User talk:Gurch/Archive 20

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I was very surprised to see blue, not red, after one of your comments. Darkspots (talk) 01:37, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

nothing to do with me Gurch (talk) 10:03, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah, but the color suits you. Even if I'm not too partial to the kittens. Darkspots (talk) 12:42, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Whaaaaat? What's wrong with the kittens?? :P delldot on a public computer talk 03:42, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Those are evil looking kittens. – 

iridescent

03:58, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

They are NOT! Well, the orange one's not. Because it's mastered the art of looking innocent. The black one's still working on that whole "covering up the fact that it wants to tear your face off" thing. delldot ∇. 01:35, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

No, they both look evil. Too much squinting on the eyes...

t·c

) 02:33, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Its just a test I'm doing at the moment. Currently, I am one of the only editors who maintains MfD, until I can get the bot working again. Too often, when editors file an MfD, they ignore the date header and put it under the current one. I've placed commented date headers there so that when someone transcludes, you might double check. We don't have to use them, but I've also been using them for a few weeks in the closed discussions section, and they seem to be working there. I'm going off line now. Later gurch. Synergy 14:17, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you take these sorts of comments, or whomever does it, but I'll simply start with you. In the new version of Huggle, I'm finding that every dialog box, when I click "cancel", it comes back up, and then if I cancel again, it comes up once more, requiring another cancel to finally quell it. miquonranger03 (talk) 21:44, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

• • Most, if not all. I remember the "message user" tool, the box asking something along the lines of "you are trying to revert to another edit from the user who is being reverted", and, if I'm not mistaken, the "edit page" tool all having this problem at one time or another.
    • It's not too much of a problem, and if it seems to be an isolated incident, don't worry about it. :D miquonranger03 (talk) 22:07, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Seeing as I'm here – I can't replicate this one. – 

iridescent

03:58, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I can actually confirm that this happens at least upon hitting "OK". Cancel I haven't tried.

t·c

) 04:07, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I'm getting this now. Must be an intermittent thing as it sometimes works fine. – 

iridescent

 20:17, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Now in addition to that, I'm getting the error message

68.83.162.220 (talk) 15:53, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

actually, i'm miquonranger03 (talk) 15:54, 13 September 2008 (UTC) (forgot to sign in)

I found

Sorry to bother you about this, but I was very interested in using Huggle (seeing as VP is now discontinued), however I have been getting a constant "Unable to login" message and I'm not entirely sure why (I posted on the feedback page about this). Also, in case you were interested, on Vista Ultimate I am getting a null argument exception (at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.FindEntry(TKey key)) when starting up version 0.8.1. I apologise again for bothering you with this but I will appreciate any help :) --RazorICE 10:16, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, everyone and their dog seems to be getting this. It will be fixed in the next version, but when that version will be available, I have no idea. In the meantime, use the previous version of Huggle, which does not have this problem -- Gurch (talk) 17:50, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, but I meant that I am getting an "Unable to login" problem with the older version, 0.7.12 (and I really want to use it xD). I'm not behind any firewalls or proxies, so I have no idea what could be causing it. Any ideas? Or is this what you were referring to? Well, thanks again :)  --RazorICE 13:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

See the discussion here:

Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback/Archive 7#Unable_to_login_with_non-unified_accounts --CanadianLinuxUser (talk

) 10:43, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I have been a Huggle user for 6 months now and I can honestly say it would be impossible to fight vandalism without it. The work you have done is appreciated by all. I just wanted to let you know. --CanadianLinuxUser (talk) 10:43, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for uploading or contributing to

Please go to

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice?  ★  Bigr Tex 01:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

It does have a fair use rationale. One simply needs to look carefully for it.

t·c

) 01:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Didn't I decline this exact same request from you last month? – 

iridescent

 01:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

[1] - different person.

t·c

) 02:30, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

These taggings are presumably down to someone using a semiautomated tool too fast without fully reading the material they're tagging, or not reading the instructions on how to use it correctly. I'm sure I've heard that somewhere else, but just where escapes me for the moment. – 

iridescent

 02:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Of course, it could also be someone who has been reviewing rationales for 18+ months, using a semiautomated tool, who while generally liberal about rationales thinks that Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline's recommendation that the rationale include "What purpose does the image serve in the article?" is important.

The fact that the word 'rationale' was nowhere on the page did make it look at first glance as if nobody had tried to create a rationale. On further review, this summary does a better job of covering the other necessary components for a rationale than most

WP:Music Samples

I've looked at in the last couple of months.

