User talk:Haani40

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OK, thanks for the welcome message.-Haani40 (talk) 18:26, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cool down, will you? You're making a lot of fuzz about a minor issue. Invest your efforts in finding a decent book or a scholarly article which argues that the Sufi's didn't aid that much to the spread of Islam in India. And you don't have to ping me each and every time. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 10:52, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did not do anything in anger. I am a calm person by nature.-Haani40 (talk) 16:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Don't engage in this type of sneaky vandalism ever again.
  Capitals00 (talk) 16:18, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  The source does say that. I will start a discussion on the Talk page of that article now.-Haani40 (talk) 16:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I have started a discussion on the Talk page of that article now. See this.-Haani40 (talk) 17:15, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Ratnahastin: Please at least answer that question. If I have to ask for clarification the next time, where do I ask?-Haani40 (talk) 07:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Haani40! Your additions to

issues.

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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices. Our policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, please ask them here on this page, or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 19:56, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also removed content you added to Bharatiya Janata Party campaign for the 2024 Indian general election and 2024 Indian general election for similar reasons. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 20:05, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kashmir in Conflict is not a web page, it is a book. So you need to use the "cite book" template. The required fields are author, publisher, and date of publication. Access-date etc. should not be included. url-access=registration can be included if the book is not free, but needs to be borrowed. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 18:05, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A good citation is one that tells the reader everything they need to about the source, without having to click anything. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:07, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I will correct it.-Haani40 (talk) 19:31, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kautilya3: I have been using this to generate the references I cite which is why that probably happened.-Haani40 (talk) 19:41, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, if you just type a url, the tools assume that you are citing a web site, even thouh for Google Books links, they might be able to recognize the book nature of it.

In your edit, you removed the url, which you need to keep. We want to encourage the readers to look up sources, so we shound't give them a hard time! More importantly, you didn't specify the page where the supporting content is. So, please add the page number(s). This is very important.

For proper instructions, see

WP:Full citation. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:01, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply

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@Kautilya3: It took me a long time to find but I finally found this and used it.-Haani40 (talk) 22:00, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have not mentioned the url but this is the archived url.-Haani40 (talk) 22:04, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If I submit the ISBN, it gives the results correctly, using the template for citing books.-Haani40 (talk) 07:41, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that is right. Then you may need to add the url's manually when available. It is a good idea to add url's. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:38, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need dates for books. Just the year is enough. Inside the book, you only see the years printed. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:37, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The date was mentioned in the archive url, so I added it.-Haani40 (talk) 14:44, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Haani, I am afraid you are exhibiting

. Please read that essay.

The lead summarises the article and, so, it is best written by people that understand the article well and have contributed to it. New editors can of course make suggestions if there are glaring mistakes or omissions. That was the case with your suggestions for the Aksai Chin page, but it is not so for the other pages where you are trying to insert the same content.

In general, it is not healthy to always attempt to edit leads of the articles. You should be spending much more time editing the bodies of articles rather than the leads. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 09:38, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks.-Haani40 (talk) 09:48, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at

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Hi Haani, sorry if you misunderstood. You are not "forced" to comment in the ARE case. It is entirely up to you, whether you want to comment or not. Also, if you make allegations against editors, you need to provide diffs showing the behaviour you are alleging. I suggest that you withdraw your current comment and write a proper one (if at all you want to write one). -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:51, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please move your comments to your own section. You can't write in other editors' sections. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:58, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I saw you mention

for the rules you have been reading. I never knew that page even existed, and I don't find it particularly useful. All the information you need is in the Welcome message at the top of this very page. The "five pillars" page describes all the rules succinctly, and gives you links to the detailed policy pages. The rest of the Welcome message contains links to help articles. So, please look through them whenver you get a chance.

One other thing I should point out, because it is high time now! You need to start using the preview button in the editing window, to make sure that your posts are full and correct before you commit them. You are making too many edits over and over for the same post, which is mildly annoying when we look through the edit history. If you do this on peoples' user talk pages, it is even more annoying because they get a ping for every edit you make. Cheers, and all the best! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 22:12, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sourcing at Annexation of Junagadh

Howdy. Please be more careful in your sourcing. The newworldencyclopedia article you added here as a source is a clearly labeled fork of Wikipedia (they copy material directly from here and then modify slightly). It cannot be used as a reference. There's a similar problem with that Business Insider India piece you added here; the material there is generally the same as our article when it was published. The material in our article is far older, so they appear to have just copied from here. Sam Kuru (talk) 16:18, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I am new here and now that you have told me, I will follow your advice.-Haani40 (talk) 16:42, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Morbidthoughts (talk) 22:21, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Haani40, thanks for your contributions, just wanted to share a few tips,

• Its not a good idea to include a book's promotional quotes directly in the article.
• Any summary of the book has to backed by a
  WP:RS

You can use the following links to search for sources,

• books.google.com
• news.google.com
• scholar.google.com

Even Microsoft CoPilot will help when starting a new article/section.

