User talk:Cowlibob/Archive 2

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2015 !!!

Hello Cowlibob, May you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New year 2015. Happy editing, Sock (tock talk) 18:04, 19 December 2014 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2015!!!

Hello Cowlibob, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2015. Happy editing, Skr15081997 (talk) 10:07, 20 December 2014 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.

I'd agree with the statement of 70 years after death for his UK works, but for his 1940 and onward US works, there are various ways to get PD images. I see there are quite a few film trailers with screenshots in his article. Many times the film trailers were sent out to publicize the film without copyright notices in them. Those without notices can be used as PD screenshots, but you'll need to view the trailers either at IMDB or TCM to make sure there's no copyright notice in them. Recently we had some Bogart-Bacall trailers with screenshots at Commons where the copy of the trailer (at Internet Archive) had no copyright notice. Both IMDB and TCM copies did and of course, the screenshots had to go.

If the trailer has a notice, you can check UPenn for motion picture renewals. The years 27 and 28 after production need to be looked at because sometimes people renewed things early. Then there's copyright.gov to check for renewals which may have taken place from 1977 on.

Another way around is to look for material related to the film such as posters, lobby cards and marked and dated stills which don't have copyright notices on them. There are plenty of stills on eBay and other places on the internet but far too many have no dating or information about who produced the image. Quite a few of the film companies started copyright marking their posters in the 1930s but some didn't do the same for lobby cards until the 1940s. If you can get hold of lobby cards with no copyright marks, most of them contain at least one good still. The still can be edited from the card and greyscaled if necessary. This is the unmarked lobby card and this is the still that came out of it. When a film is still under copyright, this is a way to get PD stills. ;)

Yet another way to get photos is to search a place like Lantern because many of their old film magazines carry photos which can be used because the copyrights to the magazines weren't renewed. Many of the scans come from the US Copyright Office--they're scans of the copies of the magazines and books which were submitted at the time of original copyright. At times, you're able to match a better quality still to the photo in the magazine or book. Another is to find photos in ads for the films which don't have copyright notices. This came from a non-copyrighted ad for Grand Hotel; a larger and better quality copy of the photo was used. I hope this has helped and that if you have more questions, you'll let me know; I'll be glad to help in any way I can. :) We hope (talk) 00:25, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

@We hope: Thanks for the prompt reply! It was really useful and detailed. I will let you know if I have more questions. Hope you have a merry christmas and a happy new year!! Cowlibob (talk) 19:25, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi, could you please have a look at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Pakistan women Test cricketers/archive1 when you get some free time? Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, --Khadar Khani (talk) 00:05, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

		Happy New Year !!!
		Happy New Year, whether it be someone with whom you had disagreements in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Share the good feelings. - MQS

Happy New Year!

Cowlibob,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Snuggums (talk / edits) 06:19, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

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Harrias ^talk 00:02, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Would you care to expand on how you came to the view that the addition of an external weblink re 1A0C to the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta page "did not appear constructive"?

A little bit of background behind my decision to include the link; there are about 3 million radio amateurs Worldwide (a significant global audience). One very popular activity amongst this global community is two way communication with amateur radio stations located in different "countries" (the definition of a qualifying "country" for this purpose can be seen at http://www.arrl.org/dxcc-rules). Under these criteria, the Sovereign Order of Malta is in fact considered a country; furthermore, it is a "rare" country i.e. one that is difficult to achieve a confirmed two way contact with. 1A0C that operates from the Sovereign Order of Malta location in Rome is pretty much the only station that operates from there and therefore is of significant interest to the community of 3 million radio amateurs around the World, many of whom would search on Wikipedia using the term "Sovereign Order of Malta"...

You might consider the inclusion of this link as a bit too "specialised" or "niche" perhaps? Well, part of what makes an enclycopedia useful, interesting and inclusive is in expanding our knowledge and horizons in this case that there are activities going on in the global community (i.e. amateur radio in this case) that are not "mainstream" but nonetheless just as worthy of exposure and consideration. In my view, the inlcusion of the 1A0C link added to the richness of the Sovereign Order of Malta page, contributed to all the aforementioned goals and I believe conformed to Wikipedia's Policies and Guidelines.

