User talk:Equalwidth

December 2023

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at EOKA. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, please discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively, you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. A citation had been provided for the important, potentially contentious claim. It is usually pretty clear when one is adding templates because they think a statement is disagreeable. Please be more careful about this in the future. Remsense留 08:16, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I did not see an inline citation that fits, so this was completely accidental. Equal width (C) 08:26, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It was not an accident, it was a mistake. It is fine to commit either on Wikipedia, but they are separate phenomena. Remsense留 08:32, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours to the page Luis Ignatius Peñalver y Cárdenas has an edit summary that appears to be inadequate, inaccurate, or inappropriate. The summaries are helpful to people browsing an article's history, so it is important that you use edit summaries that accurately tell other editors what you did. Feel free to use the sandbox to make test edits. This is not changing capitalist. If you're going to leave an edit summary, make sure it's accurate. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 15:43, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I meant to say that I changed a letter to a capital letter Equal width (C) Your watchlist 19:12, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

...but adding a short description is not changing a letter. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 19:16, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The previous shortdesc was imported from Wikidata. Equal width (C) Your watchlist 03:26, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Are you looking at the edit he's referring to? Your edit summary said "capitalization". Your edit objectively didn't capitalize anything. Why? Please explain what happened. Sergecross73 msg me 03:46, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It edited the Wikidata shortdesc too which was all-lowercase. Equal width (C) Your watchlist 04:49, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse host

Hi! Equalwidth, thank you for volunteering to be a host at the Teahouse. We really appreciate your willingness to help! However, we see that you are pretty new around here and have not edited very much in mainspace yet. It takes a lot of time, background knowledge and patience to answer new editors' questions effectively. So you should probably edit for a while longer before you sign up to be a host. That said, you're still very welcome to answer those questions that you can, and we hope you continue to participate and spread the word about the Teahouse to other new Wikipedians. Come back soon! Nick Moyes (talk) 20:49, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

wp:burden

You violated

wp:burden here - where the blp names in a "Current squad" section were certainly not current, rather over a decade old, and uncited to boot, so I deleted them w/an edit summary. Kindly self-revert, so as not to be in non-complaince w/wp rules. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:401C:413E:DD1A:691D (talk) 07:27, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply

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You should update the information, not blank the section. Equal width (C) Your watchlist 07:28, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No. You are emphatically wrong. The burden is not on me. Read the rule that I cited above. The burden is not on me, and if you wish to restore uncited material in any event you are "required" to add appropriate RS refs. Which you are failing to do. Please fix your - now multiple - errors. Or let's bring in an admin to address flouting of the rules. --2603:7000:2101:AA00:401C:413E:DD1A:691D (talk) 07:31, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Find the new sources. Please do not blank sections due to out-of-date info. Equal width (C) Your watchlist 07:32, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm .. there's no rule that says that. But there is the rule above that I have pointed out to you. Which you are violating. Now, multiple times. Please read it, finally. And revert yourself. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:401C:413E:DD1A:691D (talk) 07:36, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BURDEN actually disagrees with you. The burden is on you. Equal width (C) Your watchlist 07:38, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply

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Also, you are violating

WP:BLANKING. Equal width (C) Your watchlist 07:39, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply

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You don't seem to understand either rule.--2603:7000:2101:AA00:401C:413E:DD1A:691D (talk) 08:02, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are lying. You are the one not understanding either rule. Equal width (C) Your watchlist 08:05, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User:331dot and User:Sergecross73 - Perhaps you can help, as you have communicated with this editor in the past. See the discussion above. And on my talk page. He does not appear to understand the difference between wp rules, and what he would like them to be. Nor does he understand wp rules - even when cited to him (or when he cites them). Thanks. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:401C:413E:DD1A:691D (talk) 07:41, 12 December 2023 (UTC)r[reply]
He will disagree with you. Equal width (C) Your watchlist 07:42, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

THEY will disagree with you. Equal width (C) Your watchlist 07:59, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:BLANKING

doesn't refer to removing unsourced sections, but to talk page etiquette.