I still think that it would be good to include a rationale for how the presence of this particular bit of non-free music significantly increases readers' understanding of

* For instance, is it for identification, illustration, or commentary? How does it fulfill that role in the article?  ★  Bigr Tex

16:59, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

LOL, thanks for the laugh. Hi, Gurch. I'll have to *twinkle* you back, since I don't think Huggle works on a Mac. TravellingCari 20:47, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

indeed it is. It's also the one I'm most familiar with having lived in Japan. I think I've come to associate you, by way of discussions on Iri's talk, with the wiki-Huggle. :) TravellingCari 20:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Haven't talked to you in a while. :( How you doing? delldot ∇. 04:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

How come everytime I open Huggle, it breaks, and tells me I have to send the error report to Microsoft? Thanks, A ^{(Reply!,Contribs!)} 11:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Because it's broken -- Gurch (talk) 12:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so I definitely don't want to update from 7.12 yet, right? 128.187.0.178 (talk) 17:19, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so how do I fix it? A ^{(Reply!,Contribs!)} 19:30, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Study programming, get a job at the WMF as a software developer, and rewrite MediaWiki. The faults are down to changes in the MediaWiki software, not Huggle itself. – 

iridescent

 19:45, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Or take the slightly easier option of waiting until I fix it -- Gurch (talk) 21:44, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

In response to your latest post to my talk page: Hahaha, <3.

I downloaded the old version of Huggle like a week ago. I know it's broke, but it's still boss. You're brilliant, Gurch. Let me know when you've coded around the jacked MediaWiki changes, and I'll upgrade.

Mad luv and sniggles ;)

I just couldn't resist adding to the pile on of "Huggle" section headers! Hugs right back atcha, Gurch! Ariel♥Gold 02:29, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou for being a pleasure to work with during my time on WP, I really appreciate it. You've even got a mention on my userpage. ;) *BIG HUGS* Lradrama 07:16, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi. In reminding User talk:Jeff G. to use the shared IP clause at the end of his revert warnings, he brought to my attention that you created the template he used and to make you aware of the improper omission as well. For more informaiton you can link to his talk page. Best Regards 45Factoid44 (talk) 21:19, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm being friendly. Don't act like I'm attacking you. User talk:Jeff G.‎ told me you were the reason he didn't add it for a shared IP and to tell you. Perhaps you should add a notation for users to use that for shared IP's. I was told to tell you becuasehe used your template soI did. It's not me singling you out. Relax! 45Factoid44 (talk) 21:42, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I rolled this edit back because it appeared to be vandalism. Just thought I should let you know in case there was a reason for it. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 10:49, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I was testing what happened if you tried to edit a page longer than 2 KB on a Nokia 6500. Apparently, bad things -- Gurch (talk) 10:51, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Classic or slide? Darkspots (talk) 10:52, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Slide. Though I don't suppose that makes much difference - Gurch (talk) 10:54, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Apparently not. Darkspots (talk) 10:55, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Ah, thought it was testing of some sort. :) Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 10:56, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Hahaha Gurch, get a decent phone! Nokia = fail XD ——

talk

) 10:57, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

(unindent) I thought the software had checks to ensure that the entire text of the revision goes through before it saves it. If not, that's a bug. --MZMcBride (talk) 19:00, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

It does. The text gets truncated by the browser's input field, the submitted request is syntactically correct. So to the server, the result is indistinguishable from that produced if the browser loads the full text of the page, and the user then erases most of it before saving -- Gurch (talk) 19:09, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I have nominated

I already deleted that once. Two years ago -- Gurch (talk) 17:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm sure you have an excellent reason for undoing my recent edit to

Internal Wikipedia software, which does not meet our inclusion criteria, does not merit a mention in an unrelated article -- Gurch (talk) 10:39, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

The policy is understandable, but what does one do when one is searching for Huggle the software, and gets redirected to

otherlleft (talk

) 14:14, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Is it possible for you to release to source code so I can port it over onto MacOSX?Jab843 (talk) 04:12, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

http://code.google.com/p/huggle/source/checkout. It's .NET, though -- Gurch (talk) 10:37, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Hee hee, very funny. :P ›mysid (☎∆✎) 09:11, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Gurch!

I just wanted to take a minute to let you know how awesome you are. If you ever want to

Uh... LOL. You have read this and this, haven't you? -- Gurch (talk) 03:19, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I have seen both of those, although I admit I don't know the circumstances that led to the second one. Unless you blocked Jimbo or deleted the Main Page, my offer stands. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 03:40, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I requested it -- Gurch (talk) 13:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi, is there any chance we may update the greek vandalometer automatically with huggle??

