User talk:Ktrimi991
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About Zourafa
Hello, first of all, I'm Fertilis from Turkey, I want you to make some corrections about Zourafa Island. First of all, all Turkish words are misspelled, for example: Piri Reyes should be "Piri Reis" . Even the Turkish name of the island is written as Zurata, not Zurafa . In addition, almost all of the references you have given are taken from unilateral and non-objective sources. I can help you with references and editing... Fertilis Spes (talk) 15:16, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
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I appreciate the explanation. So much less time would be wasted if editors took the time to explain. Drmies (talk) 19:55, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
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- Years ago it was a big deal at RfA; "are you writing edit summaries?" I don't know if I was bad at it or not but I took it to heart. I just ran this, and I'm not displeased, but I ran it (never did it before) because I'm dealing with a much-criticized editor who's really into disruptive territory, and what they have is this. No wonder editors can't figure out what's going on and just get tired of it. It's particularly bad with all those IP editors that update (if that's what they do) sports articles. Now, you do that in an area that's already difficult (not zlotys or soccer), but the area you edit in, and man it's just disruptive and discourteous. Like, you want to edit war and redo the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact or the ethnic cleansing in Wolyn, but you can't write a few words to explain? The older I get the less patience I have with that. Take care, Drmies (talk) 20:10, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- Not writing an edit summary has its "benefits": some are lazy, and others want to somehow make harder for other editors to figure out disruptive changes. It is Wikipedia's software that is to blame: it should not allow edits to be saved without an edit summary with a minimum number of words (apart from cases when vandalism fighting tools like Twinkle are being used). And worse than not writing an edit summary is writing one with personal attacks, sth not uncommon in the Balkans topic area (especially the classic "Rv POV-pusher"). Not to mention the misleading edit summaries. I wonder why a good number of vandal IPs write "Fixed typo" in the edit summary. I guess dumb people like making dumb things. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 22:56, 17 September 2022 (UTC)]
- Not writing an edit summary has its "benefits": some are lazy, and others want to somehow make harder for other editors to figure out disruptive changes. It is Wikipedia's software that is to blame: it should not allow edits to be saved without an edit summary with a minimum number of words (apart from cases when vandalism fighting tools like Twinkle are being used). And worse than not writing an edit summary is writing one with personal attacks, sth not uncommon in the Balkans topic area (especially the classic "Rv POV-pusher"). Not to mention the misleading edit summaries. I wonder why a good number of vandal IPs write "Fixed typo" in the edit summary. I guess dumb people like making dumb things. Cheers,
- Years ago it was a big deal at RfA; "are you writing edit summaries?" I don't know if I was bad at it or not but I took it to heart. I just ran this, and I'm not displeased, but I ran it (never did it before) because I'm dealing with a much-criticized editor who's really into disruptive territory, and what they have is this. No wonder editors can't figure out what's going on and just get tired of it. It's particularly bad with all those IP editors that update (if that's what they do) sports articles. Now, you do that in an area that's already difficult (not zlotys or soccer), but the area you edit in, and man it's just disruptive and discourteous. Like, you want to edit war and redo the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact or the ethnic cleansing in Wolyn, but you can't write a few words to explain? The older I get the less patience I have with that. Take care, Drmies (talk) 20:10, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
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Double standards in using reference
Based on this summary [[2]] your wp:POV is far too obvious: on professor Vakalopoulos you are asking for his use of primaries and removing him on sight while on pro-Albanian politician-historian Xhufi you feel very convenient no matter that he is rejected in modern scholarship by so multiple academic institutions.Alexikoua (talk) 17:10, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- See my note on the talk page. There is an old 16th century pic of the battle of Sopot, and Mormoris and Albanians are mentioned there. No Greeks. If you find reliable sources that mentions Greek, ofc the content can be added again. On Xhufi, I have never used him as a source, and I do not like his work. If the pic was not there, I would not trust Xhufi more than Vakapoulos. I have the impression that both are partisan authors. Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:14, 18 September 2022 (UTC)]
- See my note on the talk page. There is an old 16th century pic of the battle of Sopot, and Mormoris and Albanians are mentioned there. No Greeks. If you find reliable sources that mentions Greek, ofc the content can be added again. On Xhufi, I have never used him as a source, and I do not like his work. If the pic was not there, I would not trust Xhufi more than Vakapoulos. I have the impression that both are partisan authors.
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Tagteaming
You have been accused for large scale tag teaming during a failed report you filled against me recently. Currently, it's not productive to revert warning messages that have been posted to users that have just made drive-by reverts without having the slightest knowledge on the subject. Alexikoua (talk) 18:10, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- Who "accused" me? Those who have no evidence at all. The 3RR report was not "failed", you got a warning. If you want to learn what a "failed" report is, take a look at the SPI you filed on me. Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:17, 24 September 2022 (UTC)]
- Who "accused" me? Those who have no evidence at all. The 3RR report was not "failed", you got a warning. If you want to learn what a "failed" report is, take a look at the SPI you filed on me.
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Major inconsistency in edit summaries
Here you remove [[7]] Kokolakis as "old research" in favor of supposed newer research, nevertheless here [[8]] you are in favor of Kokolakis no matter if Spiro's research is a very recent one. It appears you just prefer to push a strong national POV. Consider that this kind of aggressive language and inconsistency will lead you soon to AE.Alexikoua (talk) 19:25, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
- File an AE report whenever you wish. Spiro's Delvina claim is patent non-sense, it is not just that he disagrees with a particular author. Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:37, 15 October 2022 (UTC)]
- Btw he is Kallivretakis, not "Kokolakis". Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:44, 15 October 2022 (UTC)]
- Btw he is Kallivretakis, not "Kokolakis".
