:41, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
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Wikidata weekly summary #372

Undersourced >
Draft: Kazuma Kaya

Hi. You have moved

Fédération Internationale de Gymnastique (FIG) indicates all his main results (link indicated already). But perhaps the rule needs more? This one is it enough? For his last gold medal? I may also choose French or Italian or even Japanese reliable sources, if needed. But I have not your knowledge of the rules…--Binbaksa (talk
) 18:08, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

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20:12, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Wentworth Park and other light rail stations

I really want these articles to stay published but I don’t exactly know what I need to do. Is there any chance you could explain in more depth? Specific commands and such? RidingStuff (talk) 08:47, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

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List of things named after John Horton Conway

You deleted

this page from the main body of Wikipedia. I could supply tons of references to show that these things are indeed named after Conway. But would that satisfy your criteria? Moreover, I am a bit confused. Why does this same standard not apply to other similar pages (lots of them)? For example, should we now delete List of things named after André Weil and all similar pages?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Toploftical (talkcontribs
) 01:11, July 10, 2019 (UTC)

@Toploftical, Michael Hardy, and 2601:445:437F:FE66:B414:A84E:C834:46F6: Hi All, good day and thank you for you questions.
Hi Toploftical, If you could provide sources to support what is claimed that would statisfy the Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists criteria. Once you have done that (kindly provide 3; group sources are acceptable for list articles; sources can be in any languguages]], pls click submit button and ping me and I will review and place it back to mains pace. Thank you.
Hi Michael Hard, As per
WP:NPPDRAFT
. Thank you.
Hi 2601:445:437F:FE66:B414:A84E:C834:46F6, For the stand alone list you mentioned is not adhere to the
other stuff exist
in Wikipedia. Thank you.
Cheers.
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@
CASSIOPEIA
:
I have submitted the page for review. Not sure how to ping.--Toploftical (talk) 15:30, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
@
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) 02:31, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Culture of Wellington

Thanks for that. I've read the notability guidelines and the topic does seem to be up to scratch.Leavepuckgackle1998 (talk) 05:17, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

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UFC

Hi CASSIOPEIA with Alexander Gustafsson page, I only deleted the part which said that he was #3 in the welterweight rankings which is not true, however, I didn't remove the part which said he was #6 in light heavyweight rankings. Sorry if I made any mistakes with my previous edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caselect (talkcontribs) 12:38, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

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Civilizational State / Civilisational State

Hi Cassiopeia,

May I know the reason to decline my edition of "Civilizational State" with thx. I refer to Prof. Zhang Weiwei's 3 books which written in Chinese. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bonsonso (talkcontribs) 08:33, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Regards, Bonson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bonsonso (talkcontribs) 08:32, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

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UFC on ESPN+ 13

Hi CASSIOPEIA! I realise now that results here are based on Sherdog.com. My edit of the 'method' was due to it being the result added by mmamania and mmafighting, which adjudged it to head kick and punches. However, Sherdog.com provides the official result and I stand corrected. Thank you for clarifying my mistake here. :) Tasvid Khan (talk) 05:02, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

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Newbie Alert

You rejected the content for this page and I was hoping you could help me make the necessary changes...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Robbie_Howard_(entertainer)

All I was really pointing out is Robbie Howard is an entertainer that performs as a Frank Sinatra impersonator in Las Vegas and he has been there for a very long time.

As I'm sure you know, sometimes it's difficult to find independent verification, but I figured the New York Times review of his show would verify that he's an entertainer right there.

I did a quick search for another impersonator in Las Vegas and found this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_White_(impersonator)

I can't easily see what the difference is between the article that's online for Jay White and the article that I'm trying to submit for Robbie Howard. I am indeed a newbie to Wikipedia, so I apologize in advance if I'm missing something that's very simple.