Your block has just been lifted, Equalwidth. I strongly urge you to some time to familiarise yourself with the guidelines. It seems you are

WP:NOTGETTINGIT and this is a sure way to get blocked again. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 08:17, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply

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The mainspace equivalent of that is also not allowed. Equal width (C) Your watchlist 08:27, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please, drop the

WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT attitude. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 08:32, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply

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I concur with

consensus. Old information that on top that is unsourced is certainly a valid reason for removal. There is no requirement that someone update such information if they don't wish to. 331dot (talk) 08:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply

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They should be updating the information instead of blanking. Equal width (C) Your watchlist 08:56, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is no requirement that anyone do that. This is a volunteer project where people may do as much as they are able to or wish to. If you would like to see updated information there, you may do so- but you aren't under any obligation to do so, either. 331dot (talk) 09:02, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Equalwidth--all 4 editors -- three editors who have left word with you in this string, and the one who has done so at the ANI that you started here -- have disagreed with you. Your misreading of the rules, and forceful disagreement to operate within them as written, has a negative effect on the editors who come into contact with you, and will serve to drive us away from contributing to the project. Will you now agree with consensus, admit that you were mistaken, and edit in accord with consensus? 2603:7000:2101:AA00:401C:413E:DD1A:691D (talk) 09:04, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've noticed that your grammar has recovered, so for that, I'll generously say yes. Equal width (C) Your watchlist 09:06, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly, then, 1) self-revert your incorrect reverts, and 2) indicate at the ANI that you opened that I did not lie (as you accused me of doing above), apologize for your criticism of my intelligence at the ANI, and indicate there that you withdraw your complaint--to save people time, and to save you the further bother of more people piling on. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:401C:413E:DD1A:691D (talk) 09:09, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) And in the future, while I don't understand frankly what your difficulty was here, if another editor disagrees with you, please try harder to understand why that is. Please don't assert "rules" that are not at all wp rules - but just figments of your imagination as to what a rule might look like if you were to write one. And please understand that given all that I see above this incident on your talk page, and the number of upset editors who now watch it, further behavior of this sort may perhaps lead an admin to think that much as they would like to encourage editors (even ones like you, who are not new) to edit properly, at times the cost of doing so would be too much - in that this sort of behavior drives away from the project editors who are editing within its rules. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:401C:413E:DD1A:691D (talk) 09:15, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I do not have enough time. Equal width (C) Your watchlist 09:12, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you truly wish to be a collegial, contributing member of this community, operating within its rules, I assume that you will revert your improper edits - which you now admit were improper. Fixing the articles you have marred. And that you will make the appropriate notice at the ANI. Saving the community further wasted time on this. Certainly as item #1 on your to do list. Before you make any further WP edits. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:401C:413E:DD1A:691D (talk) 09:19, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Making snarky comments about grammar is unnecessarily uncivil. Like 331dot said, this is a volunteer project. To be

WP:CIVIL is a requirement. Wikipedia might not be the place for you. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 09:25, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply

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The above is such a disappointing exchange for someone who just came off a week-long block for similar arrogant,

WP:IDHT-style behaviours. Please consider this a final opportunity to alter the way you interact with other editors, and how to show humility when you are mistaken. There is no issue with making small mistakes as you learn Wikipedia policies & procedures as a new editor (which you very much are), but there is far less tolerance for arrogantly ignoring others' advice and being belligerent. I don't know how much more explicit I can be than this. Daniel (talk) 10:36, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply

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I just don’t have enough time. Please revert those changes I have made. Equal width (C) Your watchlist 11:51, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

I cannot believe that, after all the prior warnings, a block, and being made very clear that you're on your final chance, that you think that the above section was appropriate. That was an absolutely terrible interpretation of BLANKING. I warned you to away from giving bogus warnings/advice and just do simple editing. You've again done the opposite. And again gone on to disrupt the community with your arrogance on policy you clearly do not understand, and refuse to take the time to understand.

Theres's simply no way you're ready to edit a website like Wikipedia. You are blocked indefinitely. At the point, the only thing that would convince me of an unblock would be the

WP:STANDARDOFFER. Sergecross73 msg me 12:03, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply

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