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Aoba47: Thank you for your message! Your comments brightened my day. One of the most pleasant rewards of writing The Great Gatsby article has been encountering so many Wikipedians who likewise treasure Fitzgerald's novel. I think the final paragraphs of the novel are among the most beautiful and inspiring in all of English literature. Whenever I tire of working on the article, I re-read those paragraphs and feel rejuvenated. I do hope you participate in the FAC review at some point as I would love to hear your feedback, no matter how minor! — Flask (talk) 05:34, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply

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• Thank you for your response. I completely agree with you about the final paragraphs of the novel. It is simply beautiful and makes me want re-read the book again to get inspired all over again. Best of luck with the FAC!
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Congratulations, Flask! The article you nominated, The Great Gatsby, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Gog the Mild (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

		The Featured Article Medal
		By the authority vested in me by myself it gives me great pleasure to present you with this special, very exclusive award created just for we few, we happy few, this band of brothers, who have shed sweat, tears and probably blood, in order to be able to proudly claim "I too have taken an article to Featured status". Gog the Mild (talk) 13:45, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild: Thank you! I am very impressed that you are able to juggle concurrently so many featured article reviews on a daily basis. You must have an amazing work ethnic. — Flask (talk) 15:48, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

	The Million Award
	For your contributions to bring The Great Gatsby (estimated annual readership: 1,700,000) to Featured Article status, I hereby present you the Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! — ImaginesTigers (talk∙contribs) 19:44, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations on a huge promotion, Flask. Diligent and terrific work—you're a tremendous asset to the site. — ImaginesTigers (talk∙contribs) 19:44, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article F. Scott Fitzgerald has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Best of luck with the FA if you decide to move forward.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 12:53, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Twofingered Typist: Thank you so much! Your copyedits are always superb, and you greatly improved the flow of the article. Thanks again. — Flask (talk) 16:43, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Flask: You're very welcome. The article was in excellent shape before I started. What a tragic waste of talent losing him so early in life! Twofingered Typist (talk) 18:13, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as

@Gog the Mild: Thank you so much! I shall review the draft blurb and watchlist the errors page as suggested. — Flask (talk) 17:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you today for the article about "the literary masterwork by writer F. Scott Fitzgerald. Nearly a hundred years after its initial publication and commercial failure, the work continues to be one of the most widely read novels of our time. It remains relevant in the United States today due to its themes of class permanence, wealth inequality, and status concerns over immigration. Since its U.S. copyright expired this year, a slew of upcoming media adaptations are reportedly planned; thus, perpetuating the novel's cultural salience in the coming years. Following a haphazard FAC nomination in 2008, this article has been greatly expanded by a number of editors including myself. In the past year alone, many of its sections have been written from scratch while other sections have been extensively revamped and meticulously sourced."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Thank you for your message! I am thrilled by The Great Gatsby article appearing on Wikipedia's front page. As a follow-up, I'm currently working on preparing the F. Scott Fitzgerald article for its FAC nomination in the next few days. Hopefully, it will gain enough interest from other editors to pass the nomination process. — Flask (talk) 09:23, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats! Just getting that article up to Good Article status was hard and you got it onto the main page! Congrats. Jason Quinn (talk) 11:41, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Jason Quinn: Thank you, Jason! Your efforts getting the article up to GA status provided a great foundation on which to build! I doubt it would have made it to FA without your earlier work. — Flask (talk) 18:18, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A bit belated, but thank you for fixing up and expanding the article I started on Cleon Throckmorton. To be honest, I mostly started writing the article because he had an unusual name that was pretty easy to Google, but he turned out to be a really interesting person. And now his article actually looks scholarly! Thanks! Brianyoumans (talk) 15:39, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Brianyoumans: Thank you for creating the article! I only discovered Cleon Throckmorton via his connection to The Krazy Kat speakeasy. He seems to have lived a colorful life and was immensely talented. I believe Joseph C. Parapone wrote a 548 page biographical dissertation about Throckmorton which might be useful in further expanding the article. — Flask (talk) 16:10, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Flask. This is a courtesy notice that the copy edit you requested for Jean Ross at the Guild of Copy Editors requests page is now complete. All feedback welcome! Cheers, Baffle☿gab 06:33, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Baffle gab1978: Thank you so much! — Flask (talk) 06:57, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply

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No problem; it's an interesting and well-researched article, and my only question is why isn't this already ranked as a Good Article? Good luck with your planned nomination. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 06:32, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Baffle gab1978:Thank you again! You did a great job with your copy edit! — Flask (talk) 07:33, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply

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Thanks for this one, Flask. I tend to agree with the criticisms, and I’m sure an FA review would be useful. I just hope someone finds the time to go through the new source material. Valetude (talk) 09:47, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! I'm new to Wikipedia and I have been working on my first article, Alabama literature. In it, I discuss some representations of Zelda Fitzgerald in contemporary literature, and I saw that you had edited her page recently and that you clearly love The Great Gatsby a lot (so do I! My copy is extremely worn). I was wondering if you would take a look at my article and give me any advice that you have? Thank you! CatVallejo (talk) 09:18, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Therese Anne Fowler's fictional work Z: A Novel of Zelda Fitzgerald. Upon its release in 1932, literary critics dismissed Zelda's novel, but later critics and scholars have become more receptive to the work over time. If you need a good source for citations about Save Me the Waltz, I would suggest Nancy Milford's 1970 biography Zelda. Although the biography is dated and several claims have been disproved (such as Scott rewriting Zelda's novel before its publication), Milford's work nonetheless remains the authoritative biography about Zelda and her life. — Flask (talk) 18:44, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply

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Thank you so much @Flask! This is incredibly helpful. I'm so aware that I have only scratched the surface on this topic, so thank you for pointing me in the direction of this, I almost can't believe that I overlooked Zelda's own works. I will get to work adding this! Again, thank you! CatVallejo (talk) 05:11, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Good afternoon to you, from London, England.