I am of course happy to be corrected & look forward to your perspective

Ei4hq (talk) 09:54, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

@Ei4hq: I think you're probably right. Just want to check one thing before I revert my edits. Is the radio station affliated with the order? Cowlibob (talk) 22:53, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

@Cowlibob:

1A0C is the "The Order of Malta’s Italian Relief Corps (CISOM) Amateur Radio Station". The Order of Malta is one of the Sovereign Order of Malta's "worldwide relief corps" as described on the Sovereign Order of Malta wikipedia entry. I would therefore be satisfied the station is directly affiliated with the order as the Sovereign Order of Malta is the parent/umbrella body of the Order of Malta's Italian Relief Corps. The Order of Malta Italian Relief Corps does not have a separate Wikipedia entry, indeed a wikipedia search using the term "Order of Malta" redtirects to the Sovereign Order of Malta entry.

Ei4hq (talk) 08:42, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

@Ei4hq: I've restored your edit on the Order of Malta article and removed the message on your talkpage. Apologies for my initial revert. Cowlibob (talk) 12:47, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

@Cowlibob:

Many thanks and please don't apologise, it's all grist to the knowledge mill. A pleasure engaging with you. Ei4hq (talk) 15:29, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Cowlibob! First of all thank you for your amazing review on FLC of Vidya's accolades. Could you review this one too, if you have time of course. Looking forward to your reply.--FrankBoy _(Buzz) 22:33, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi, any chance you or

@Dr. Blofeld: I'm going to have decline that unfortunately, I've got too much right now to do on wiki and more importantly off wiki. Cowlibob (talk) 12:17, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

I'll remember that next time you take something to FLC that you're busy. Not sure how you can do all the work you do on here with featured lists and be so busy! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:47, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: Perhaps I should have worded that better. Your request has come at an unfortunate time as I'm completely winding down my time on wiki with the last project being the Julia Roberts filmography which I finished yesterday. I'll understand if you don't take part in any of my FLCs in the future. The SRK nom has still got a good chance, two supports. SNUGGUMS' points are easy to rectify. If you chase the first reviewer Dwaiyapanc that could make four and then you have three of the best FAC reviewers already involved in some way. Apologies that I couldn't help you in this endeavour but wish you well. Cowlibob (talk) 13:24, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't mind reviewing for people such as yourself, but I do think that if you expect others to review your own work on a regular basis that occasionally it's good to return the favour. Perhaps only lists interest you. Can't be helped if you're busy though. I'm sure not many people really love reviewing articles. I could have sworn I saw your comments recently on something else though, was it Krimuk's one, can't remember!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:30, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Is this an appropriate reference for Freeman's Twilight Zone role? YouTube.com. LADY LOTUS • TALK 13:40, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, this one too for his Earth Day Special role? YouTube.com. He says his name at 54:47. LADY LOTUS • TALK 14:08, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

If I can use the reference you gave me [[1]] for dates, can I use them for his roles too? LADY LOTUS • TALK 14:34, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

@Lady Lotus: Youtube is only allowed as last resort as a primary source if the video is from the official channel e.g. Music video from the official channel of the singer. I've found a source for Twilight Zone which I've added. I've also added sources for his roles. Cowlibob (talk) 18:49, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

HI there,

There has been a dispute regarding the two column format for tables in awards articles. We would appreciate your input on how to resolve this issue. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Accessibility#Awards_arranged_in_two_columns_using_tables_for_layout for details. Thanks

