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Use of dashes

You're using the wrong type of dash on the articles, as seen here, here, here, and here (and the last having unnecessary trivial detail). For these instances, the correct dash is the hyphen (also known as the minus sign, up by the zero on the keyboard). The dash you're using is the en-dash, which is just used for ranges, like a number range (e.g., 1–10). --JDC808 14:18, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stop ignoring what I've been telling you. You are using the wrong dash. If you ignore this again, you will be reported. --JDC808 11:33, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I guess we're going through this again. Nearly a year later, you are still using wrong dashes, which I do not understand. All you have to do is press one key by the 0 on your keyboard (you are making extra effort to put the en-dash, which is wrong for where you've been using it). I've had to correct this on multiple articles now and it's quite annoying. The last time, you were blocked because of your failure to communicate to resolve this. Don't ignore these messages. --JDC808 04:21, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

HOW are you still using the incorrect dashes? Makes absolutely no sense. Are you doing this on purpose or what? --JDC808 20:14, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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dash it all

There is a discussion about your editing at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive_editing_by_User:Iamveselin. To me, the problem is less about the dashes than the lack of communicating. In a collaborative project like this one, communication is essential. Please partake in this discussion and address the matter of the dashes.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 09:11, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Despite the fact that you have edited since
WP:GAB for your appeal rights.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:52, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply
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@Bbb23: This guy is at it again, intentionally changing the correct dashes to incorrect dashes across multiple articles. Currently in the midst of fixing them. --JDC808 21:31, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Largely mooted. If further discussion on this point is needed, may I suggest continuing it HERE so as to keep it all on one thread?-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:32, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with your block, Bbb23. In nearly ten years of editing, I have never once used anything other than the easiest to find keyboard horizonal line for a hyphen, an en dash, an em dash or a minus sign. Nobody has ever once criticized me for my typographic failures and nobody brought it up at my RfA. It is a typographic triviality and any editor who wants to change these little horizontal lines can do so. Using edit summaries is recommended but is not mandatory. Discussing with MOS obsessed editors who harass content creators about typographic trivialities is also not required. Please reconsider this block. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:41, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Cullen328: Maybe our keyboards are different, but the easiest sign to use on mine is the ordinary hyphen. If I want to add an em or en dash, I have to work at it. If this were an instance where the user was using hyphens instead of dashes, I could understand your point better, but they are changing hyphens to dashes and then not responding to other users' complaints. I'm hardly an MOS expert, and both as an editor and as an administrator I try to stay away from MOS disputes, which I often find lame, but in this case, there is enough disruption by the user to justify a block for failure to collaborate/communicate/respond. As for edit summaries, I of course know that edit summaries are not required. Unfortunately, many experienced users don't use them. However, here the failure to use edit summaries is just one more element of the user's failure to communicate. We have zero idea what is going through their brain.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:41, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The joke comments at ANI obscured the issue which does not concern wonkery such as distinctions between em dashes, en dashes, and minus signs. The issue is explained at #Use of dashes above with four diffs which show small edits that replace hyphens with en dashes in standard hyphenated phrases such as "two-time". That is completely wrong, not MOS wonkery. Johnuniq (talk) 07:14, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Cullen328: Your entire post contains not a single response to the reasoning given for the block. The user now has three days to realize that they can't contentiously edit while ignoring discussion. User:Bbb23 made it clear that the concern was over the conduct, not the content. Is it appropriate to ignore a good-faith user's efforts to correct your behavior? Aren't you supposed to either change (if you're wrong) or explain why you're not changing (if you're right)? 2600:1700:B7A1:9A30:1D04:95C1:5D9B:E176 (talk) 16:11, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Cullen328: Like I said in the ANI report multiple times, you were getting hung up with the dashes and overlooked the real issue that this user flat out ignored attempts of communication. The failure of communication is why this user was blocked, not because of their misuse of dashes. If you had read the entire report, you would have known that their failure to communicate was why the report was made (I actually reread the report and you never addressed this user's lack of communication and instead mocked the issue of the dashes). --JDC808 05:43, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
When evaluating how disruptive an editor's failure to communicate is, I consider it important to evaluate the substance of the issue under discussion. The body of my 9+ years of contributions to this enyclopedia shows that I consistently promote level-headed communication among editors. If this editor was failing to communicate about an issue of actual encyclopedic content, as opposed to an MOS issue, I would certainly take the communications issue much more seriously. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:03, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Is encyclopedic content more serious than MOS issues? Sure, but it really shouldn't matter what the issue is if the user flat out ignores attempts of communication and continues to make the same edits over and over and over again. --JDC808 06:23, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Your post on my User page

In regard to this post, that is the completely wrong place to post that. If you're trying to communicate with me (or any other editor for that matter), you post on the talk page, NOT the user page. Secondly, we don't attack people with the uncivility that you did in your post there. That will surely get you blocked if you want to continue that behavior (I'm actually surprised you even made a response because you've been completely silent on this issue for literally two years).

To respond to what you posted, I have no issues with what you have written on articles. What I have an issue with is your misuse of dashes, because for some god forsaken reason, you keep using the wrong dash, and it makes absolutely no sense at all why you keep doing it. You were even blocked from editing because of your failure to communicate to explain your reasoning why you continuously would make this intentional mistake. To add to that, you've actually gone through articles and intentionally changed the correct usage of a hyphen to an en-dash.

Look at this example:

  1. pay-per-view (hyphenated)
  2. pay–per–view (en-dash)
  3. pay—per—view (em-dash)

Do you see the difference? For whatever reasons, you keep doing the second one, which is absolutely wrong (the third would be even worse). An en-dash is used for ranges, like a number range (e.g., 1–10), not to hyphenate words (the em-dash is something that you can use in the place of parenthesis). This dash issue is something so easily fixed on your end that it baffles me how you continue to make this stupid mistake after literally two years. The first one is what you should be doing, and all you have to do is hit the hyphen/minus key right next to the number 0 on your keyboard (and if you're on mobile, your only option from a mobile keyboard is the regular hyphen/minus). What you're doing is intentionally hitting the en-dash from the bottom row of commands on the edit text box. Stop doing that. It's that simple. Use the hyphen/minus key on your keyboard. --JDC808 00:23, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How?

Over three years later and you are STILL using the wrong type of dash. Please explain why you do this because it makes absolutely 0 sense. I even gave you examples of how to correctly use the dash in my post above from over 2 years ago. This is absolutely baffling. JDC808 03:55, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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