--Dimorsitanos (talk) 20:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC) from greek wikipedia

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered,

Hi there Gurch, just a quick message, I translated the German localisation page for Huggle at Meta. Regards SoWhy 11:53, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. I saw this and I have added it into the next version of huggle. Thanks for your help :) ·Add§hore· ^Talk/_Cont 12:07, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. If you haven't seen it, portuguese is translated as well. Regards SoWhy 12:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Yep that one has already been added :) ·Add§hore· ^Talk/_Cont 12:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey gurch. I cant catch you on irc so I thought I would post this link here in case you havn't already seen it. [2] ·Add§hore· ^Talk/_Cont 15:47, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

There seems to be something building about your essay. We want to know if you consider this essay parody humor or not. If it's parody, it will be tagged as such; if not, it will be moved to a subpage of your user page for running against general consensus. you have 48 hours to contact me before a moving or tagging will take place.--Ipatrol (talk) 22:32, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

my essays are entirely serious from the perspective of whatever mental state I happen to be in when I write them :/ -- Gurch (talk) 04:41, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Gurch, I've noticed that when I welcome vandals with {{subst:welcome-anon-vandal|Article|me=WereSpielChequers}} if it doesn't work and they go on vandalising, hugglers tend to give them a level 1 warning rather than a level 2 warning. Is this because of the edit summary I use, or does Huggle not treat the welcome-anon-vandal template as a level 1 warning? ϢereSpielChequers 12:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Likely the latter, huggle doesn't use the edit summary to find warning levels.

t·c

) 14:29, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Actually it does, but it doesn't know the summary "Welcome Warning", and information derived from the summary is overridden by information derived from the page text; {{

welcome-anon-vandal}} lacked the identifying comment that most warning templates have, which Huggle uses to determine the level of a warning. I have added such a comment; once the next version of Huggle is released it will correctly interpret it as a warning -- Gurch (talk

) 18:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Gurch, as I often patrol RC looking at small edits by IPs with redlinked talkpages that is one of my favourite templates. ϢereSpielChequers 01:25, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey Gurch, long time...I have a quick Huggle question for you. Am I mistaken in believing that Huggle was only for people with access to rollback? I remember we had a discussion some months back where you said the next release (at the time) was going to require rollback access in order to operate. Has this been changed, was it never implemented, or am I just misremembering? I asked because I noticed a user without rollback rights who was using Huggle. Thanks, Metros (talk) 00:15, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

ATM Huggle requires rollback if Wikipedia:Huggle/Download is to be correct, so I'm a tad puzzled as well. Sam ^Blab 01:20, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

It works with or without rollback, but on this project is limited (unless recompiled with code changes) to users with the rollback permission -- Gurch (talk) 01:21, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind, I just noticed what I did. I was forgot to put "User:" before the user's user name in the logs. Whoops. False alarm. Thanks though! Metros (talk) 01:24, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I created a (probably stupid) logo for huggle in my free time just for the heck of it. What do you think?

I think it looks like a giant pill.

Well at least it isn't a rip-off of a KDE icon like the current one -- Gurch (talk) 21:05, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Believe it or not, the text is based off of

TNP (formerly Jonathan)

03:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

the logo looks like a rapid release capsule you take when you enter the matrix... -_- why oh why didn't I take the blue pill??!? - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ guestbook ♦ contribs} 18:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

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I have reverted a recent edit you made to the

Thanks for the amendment to my User page regarding Huggle. Can you send me the latest version of the software as the one I have been using is now out of date. Kind regards--Calabraxthis ^(talk) 14:45, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Huggle/Download -- Gurch (talk) 19:32, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which recently passed with 126 in support, 22 in opposition and 6 neutral votes. Thanks for my cute neutral vote :) • If you want to reply to this message please use my talk page as watch listing about 150 pages is a bit messy • ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 23:07, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

I have nominated

Please, see my report. I hope this could be easely solved :) Cheers.

Sorry to confuse you. Glad you and others tracked me down. Hope all is well in your world. StarM 23:38, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

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Welcome!