--Birdienest81 (talk) 09:43, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the new hook. It is better than the original one. I had thought that the Hearst one will bring more clicks to the article but your hook is much better. One minor suggestion, when using Google Book sources, keep the URL short. When I click this link Google tells me that the page 153 isn't part of the preview. But if I use this URL I can view the content of the page. Just remove everything after the page no. You can also use http://reftag.appspot.com. This time-saving tool helps in creating full citations for Google Book links. It will automatically add info such as year, author, ISBN, publisher and page no. It isn't very useful for snippets. You will have to input the page no. yourself. Thanks.--Skr15081997 (talk) 11:01, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

@Skr15081997: Thanks for that link. Will make citing eBooks much easier. I've slightly changed the hook again " first book based on the life of" to simply biography as I think most people will know what a biography is. Cowlibob (talk) 13:54, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your help on the nomination page. I have expanded the lead of

Arshad Warsi filmography. Can you take a look at it and tell me if it is good enough or not? Deepak Tijori, an article I have made major improvements to has been nominated at GAN. Abhishek Bachchan filmography has been nominated by another editor for FLC. I think you can give useful suggestions on that nom page. Thanks.--Skr15081997 (talk

) 14:31, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

@Skr15081997: I've copyedited the lead + added a missing entry. I removed the Circuit link as it just redirects to Munna Bhai the character. Find a source for his appearance as a dancer in the 1989 film. I've also added a few more cites needed in that lead. I would before you submit it for FLC, do a check through the refs to ensure that they support he starred in each film, the role he played, director, any awards he won. The refs should also be RS and should avoid self-published primary sources if a suitable secondary is available. Also ensure that the films are in order of film release dates in the filmography. Best wishes. Cowlibob (talk) 16:12, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

I have opened Wikipedia:Peer review/Akshay Kumar/archive1 and invite you to comment on how to improve the article Akshay Kumar. Thanks.--Skr15081997 (talk) 09:01, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello again,

I'm trying to explain to

--Birdienest81 (talk) 21:25, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Shouldn't neutrality guidelines mean "We are neutral, we represent everybody's opinion in a proportionate matter"? Not including one side of the opinions is actually against "us" being neutral, but more towards "history is written by the victors".

Nergaal (talk

) 01:13, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Replied on the FLC. Cowlibob (talk) 20:16, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello Cowlibob, can you please add your review here, I have shortened the lead. Thank you very much! Jim Carter 10:03, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Please re-review. Thank you. Jim Carter 09:55, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Really, I'm very happy that you helped improve that article. Your help was really very appreciated! Thank you very much! I hope the article will pass now. Should I ask Krimuk to review the list now? Jim Carter 07:04, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

@Jim Carter: Thanks for the barnstar! Be patient. FLCs can take more time (the first one I worked on took 6 weeks to be promoted). You've notified a few people now, so I would lay off a bit and see what people think thus far as people really don't appreciate it if you just message loads of people as they can perceive it as "spamming". Cowlibob (talk) 14:43, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

On 25 January 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Julia Roberts filmography, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Julia Roberts (pictured) was the first actress to earn $20 million for a film? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Julia Roberts filmography. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Harrias ^talk 13:14, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Speaking of Ms. Roberts, please see my comments at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Julia Roberts filmography/archive1 Snuggums (talk / edits) 22:10, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

I lent you support for FL promotion of Julia Roberts filmography. Would you please take a look at 77th Academy Awards for featured list consideration as well? I would appreciate the help.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 03:30, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

@Birdienest81: Thanks for the support, it got promoted today! I'll look at your list tomorrow. From first glance looks like it needs little work. Just make sure that the refs support the viewing figures and any other info on the page. Be neutral in your language used in the reviews section such as "bemoaned", "derided". Cowlibob (talk) 20:41, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

I added sources regarding presenters and performers for the 2005 Oscars.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 04:12, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

I've initiated a discussion at Talk:86th Academy Awards of how the performers table should be formatted because Atomic Meltdown and I were in a dispute resulting in warnings about being blocked. I think there should be consensus, and since you are an expert on film articles, I would like your feedback, please. I understand that you are busy, but if you do have a little time, it would help.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 19:40, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

I have opened the peer review for the film. Please do suggest any changes that I should make before I go for FAC. — Ssven2 ^{speak 2 me} 04:01, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi there, An unknown user with the IP number 81.105.122.194 keeps changing the multiple awards and nominations tables at Academy Award for Best Actor. And this list was formatted for Featured List reasons. Can you please tell him to stop?

