User talk:Cmglee

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:The main building of the Baltic Exchange after its completion in 1903.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Ixfd64 (talk) 19:20, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again Cmglee. I noticed that there are six articles where you changed the link of the STL files to point to a third-party website. Is this still necessary? The viewer is currently working and I don't notice any rendering differences. Opencooper (talk) 04:18, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Opencooper: I respectfully disagree that the viewer is working. It has a bad flickering effect on Firefox similar to z-fighting (but not due to coincident planes), such as http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hollow_face_illusion.stl#/media/File:Hollow_face_illusion.stl and especially http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Szilassi_polyhedron.stl#/media/File:Szilassi_polyhedron.stl . Until this can be fixed, I think readers would much prefer the viewstl viewer, which also allows different shading modes and colour. Cheers, cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 09:20, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, sorry, I was only looking at File:De_bruijn_torus_3x3.stl. I don't notice anything that stands out at the hollow face file on Firefox (the shading makes it nicer), but it's very clear that the Szilassi polyhedron has rendering issues at the edges. I can see why you made the changes now.

One problem might be though that users normally expect clicking a file to open the MediaViewer. Going to a third-party site might surprise many, and they would miss out on learning that you created these files and released them under an open license.

I vaguely remember on your interactive SVGs that you included a link in parenthesis at the end of the caption. Would that approach work here? Opencooper (talk) 10:14, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You've a fair point. I used a link in parenthesis before I discovered the thumbnail link parameter.

We could have a template to add the link to viewstl at the end of the caption. cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 16:20, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A template might be overkill since it's only six files :p. But if you're fine with it I could make the change, including a comment pointing out it's there for the rendering issues. Opencooper (talk) 03:44, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've done one as per http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=De_Bruijn_torus&diff=prev&oldid=1209296659 . Any thoughts? cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 06:10, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good! Opencooper (talk) 08:31, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cmglee: Hello! I replied to your question on Meta but just in case you didn't get the notification: Yes 11th March meetup is confirmed for a WikiGap event. Please message me on Discord to the same username (ultron90) if you are interested in joining and helping out with organizing the event. We would highly appreciate your attendance. Looking forward to meeting you. Ultron90 (talk) 00:28, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. I'll reply on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ultron90#Penang_meetup_5

Regards, cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 15:01, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, thanks! I'm very impressed. I added the {{diagram requested}} template and figured it would hang around for a few years, maybe somebody would discuss what it should look like, and then not much would happen. I had no conception that somebody might draft, execute, and post a diagram in less than a week! Nice job and thank you (and Anasofiapaixao commons:User:Dnu72 for the supporting images)! jhawkinson (talk) 13:03, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jhawkinson: Thanks and my pleasure! I came across the article on Category:Wikipedia_requested_diagram_images and the topic is one I've some interest in, so I decided to illustrate it. Do you have any comments about the image itself? Cheers, cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 14:23, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CmgleeI do have some thoughts on the image; is this the right forum, though? Basically, I think it is a little bit hard to read because of overlapping items. If you're a machinist or someone else quite familiar with calipers and micrometers, it's pretty easy to read and understand. But if you're a lay person trying to understand what Abbe error is, you're going to get very confused very fast. Some quick thoughts:

• Don't overlap the text "Measurement axis" with the micrometer. Move the text down and use a pointed callout arrow, or move the text to the left or right of the instrument.
• Dim/mute/grey out the details of the micrometer and the caliper, i.e. the tick marks and the numbers. Those are (I think) not particularly helpful for the lay person in understanding the instrument, and they help make it clear that the measurement axis is what we want to talk about. (It seems like it is necessary for the measurement axis line to be illustrated in a way that overlaps the instrument, since that's what it is).
• Consider extending the measurement axis lines further left/right beyond the bounds of the instruments (technically they already do that, but they could extend rather further).
• The h, θ, ε triangle is far too small. I'm not sure how best to fix that. One would be to have a zoom rectangle that blows up only that portion of the graphic. Another would be to swap the caliper and the micrometer such that the caliper was on the bottom, and then extend the triangle further down so that it is larger; this approach may have problems.
• There is an open shape created by the the h line, the ε, and the slanted right edge of the moving jaw, and all of them have a dotted line. I do not understand what this dotted line is indicating, and that is confusing to me. Actually, I'm not sure why there are two lines on the right edge of that jaw. One is the jaw itself and one is something else, and I do not know which is which or what.
• Usually, angles are marked within the angle with a ∡ symbol inside the triangle. There isn't space to do that here, so the θ is marked outside of the angle. That is confusing, and I'm not sure that reasonable person who did not know what θ was here would correctly identify it.

The reason I suggested initially in the es that "probably more than one" diagram might be necessary, is that I think it's very helpful to have this kind of diagram with a caliper and a micrometer, but I also think there should be another diagram that is more accessible to people not familiar with those tools. I am…not quite sure what a good example might be, though, I have not given this sufficent thought.

Thanks. Sorry if this is more than you bargained for. jhawkinson (talk) 20:06, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clear feedback. I'll see what I can do. cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 03:22, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Would it make sense to have this discussion on the article's talk page before you do too much work? jhawkinson (talk) 23:48, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'll copy your comments to talk:Abbe error. Let's continue there. Cheers, cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 02:30, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]