MysticKnights (talk) 08:18, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

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CASSIOPEIA

Can you help me to understand better by telling me why the Jay White article is okay but the Robbie Howard article is not?MysticKnights (talk) 08:41, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
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But that doesn't help because I don't know what I'm looking for there. Can't you simply tell me the difference between the 2 examples that I gave to you? That would help a lot. MysticKnights (talk) 09:06, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
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) 09:19, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
CASSIOPEIA
No, actually. That doesn't help. You looked at it earlier and didn't nominate it for deletion, but someone else that I was asking about it decided to mark it for deletion. If anything, it's much more complicated now.
Should this be marked for deletion...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Marino_(female_impersonator)
If not, why?
And more simply, should an entertainer that performs as a Frank Sinatra impersonator (Robbie Howard) that has worked in major Las Vegas shows for over 2 decades be listed at Wikipedia? Is that the type of information that Wikipedia wants in their directory?MysticKnights (talk) 09:29, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
CASSIOPEIA
You're telling me your short on editors and I'm trying very hard to be an editor so I can help, but I need straight answers instead of links to a long list of rules.
With that said, this question only needs a yes or no reply...
Should an entertainer that has performed in major Las Vegas shows for over 2 decades be listed at Wikipedia?
I certainly understand verification is a separate issue, but that question just needs a yes or not reply.MysticKnights (talk) 09:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
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) 10:00, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
CASSIOPEIA
, Why are you explaining links again? That wasn't what I asked about. I'm just trying to define "notable" first with the understanding that verification will be necessary.
This particular person has had "multiple notable stage performances" and according to your rules that you just listed, that I have also read before this conversation, that would make him a notable addition to Wikipedia in the same way other Las Vegas entertainers have been listed.
And for the record, it was verified by one, a Broadway Show Review in the New York Times and two, at the production company's website for Legends in Concert. A long running show in Las Vegas.
I'm seriously just trying to understand.
MysticKnights (talk) 10:20, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

MysticKnights, See below

  1. 1. Links - The 2 links is very important for any editor who want to create an article. Alhtought I have explained the info in summary of the links, it would be beneficial for you to read them so any details info I didnt mention or miss would be covered there.
  2. 2. Notability - I have explained the criteria
    WP:GNG
    (general notability) above. You could also could see the message on the grey panel atop of the draft page. At the present the subject does notto meet the notability requirements.
  3. 3.
    WP:V
    (verification): I have explained to you in the first message above. You have provided 7 sources and see the explanation below.
    1. i.
      WP:CIRCULAR
    2. ii.[2] Source from New York Time - Independent and reliable source : However, the source talk about the subject only in two sentence which does not statisfy "the source need to talk about the subject in length and in depth" criteria.
    3. iii.[3] Source from the show subject was in: This make the source not independent as the subject is associate with the source and also it just list the subject as guest actor.
    4. iv. [4] Source associated with the subject therefore the source is not independent.
    5. v.[5] same explanation as iv above.
    6. vi.[6] same explanation as iv above.
    7. vii.[7] same explanation as iv above.

As per the above, the subject is not notable as per Wikipedia guidelines. If the above is not what you asking for an explanation then pls provide specific questions. Cheers.

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References

  1. ^ "Westward Ho Hotel and Casino", Wikipedia, 2019-07-11, retrieved 2019-07-11
  2. ISSN 0362-4331
    . Retrieved 2019-07-11.
  3. ^ "Perfect Strangers Online - Episode Guide - Episode 95: Eyewitless Reports". www.perfectstrangers.tv. Retrieved 2019-07-13.
  4. ^ "Robbie Howard". Growing Pains Wiki. Retrieved 2019-07-13.
  5. ^ "Performers | Legends in Concert". www.legendsinconcert.com. Retrieved 2019-07-11.
  6. ^ "Frank Sinatra Performed by Robbie Howard | Legends in Concert". www.legendsinconcert.com. Retrieved 2019-07-11.
  7. ^ "Dean Martin by Robbie Howard | Legends in Concert". www.legendsinconcert.com. Retrieved 2019-07-11.

Review of
Syed Azhar Shah Qaiser

Hello, I recently added a new article to mainspace about an Indian scholar and writer. Would like you to review it.