--Birdienest81 (talk) 20:11, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Also can you close Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/77th Academy Awards/archive1 and put the featured list star?

--Birdienest81 (talk) 20:23, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

@Birdienest81: I've closed the above list and made a comment on the RFC. The issue with the IP seems to have sorted itself out. Good luck with working on the Best Actress list. I'd be willing to help on it but not until my exams are over in 4 weeks time so if you're finished before then don't worry I'll just comment at the subsequent FLC when I get back. Cowlibob (talk) 15:00, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

		Editor of the Week
		Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Wikipedia Editor Retention Project )

As most people might be aware (at least those who have noticed), I generally nominate those unsung heroes who should be admins. Most of the editor's I have nominated for EotW are now admins. Cowlibob, should be next. I have recently found this editor helping out at FLC. He has about 8K edits, an amazing 13 Featured Lists! And many DYKs. While he has 8K edits but he is here for more that 5 years now. The most amazing thing about this user: Most reviewers at FLC, points out issues in the nomination page for the nominator to fix them. But this particular reviewer instead of pointing the nominator about the issues, goes ahead and fix those issues himself. He is extremely kind towards new editors and helped many newbies to get their article to FL standard. I'm honored to nominate him for EotW. He deserves this award.

You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week:

{{subst:Wikipedia:WikiProject Editor Retention/Editor of the Week/Recipient user box}}

Cowlibob

Wikipedia:Featured Lists

Editor of the Week for the week beginning March 15, 2015

Known for his high quality DYK contributions, he is a major contributor to hundreds of articles about film, actors, etc. At FLC he actively helps new editors rather than just point to where help is. His efforts to create lists for the movie world keep Wikipedia in touch with today's movie aficionado.

Recognized for

His friendly demeanor and hard work

Notable work(s)

Has already created 5 lists this year

Nomination page

Thanks again for your efforts! Go Phightins! 18:13, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

• Thanks for all you do for the encyclopedia and its editors. . Buster Seven Talk 18:55, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
• I originally thought of awarding you a barnstar for your help in getting Abhishek Bachchan filmography to FL but later thought that you deserve something much bigger than just a simple barnstar. You really deserve it! Thanks, Jim Carter 15:45, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
• My congratulations to you! --
  ping in reply
  ) 04:10, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
• Thank you for the contributions you made that led to your being named editor of the week. Good editors like yourself are what make Wikipedia more than just another website. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 19:55, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
• The efforts of people like you are what keeps this site going, and also make it come closer to being what we all want it to be, a free encyclopedia. You've earned this, and you have our thanks for doing so. John Carter (talk) 20:09, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
• Congratulations, a very well deserved award! --MelanieN (talk) 03:24, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
• Congrats, you deserve several awards and barnstars for your great work.--Skr15081997 (talk) 07:51, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

@

Lixxx235, Dennis Brown, John Carter, MelanieN, and Skr15081997: Gosh. Thanks for the nomination, Jim Carter. This was a nice surprise to come back to! Thanks for the appreciation!! I find that the first attempt at featured list is the hardest and can be the most demoralising if it doesn't work out. I try to help out especially on things like copyediting and prose which can be an unfortunate barrier for our many editors (including myself) who have English as a second language. Thanks again! Cowlibob (talk

) 22:08, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

63rd Academy Awards

Hi there,

I see that you are busy with exams, but once you are done with them, could you look over 63rd Academy Awards regarding featured list status? I would appreciate the help.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 06:12, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

• No need to rush, I already have several supports for the list to be promoted. However, if you could, please explain to Nergaal that the ceremony lists pertainly only about the ceremony as a whole, and that definitions of individual awards (including the honorary awards) are more appropriate for the respective articles for each category?

