User talk:Dullb0yj4ck

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by HitroMilanese was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject

independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid

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 The comment the reviewer left was:

Does not appear to meet

WP:NMUSICIAN

.

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Hitro talk 18:50, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Thatguy1987 was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject

independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid

when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Thatguy1987 (talk) 21:04, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I really don't think that this particular rejection is appropriate. I followed the actual instructions and links specifically to search engines and sources recommended by wikipedia. I *removed* links to sources where Wikipedia threw a warning that they were not appropriate.

I also checked that the artist met the conditions. I think in fact only *one* source is required to be fully reliable and in this case the actual listing on the record label, where the albums produced under that label are in fact sufficient to justify the existence of the article. These are the rules for musicians according to Wikipedia:Notability (music) "notability for music" and note that it specifically says "at least one of the following criteria"

"Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria."

The 5th criterion is:

1. Has released two or more albums on a
   major record label
   or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable).

Frontiers Music has existed for well over 10 years and includes well-known artists in their genres like Whitesnake, Blue Öyster Cult, Def Leppard etc... Dullb0yj4ck (talk) 07:55, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your proactivity, but I would really appreciate if it you could please let another reviewer give a second opinion on this. I updated the description of the draft snippet. Reference #4 on the article really should be a sufficient reference to show that Seven Spires has 2 albums on the label Frontiers Music and thus qualifies for an article. I don't think there is a better source than the actual label itself. Note that I'm in no way affiliated with the band. Also that they have wikipedia articles in Poland and Czech republic already. Thank you!

Also, if you have trouble with any particular source - I know that some are from online music mags - and would like to reduce the content or get additional sources - let me know and we can rectify this. Dullb0yj4ck (talk) 09:34, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth
  (not just passing mentions about the subject)
• reliable
• secondary
• independent
  of the subject
  

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

not clear how they pass

WP:NBAND

?

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Theroadislong (talk) 14:16, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I think they pass this requirement for Band:

5. Band requirement: Has released two or more albums on a

major record label

or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable)

Why I think they qualify:

The roster of performers of their label includes notable artists like Def Leppard: http://www.frontiers.it/artist/1719\

In the article references, I also linked to their bio on this label which I think is the best source to prove that they did release those two albums: http://www.frontiers.it/releases/?module=releases&redirect:method=main&resetGroup=1&resetColumnsVisibility=1

What would you think is a better source to prove this? I really can't think of one other than the record label... Dullb0yj4ck (talk) 08:40, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, did I make a mistake in my original citations? please take a look. I tweaked the references 4 and 5 to clearly link to each of the albums that they released on the record label (note that I'm not including their first, independently produced album) \

Thanks! Dullb0yj4ck (talk) 08:45, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok yes I agree, please re-submit and I will happily accept. Theroadislong (talk) 09:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Theroadislong (talk) 19:36, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:57, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]