Hello, Gurch, and

• The five pillars of Wikipedia
• Tutorial
• How to edit a page
• How to write a great article
• Manual of Style

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a

hahaha! Nice. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 19:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

nice edit on Addshore's userpage... - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ guestbook ♦ contribs} 18:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I have to agree nice edit :P (oh wait am i meant to be saying that :O) BAD GURCH!!! [= [= ·Add§hore· ^Talk/_Cont 19:02, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

hi!thanks for creating huggle but please,could you modify it? people are "happy" when they got it and now some people are using it as a vandal tool.could you make a new version that enables the user to view the edit before reverting it?thank you--Revim (talk) 09:26, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean by "view"? It currently shows the differences between the edit and the previous revision; I'm not aware of any clearer method of showing the information -- Gurch (talk) 09:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

*snuggleglomp*

Gurch, I like your program and software, Huggle, I have seen it in action beofre, and I was impressed. Yet, I was wondering what casued be to not be on the whitelist. I never vandalized, got speedied, and such. I rollbacked myself twice. Sorry for disturbing you. Zuzzerack (talk) 03:05, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

^_^ *mega huggles back*¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 20:06, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

What's the point of providing an option for use on Meta if the vandalism rate on that project is so low? -- IRP ☎ 22:07, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

It was requested. It doesn't currently work on Meta anyway. -- Gurch (talk) 22:35, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Can you please help me to finish resolving

Talk

04:11, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I hate to be a pain, but I'd really like to get

Talk

20:41, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Can you help me or not?

Talk

18:18, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

*snuggles* delldot ∇. 06:46, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

*cuddles* delldot ∇. 03:49, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Just missed you! Come back? delldot ∇. 03:58, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I mean all these warnings. When will you ever learn ;) StarM 13:04, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Huggle is now a recognized word, no doubt thanks in part to your efforts: http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-world-europe/20081117/EU.Britain.New.Word/ –

I think that is more due to the affectionate sort oh huggle, which is something anime fans came up with, than the software -- Gurch (talk) 23:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

`twas a wee joke sir –

talk

) 05:20, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if it helps, but I first saw the word in question in print in February 1983, on a poster advertising "National Huggle Week". It was apparently an initiative to spread the happiness of Valentine's Day a little wider. Philip Trueman (talk) 11:26, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey Gurch!

If it's not too much trouble, and you get a chance, could you upload Huggle's entire project file to Google Code? Your new version has continued producing a random glitch on my system, and I think I could fix it. No one I have spoken to has been able to replicate the bug, so I think it's a problem with my hardware, unfortunately, I cannot figure out what is causing it. Thanks, J.delanoy^gabs_adds 19:14, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Er... as far as I'm aware the entire project is on Google Code. What's missing? -- Gurch (talk) 05:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

heh, nothing. I was trying to compile it in the C# environment. :/ Whoops. Sorry for bugging you. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 06:17, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Resolved

I helped J.delanoy fix the problem in IRC. 67.177.43.241 (talk) 01:52, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

O_o wasn't logged in when I replied there. Sory bout that. Vandalism Destroyer | Need to complain to me? 01:54, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi, i have been reverting changes for a while and am finding it hard to keep having to refresh the pages for recent changes.

A friend who also Patrols recent changes segestes using Huggle, in which i have since downloaded it. According to huggle i do not have the rollback permission, and yet i have been using rollback on pages.

help?

Many Thanks, Kira

You may be confusing

t·c

) 22:09, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I am writing a clone of Huggle in python (pyKDE in fact) for using it on linux. At the moment only the buttons of revert, whitelist and next-diff work, and there are a lot of things to fix/improve, but I just wanted to let you know :). The project is hosted in http://code.google.com/p/chuggle/ .

Ok. I did the changes and clarified everything. It is worth noting that I'm not using huggle's code.

talk

) 12:26, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Your merge of

Same goes for the merge of

WP:EW. There is a little discussion there but hardly what anyone could call consensus. Mangojuice^talk

14:39, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Let's not be silly. When a large number of redirects need to be fixed, it is stupid to have to do everything by hand. I believe an argument could be made that the merger without discussion was highly disruptive and unproductive edit. By extending more good faith to the user, I do not endanger myself for using rollback to fix a large quantity of redirects quickly. Jehochman ^Talk 16:04, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with Jehochman's use of the rollback tool.--

the Orphanage

16:23, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Apologies; didn't realise it was more than one revert. I assumed Gurch only redirected the one page. Sorry, my mistake. –

talk

) 17:20, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Not everything has to be based on consensus. If it were, nothing would ever get done. -- Gurch (talk) 15:44, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

However, when dealing with official Wikipedia policy,

the Orphanage

16:23, 25 November 2008 (UTC)