I have cleaned up the article on RNS Singh, always maintain a objective tone and state the facts.

You can reach out to me via talk page or email (if I don't respond on time). Thanks, --TheMandarin (talk) 15:56, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks!-Haani40 (talk) 17:59, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you continue to make tendentious changes to

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I have never been blocked or topic banned before. Please give me a lighter sentence like a block of 24 hours first (like other new editors) if I continue such behaviour (but I will seek suggestions from others from now on to avoid trouble).-Haani40 (talk) 19:52, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do have following suggestions / tips.

• • On Wikipedia one may needs slow down substantially in own area of immediate interests to stay in the race.
• Voluntarily refrain from South Asian and any contentious topic editing at least for 2 months.
• My perception is you may need to work a little on comprehension.
  • Avoid reacting immediately
  • Try to see if there are more sides to any aspect before reaching to conclusion.
  • Try to study different side views than which attract you immediately.
  • Just observe discussions by others on various talk pages, RfCs, and notice boards without getting involved for some months.
  • Write down in your sandbox even before joining discussions on talk page.
  • Read and use more academic sources from Google scholar and google books.

Happy editing

Bookku (talk) 06:10, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't react immediately. I am a calm person by nature. I always provide reliable sources for my edits (at least for the last 500 edits). I have been searching and using google books, google scholar and even archive.org for reliable sources.-Haani40 (talk) 06:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I perceive either you are failing to give enough importance to cross-checking and verification of the information for accuracy and things are getting misrepresented for some reason from you.

• Wikipedia:Teahouse#WP:BLP_violation you asked some question and within 20 minutes you made this edit check next comment at Teahouse of @Cordless Larry expressing apprehension that what you are quoting may amount to misrepresentation. That means you do not wait enough after asking guidance, and may be some issue out there. Hence suggested you to voluntarily slow down on India / South Asia topics Bookku (talk) 08:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am taking suggestions from others and even avoiding any edit war. I understand South Asia related topics better. God knows what I can edit if I get topic banned from Indian subjects like an admin is threatening (see above). I will try my best to avoid getting blocked or topic banned!-Haani40 (talk) 12:29, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See after some years you will also suggest new comers not to focus on single topic but gain experience from other topics and refer them to read Wikipedia:Single-purpose account. Even before giving you advice at Teahouse I had given similar advice to some one new who is interested in middle eastern issues. Working other than polarized and contentious areas add to your experience and understanding.

Bookku (talk) 13:39, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks for the advice!-Haani40 (talk) 14:05, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Think for expanding article Dog whistle (politics) with academic references from Google books and google scholar if the topic interests you. Look for over all expansion and avoid being just India centric. Bookku (talk) 16:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Essential summary protocol

@Haani40

Hi again when you copy some thing from one Wikipedia article to another Wikipedia article you have to use following edit summary.

• Copy pasting from [[ ]]  ; Pl. see history of [[ ]] for attributions.
  • Fill article name in [[ ]] from where you are copying the content.

It is an essential copyright related protocol, not to be missed. If by mistake you have not done then make a dummy edit with above summary.

I hope above helps. Bookku (talk) 04:35, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I sure will.-Haani40 (talk) 04:52, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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No, I myself wanted to delete it.-Haani40 (talk) 12:07, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1) My perception is, though Wikipedia gets listed on google search, practically globally speaking Wikipedia largely caters to curiosity very small minority of readers. Wikipedia neither succeeds to influence masses nor to academic intelligentsia nor media. Wikipedia does not allow many content aspects like some other non-encyclopedia platforms like social media do. Hence Wikipedia is not good tool for any cause promotion. So best way is to maintain your neutrality on this platform. My perception is you can adapt to Wikipedia platform.

2) 'When in Rome, Do as the Romans Do' refers to the importance of adapting yourself to the customs of the people who are in a certain place or situation and behave like they do. So best is to read more and more help/ policy/ guideline/ essay/ discussion board pages as possible to get accustomed at Wikipedia.

Bookku (talk) 04:37, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hanni40 - you misread Editor Interaction Analyser, which showed that out of 910 edits, 303 were to pages edited by other known Souniel Yadav accounts. That is an impressive overlap.-- Toddy1 (talk) 09:04, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Toddy1: Some of the sentences I have added are well sourced, so I request you to undo the reverts of my edits. Thanks!-Haani40 (talk) 05:13, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not a sock puppet of User:Souniel Yadav but since he and his sock puppet accounts have edited thousands of articles, anyone from my City can be accused of being his sock puppet and blocked since the articles edited will overlap (since they will write whatever is India related only just like User:Souniel Yadav and his sock puppet accounts).-Haani40 (talk) 05:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Even if that SPI was mishandled, still, your own actions have destroyed your credibility. This sockpuppetry was totally unwise.
  Capitals00 (talk) 18:21, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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