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News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2021).

Administrator changes

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Boing! said Zebedee • Hiberniantears • Lear's Fool • Only • WGFinley

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AmandaNP

Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment is open that proposes a process for the community to revoke administrative permissions. This follows a 2019 RfC in favor of creating one such a policy.
• A
  subcriterion a
  , which covers immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
• A request for comment seeks to grant page movers the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target. The full proposal is at Wikipedia:Page mover/delete-redirect.
• A
  request for comment
  asks if sysops may place the General sanctions/Coronavirus disease 2019 editnotice template on pages in scope that do not have page-specific sanctions?
• There is a
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Technical news

• When blocking an IPv6 address with
  just block the /64
  range. When doing so, you can still leave a block template on the initial, single IP address' talkpage.
• When protecting a page with Twinkle, you can now add a note if doing so was in response to a request at
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  , and even link to the specific revision.
• There have been
  Pending Changes. Most problems setting protection appear to have been resolved (phab:T273317) but other issues with autoaccepting edits persist (phab:T275322
  ).

Arbitration

• By motion, the discretionary sanctions originally authorized under the GamerGate case are now authorized under a new Gender and sexuality case, with sanctions authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, any gender-related dispute or controversy and associated people. Sanctions issued under GamerGate are now considered Gender and sexuality sanctions.
• The Kurds and Kurdistan case was closed, authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for the topics of Kurds and Kurdistan, broadly construed.

Miscellaneous

• Following the 2021 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: AmandaNP, Operator873, Stanglavine, Teles, and Wiki13.

These ideas about the notability of individuals leave me baffled, since we have perfectly legitimate pages about, well, ship's cats. (I DO love cats, I have three). This was a person known through a single contemporary source. He must have been quite a relevant individual in his time, who likely held sway as feudal seigneur on several thousand people at least, and was the most distant patrilineal ancestor we can trace with any degree of certainty for VERY important people in power in centuries to come (the Luxemburgian emperors of the Holy Roman Empire). Beyond that, this man already had his page in the German Wikipedia, from which I simply translated, almost word by word, to get news of it to what I see as the "global" Wiki: the English-language one, despite being myself an Italian. Therefore, I'd ask to reconsider rejecting this out of hand: not because the article is "mine"(?), but as a historian (not a professional one, an amateur with a degree). It can be added anyway later that the article's sources are poor and could/should be better corroborated; but this is true of most of what we know, or believe to know, before the Late Middle Ages and the explosion in literacy and the use of paper. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basil II (talk • contribs) 21:45, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

the basic standard of notability arbitrary myself, but it exists to make sure that we can maintain the encyclopedia and provide an objective standard of inclusion. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 00:28, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply

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Hi, J947. Can you please change User:Suffusion of Yellow/hidetopcontrib.js to User:Markhurd/hidetopcontrib.js in both User:J947/common.js and User:J947 Public/common.js? I did not intend to maintain a fork of that script; that was only for testing purposes and I'd like to delete it. The scripts are identical except for the comments. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:36, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• @Suffusion of Yellow: sure, done for my account's common.js. I'll do it on my alt account very soon. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 21:48, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks, no hurry; I'm just in a "spring cleaning" mood. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 21:50, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I noticed that you closed an RfD relating to various versions of pi with different numbers of decimal digits, but did not remove the RfD notices on most of the redirects. Also, your speedy close rationale only related to the first redirect and not the others. Did you miss the rest of them? I removed the notices since the discussion has been closed, but thought I should let you know. Lithopsian (talk) 20:21, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• @Lithopsian: The discussion wasn't correctly formatted and I assumed that only one of the redirects had been nominated. Thanks for catching that. But my speedy close still applied to the other redirects, as that discussion showed clear consensus to keep such redirects (and the one discussed at the old RfD was the longest one of those nominated at the new RfD, so one would imagine that the consensus would be equally great or stronger for the shorter redirects). — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 20:31, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021).

Administrator changes

Alexandria • Happyme22 • RexxS

Guideline and policy news

• Following a
  subcriterion a
  has been deprecated; it covered immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
• Following a request for comment, page movers were granted the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target.

Technical news

• When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split and it might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem. (T278350)
• Code to support some very old web browsers is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers. (T277803)

Arbitration

• A
  discretionary sanctions procedure
  is open until April 25.

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Have a very happy birthday on your special day!

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NotReallySoroka: I would strongly recommend you read the guidelines on refactoring comments before continuing. Elli (talk | contribs) 00:56, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply

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I'm not going to refactor my comments.

NotReallySoroka, I recommend that you clarify what you said in subsequent comments but do not alter any existing comments. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 01:19, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply

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Thank you.

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In your final sentence of this edit, I think you might mean "yes" rather than "no"? Thryduulf (talk) 12:30, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Ah, yeah I did mean yes. Thanks for spotting that. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 20:40, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2021).

Administrator changes

Enchanter • Carlossuarez46

Interface administrator changes

Ragesoss

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, consensus was found that third party appeals are allowed but discouraged.
• Consensus was found in a previous RfC
  for a community based desysop procedure, though the procedure proposed in the 2021 RfC did not gain consensus.