--Birdienest81 (talk) 05:07, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Welcome back

Hi! I hope all is well. --

Krimuk|90 (talk

) 01:46, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Mouna Ragam

The article includes a statement, "The film was included in a poll conducted by CNN-IBN to determine "the most popular romantic film of all time". Is it worth keeping, or should it be removed like all the other polls you removed? Kailash29792 (talk) 10:50, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

I think that's ok to keep as that's simply stating that CNN-IBN included it in a poll so it was directly selected by them. Of course the result of the poll shouldn't be included. Cowlibob (talk) 10:56, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Talkback

Please come back to the flc page. Thanks!—

Prashant

09:35, 7 April 2015 (UTC) I have resolved your comments on the flc. When are you willing to continue?—

Prashant

17:22, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

@

Prashant!: Please be patient. I am watching that page and will return. Many noms take 4-6 weeks to get any interest so be happy that your efforts have resulted at so much attention at FLC so far. Cowlibob (talk

) 17:34, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

No worries. Thanks! At the moment, I'm just tensed about my coming exams that's it.—

Prashant

17:55, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Are you ever willing to talkback on the fl page?—

Prashant

09:05, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Why you are not replying to my posts? What I've done wrong?—

Prashant

06:16, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

I saw you removing Cosmopolitan and Filmfare awards. I want to inform you that both the awards are not polls and are distributed at their event. The winners also get their trophies. So I guess, that is not called a polls. RIght?—

Prashant

18:46, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@

Prashant!: Just because they have award ceremonies doesn't mean they are not internet polls. Look at the nomination pages for Cosmo [[2]]. The "Awards" are determined by voting online in a poll. Similarly Filmfare Glamour & Style nominations [[3]] asks you at the bottom to vote. Cowlibob (talk

) 18:56, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Teen choice Awards, People Choice Awards are also decided by public. They are voted by fans and are present in all the FLs. Don't you think?—

Prashant

19:00, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

The issue is not that they are voted by the public. Many "popular" awards exist. These two are primarily determined by internet votes. On a side note, don't you have exams to be ready for? Please try to concentrate on those as they actually matter and can decide where you end up in life rather than wikipedia articles. Cowlibob (talk) 19:12, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for List of accolades received by Argo (2012 film)

On 14 April 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article List of accolades received by Argo (2012 film), which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the 2012 political thriller Argo was only the fourth film in Academy Award history to win Best Picture without a nomination for its director? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/List of accolades received by Argo (2012 film). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:47, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Her surname

Thanks for the help! Yep it reads odd in the source. I would have thought it would say "coincidentally" but it doesn't. Can you see the source? Victuallers (talk) 14:23, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@Victuallers: Yes. I'm reading it now. I think it was simply that she went from Ms. Charlotte Richardson to Mrs. Charlotte Richardson so she never changed her name as such. Going to try to add some additional info from the source as well. Interesting story, thanks for writing the article. Cowlibob (talk) 14:31, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Amy Adams filmography

Academy Award? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Amy Adams filmography. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Thanks from me and the DYK project. Victuallers (talk) 16:17, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey! I just want to thank you for reviewing the flc, which passed yesterday. Your inputs were very helpful. Thanks again.—

Prashant

08:31, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

FLRC

Why was I notified? I didn't nominate either list, nor have I ever contributed to the pages. The users you want to notify are Spellcast (Kanye West) and Agüeybaná (U2). -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 19:12, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I misread I'll make sure to notify the right people. Cowlibob (talk) 20:29, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Filmography tables

Hey, question, per the edit on Morgan Freeman's tables and the thing you said in the peer review that title had to be first then year, where are you getting that? Because the two tables in

WP:FILMOGRAPHY are both ways, Title then Year and Year then Title. Just curious :) LADY LOTUS • TALK