I am an occasional editor who originally subscribed to Wikipedia about twenty years ago, and every now and then I try to dig out the truth in our world of fairy stories, though it's an uphill struggle with the player piano, which is my life's work, and I sometimes wonder whether it would be better just to let ignorance take its course. I have been checking up on the VIPs who were supposed to have been at Paul Whiteman's Aeolian Hall concert, and I would guess that most of them weren't there at all. Probably Paul Whiteman knowingly lied about them, at a time when it would not have been easy to disprove him, in order to talk up the concert, and to guarantee himself a series of fat paychecks over the following decades.

Rachmaninoff was the first one who set me thinking, because he was demonstrably in Kansas City on the same day. Since then I have found that Sousa was in Pensacola FL, Kreisler was in Birmingham AL, Heifetz was at the University of Champagne-Urbana IL, Stokowski was in Washington DC, Mary Garden was in Cleveland OH, and John McCormack was on his way between Waco TX and Los Angeles CA. And Stravinsky (who probably wasn't even in the list of patrons), was at home in Biarritz, France, and he didn't even travel to the USA until January 1925. As you can imagine, I'm downloading corroborative concert advertisements and reviews for all of these innocenti, and I'm working on the others who were named by Whiteman or his press agency.

The question is, what do I do with this knowledge, and if I do decide to re-edit the Wikipedia page, how do I go about it without my edits being repeatedly taken down? People need their demi-gods in our increasingly dark world, and I don't particularly want to depress Gershwin fans. But, on the other hand, both the Wikipedia article and the community of Gershwin musicologists have got it very wrong, and in many cases over several decades, and my mother always taught me to speak the truth.

There is no point in my writing to established Gershwin scholars, because they will have their own reputations to protect. But you left a sensible comment after I first flagged Rachmaninoff, so you seem like someone who might have some experienced advice to give. I'd be really grateful for your comments.

Best wishes,

Rex Lawson Pianola (talk) 12:39, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Pianola:

Thank you for your message. It does seem likely that future editors of the Rhapsody in Blue article will continue in good faith to re-add the erroneous information about the attendance of Rachmaninoff, Sousa, Stokowski, etc.

I suggest inserting a new paragraph in the "Premiere" section and using the existing sentence "Many influential figures of the era were present, including" as the opening sentence for this new addition. After listing the individuals who verifiably attended, you can pivot to say that — contrary to popular myth — Rachmaninoff, Sousa, and Stokowski were not present. So long as there is a published document (i.e., a diary, a newspaper article, a statement in a reputable biography, etc.) confirming the presence of these persons somewhere else which can be used as a citation for each case, it will be difficult for less knowledgeable editors to remove the information.

Based on my brief research into the concert, Carl Van Vechten, Marguerite d'Alvarez, and Victor Herbert were present but most of the other famous names were not in attendance. And, yes, it's amazing how quickly myth becomes accepted as fact. Having dealt with numerous myths on the Zelda Fitzgerald article, it does feel like an uphill battle to challenge popular misconceptions and sometimes one begins to agree with the quote from The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance that "when the legend becomes fact, print the legend." — Flask (talk) 17:25, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Flask. Your suggestions will very likely guide me, though I shall probably take another week or two to get all the evidence together. I write the website at www.pianola.org, and I have pages abour Rachmaninoff and Stravinsky, so I might just write one about Gershwin as well, where what I say goes! I'm in the process of writing a very long article on Public Concerts with Player Pianos (of which there were thousands) for our Pianola Journal, and there aren't enough hours in the day. I'll keep you posted with regard to George. Best wishes from across the Pond. Pianola (talk) 20:25, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Flask, Yesterday I discovered your article on my father Andrew Turnbull. And was enormously grateful. I felt it should be done, but didn't feel I should be the one to do it. I took the liberty of making a few small changes/cuts where facts had been misunderstood (e.g. the Trinity College where AWT was briefly a visiting professor is in Hartford, CT). If need be, I can send you a scan of the article on AWT from The Cyclopedia of American Biography. Thank you so much again. With all good wishes, Joanne Turnbull (Zorog is my husband) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zorog (talk • contribs) 11:19, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Zorog: Hello, Joanne! Thank you for your comments, and thank you for your corrections to the Andrew Turnbull article. In the course of researching and writing the F. Scott Fitzgerald article for Wikipedia, I discovered that Fitzgerald's closest friends consistently praised your father's biography as among the most accurate, exhaustive, and well researched. Edmund Wilson described your father's biography as a vast improvement on Arthur Mizener's earlier scholarship since it provided a more nuanced depiction of the author's life. For this reason, I felt your father deserved a Wikipedia article acknowledging his esteemed position in the pantheon of notable Fitzgerald scholars.

No need to send me the scan of the article: I have access to it and other entries via the Internet Archive. I shall add more citations to the article in the coming months. Thank you again for your comments and corrections! — Flask (talk) 17:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]