Technical news

• The user group oversight will be renamed to suppress. This is for technical reasons. You can comment at T112147 if you have objections.

Arbitration

• The
  discretionary sanctions procedure
  was closed, and an initial draft based on feedback from the now closed consultation is expected to be released in early June to early July for community review.

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• @Uanfala: there were a lot of ambiguous statements in the discussion (including the close). By straight count (which is often a reasonable metric at RfD despite its failings) I thought that there were 4 people supporting deletion of Test Wikipedia and 6 supporting it to be kept in some form, so I inferred that the redirect should've been kept. I don't think that those counts are correct now anyway. (The closure I interpreted, likely wrongly, as should not exist as a mainspace disambiguation page.) I suppose I'm happy for the redirect to be deleted now as I likely misinterpreted parts of the discussion, but at the time I had thought that suppressredirect was missing the point – to be perfectly honest, I still think that to an extent: I think that a redirect to a helpful project-space disambiguation page is better than leaving readers and non-namespace-knowing new editors with these unhelpful search results, but YMMV. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 21:18, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi. My suppression of the redirect was not a mistake and Uanfala was correct that my closing statement alluded to the why. It would seem that if you disagree with a close, there are better ways to go about it. I'm not going to delete the redirect you created. I suspect someone will come along and send it to RFD again. Thank you for the ping, Uanfala. Killiondude (talk) 21:05, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • I've G7'd it. I misinterpreted parts of the discussion. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 21:35, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2021).

Administrator changes

Ashleyyoursmile • Less Unless

Husond • MattWade • MJCdetroit • Carioca • Vague Rant • Kingboyk • Thunderboltz • Gwen Gale • AniMate • SlimVirgin (deceased)

Guideline and policy news

• Consensus was reached to deprecate Wikipedia:Editor assistance.
• Following a Request for Comment the Book namespace was deprecated.

Technical news

• Wikimedia previously used the IRC network Freenode. However, due to changes over who controlled the network with reports of a forceful takeover by several ex-staff members, the Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts decided to move to the new Libera Chat network. It has been reported that Wikimedia related channels on Freenode have been forcibly taken over if they pointed members to Libera. There is a migration guide and Wikimedia discussions about this.

Arbitration

• After a
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News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

Administrator changes Trialpears AGK • Eliz81 • Mulad • ThaddeusB • Vianello • Who Lacrimosus → Ikuzaf Interface administrator changes Ragesoss

CheckUser changes AGK • DGG Oversighter changes AGK

Guideline and policy news

• WP:REFUND
  even after the namespace is removed.
• An
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Technical news

• IP addresses of unregistered users are to be hidden from everyone. There is a rough draft of how IP addresses may be shown to users who need to see them. This currently details allowing administrators, checkusers, stewards and those with a new usergroup to view the full IP address of unregistered users. Editors with at least 500 edits and an account over a year old will be able to see all but the end of the IP address in the proposal. The ability to see the IP addresses hidden behind the mask would be dependent on agreeing to not share the parts of the IP address they can see with those who do not have access to the same information. Accessing part of or the full IP address of a masked editor would also be logged. Comments on the draft are being welcomed at the talk page.

Arbitration

• The community authorised
  COVID-19 discretionary sanctions following a motion
  at a case request. Alerts given and sanctions placed under the community authorised general sanctions are now considered alerts for and sanctions under the new discretionary sanctions.

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Hello J947:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running until 31 July 2021.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is currently a backlog of over 2400 articles, so start reviewing articles. We're looking forward to your help!

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2021).

Administrator changes BusterD Kees08 • Nickshanks • Protonk • Schissel • Ultraexactzz • Wknight94

CheckUser changes TheresNoTime Oversighter changes TheresNoTime ST47

Guideline and policy news

• An
  G13
  speedy deletions.

Technical news

• Last week all wikis were very slow or not accessible for 30 minutes. This was due to server lag caused by regenerating dynamic lists on the Russian Wikinews after a large bulk import. (T287380)

Arbitration

• Following an
  requested move discussions
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• You can vote for candidates in the 2021 Board of Trustees elections from 4 August to 17 August. Four community elected seats are up for election.

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).

Administrator changes

Jake Wartenberg

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Ashleyyoursmile → Viridian Bovary

Guideline and policy news

• Feedback is requested on the Universal Code of Conduct enforcement draft by the Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2 drafting committee.
• A
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• A discussion is open to decide when, if ever, should discord logs be eligible for removal when posted onwiki (including whether to oversight them)
• A
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  has resulted in a 30 day trial of automatic semi protection for TFAs.

Technical news

• The Score extension has been re-enabled on public wikis. It has been updated, but has been placed in safe mode to address unresolved security issues. Further information on the security issues can be found on the mediawiki page.

Arbitration

• A request for comment is in progress to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the Arbitration Committee election and resolve any issues not covered by existing rules. Comments and new proposals are welcome.

Miscellaneous

• The 2021 RfA review is now open for comments.

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Hello J947,

Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here

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At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.

There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software.

Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here.

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