Syed Azhar Shah Qaiser
— here goes the page. Thanks Aafiii (talk) 06:03, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

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Ahh! Alright.. Thanks a lot Aafiii (talk) 06:10, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
CASSIOPEIA Can you please see Abdul Qadeer Deobandi. Thanks. Aafiii (talk
) 22:56, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
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) 03:18, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Muhammad Yaqub Nanautawi and secondly he was a corrector of books at the historical Nawal Kishore Press of Lucknow. The press had published more than 6000 books from 1858-1950, although Abdul Qadeer Deobandi died in 1918, 32 years prior to 1950, but he had the chance to work on a number of books there as a corrector. I am trying to search more about him in different books. Would request you guys, at least; don't propose it for deletion; you may either move it to draftspace so that I can remain working on this historical notable scholar. Thank you! Aafiii (talk
) 05:03, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
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CASSIOPEIA, Hi! As said, I have already removed the copyright infringement edits in the page. You can check out the same. Thanks for the suggestion, that issue of notability can be solved out; I would try the same. Aafiii (talk
) 05:22, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
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15:29, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #373

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Requesting CVU course

@

CASSIOPEIA:Sir,I am Keen to get course on Countering Vandalism by you. If possible please accept my request. Thankyou IRIEN✓ (aka MAh'ia
)🙏 12:12, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Manupriy Ahluwalia Greetings. Thank you for interested in counter vandalism. Pls have a look the "Goals" and "Syllabus" sections below to understand the requirements needed at the end of the course in order to graduate from CVSCHOOL.

Goals

If you're new and/or inexperienced, before embarking on a Counter-Vandalism training programme, you should be able to demonstrate that you have already mastered the basic principles of editing the encyclopedia and contributed at least 200 edits to

MAINSPACE
. If you have previously been warned or requested to follow guidelines, you should have demonstrated that you have addressed these issues.

When you have shown through training that you have mastered the principles of Counter-Vandalism and can apply them with accuracy, and can communicate correctly and effectively with new users of all kinds you may be able to apply for permission to use restricted tools, such as, for example

user page
.

Syllabus

Competency Fail Pass
Knowledge and Understanding of Concepts

Able to correctly define and describe:

  • How to identify
    vandalism
  • The importance of
    assuming good faith
  • Differentiate between vandalism and good faith edits
  • The purpose and correct use of
    warning templates
  • The best way of dealing with
    trolls
  • Cannot describe these concepts at a comprehensible level.
  • Unable to differentiate the difference between vandalism and good faith edits
  • Does not understand the key purpose of reverting vandalism
  • Can concisely and elaborately describe each of these concepts.
  • Can describe the proper use of warning templates and how to correctly make an AIV submission.
Critical Thinking

Able to review historical reversions and identify whether such reversion were correctly categorized

Correctly assessed fewer than 85% of the examples provided by their instructor. Correctly assessed at least 85% of the examples provided by their instructor.
Communication

Able to effectively communicate with other editors regarding reversions

Communicates inconsistently with editors via talk page comments or in response to editors who question or challenge their reversions. Communicates in a polite and professional manner and avoids
biting
other editors and harsh comments.
Application

Effectively applies the concepts and tools of vandalism fighting in a productive and proficient manner.

  • Cannot consistently revert vandalized pages correctly.
  • Is inconsistent in use of warning on user talk pages or uses incorrect warning templates
  • Has reverted fewer than 50 instances of vandalism in the two weeks prior to graduation – or – has reverted more than 50 instances of vandalism with a high degree of incorrect reversions.
  • Demonstrates proficiency in performing reversions, either manually or with a tool (Twinkle, etc.).
  • Consistently leaves the correct messages on vandal’s talk page explaining the reversion, and is able to further explain the vandal their reasoning behind the reversion if prompted.
  • Has accurately reverted at least 50 instances of vandalism in the two weeks prior to graduation.

Please note that there are many editors who were interested in counter vandalism course and abundant the program mid way due to lack of anticipation of the amount of efforts/time needed in reading the program material, doing assigned "homework" and exams requirements . The program has no timeline set, as the editor would progress through the course work at their own time. Generally, it would take an editor 1.5-2 months to finish the course. So do prepare yourself for lots of reading and homework if you intend to proceed with the program and do let me know the reason for interested in this program. Cheers.

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