Thesprotia
Your statement "Do not template regular editors because they disagree with you." shows that you are acknowledging that the content you tried to add, is in disagreement with the other editors. Yet you avoided using the talk page [9] to discuss the matter. Why? - ❖ SilentResident ❖ (talk ✉ | contribs ✎) 19:53, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
- I have not "avoided" using the tp. I have to read walls of text, figure out the meaning of everything and then prepare my response. I reverted because removing a 2020 source to add a 1995 is not a good idea at all. Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:57, 15 October 2022 (UTC)]
- If you are referring to the reason for the expulsion rather than the demographics issue (only now I saw my revert involved that part actually), then that is another matter. It can be written "X author says Y, while Z author says W". It is easy to do, and anyone can see both POVs and evaluate by themselves which part is typical Balkan history and which is crappy simplification. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:02, 15 October 2022 (UTC)]
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- If you are referring to the reason for the expulsion rather than the demographics issue (only now I saw my revert involved that part actually), then that is another matter. It can be written "X author says Y, while Z author says W". It is easy to do, and anyone can see both POVs and evaluate by themselves which part is typical Balkan history and which is crappy simplification.
About my note
Hi Ktrimi, long time no see. I see I had a note for the Bektashi section that I would expand it, sometime, that I left five years ago. I regret to say that due to other commitments (which are still there despite me having briefly returned), I really can't see myself finding the time to do that. I do see that User:Botushali has done a great job making a new page on the section. Maybe I will add various stuff from the sources I intended to use there. Either way, great work! --Calthinus (talk) 16:41, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Cal :) No worries, I will take some interesting parts from Botushali's article and add them to that section. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:05, 16 October 2022 (UTC)]
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Hello, you must see this video to add more accurate info for Pileus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Ev-RR-wmA&t=22s HadrianusN (talk) 21:06, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
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Hello! Just wanted to inform you that this is already habitual. Editor deletes everything on h talk page so it's cumbersome to keep track. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 13:52, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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- Time has told already, methinks. SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:06, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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Macura
Why are you spreading false information about Macura being an Albanian tribe, when they are not? Cheking inf (talk) 13:48, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- Read Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:00, 8 May 2023 (UTC)]
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Myftaraj
Hello. Can you explain me the problem with Kastriot Myftaraj's source? Super Ψ Dro 17:02, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Also. You keep confusing ethnicity with identity. They are not the same. Aurel Plasari, and others, are ethnic Aromanians. That does not mean that they identify only as Aromanians or that they reject an Albanian identity. If your notion of ethnicity and identity being synonymous were true, we would 1) have an article about the Aromanians treating only a few thousand individuals not identifying as Greek, Romanian or other 2) we would not be able to refer to individuals' parents as ethnic Aromanian because we would then assume their identity (Rita Marko's case). Your interpretation is not the one used in Wikipedia. It is clearly stated at Aromanians that they're an ethnic group despite their conflicting, various identities being well-known, which is also mentioned in the article. Super Ψ Dro 17:06, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- Take a look at Kastriot Myftaraj. FYI, he is using "vlleh" as an ethnic slur. Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:12, 11 May 2023 (UTC)]
- Take a look at Kastriot Myftaraj. FYI, he is using "vlleh" as an ethnic slur.
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Hey Ktrimi991,
I know that it [1] is basically just what Alexikoua said, however, I think it would be good to wait for Alexikouas response at first. AlexBachmann (talk) 19:52, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- Having 3 name translations in the lede clutters the very first sentence of the article. However, if you and Alexikoua reach a different agreement, I will not oppose it. Hence I did stop at that point and did not implement it on other articles. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:57, 23 May 2023 (UTC)]
- I somehow have the feeling that there isn't going to be a response soon. I also haven't heard anything from Khirurg lately. AlexBachmann (talk) 14:49, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
- Having 3 name translations in the lede clutters the very first sentence of the article. However, if you and Alexikoua reach a different agreement, I will not oppose it. Hence I did stop at that point and did not implement it on other articles. Cheers,
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Greece: Place name changes
The source explains everything. I can add the explanation of the special case of Byzantine Greek, which might be forgotten today. I didn’t want to balloon the introduction. Homei (talk) 17:41, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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- "Again, the intellectuals who made up the commission assigned to impose and supervise the modification of the toponyms feared that excessive zeal might lead to the disappearance of toponyms coming down from the medieval period. That happened often as a result of over-hasty archaization. For example, the renowned Byzantine city-fortress of Monemvasia was temporarily renamed Epidaurus Limira, that is to say it was given an unknown name for which there was no authority. It was unclear whether only names that recalled the foreign conquerors ought to be changed, or if the modification of the name ought to consist of a general restoration of names of the Classical Era. This dilemma was explained by the fact that, at the time of the creation of the Greek state, the only "past" which was thought worthy of commemoration was the Classical Period. Ancient sites and monuments were subjected to the same procedure of erasing the medieval past. The image of the Parthenon we see now was created in the nineteenth century after the elimination from the Acropolis of all the buildings not belonging to the Classical Period of the fifth century BC. It was only after the Balkan wars in 1912-1913 that the Byzantine and medieval periods began to be thought capable of providing references in "space-time" for modern Greek ideology. However, even after the national ideology was enriched in these ways, Classical antiquity never lost its primacy."
- Above from page 235 of Hellenisms: culture, idenitity, and ethnicity from antiquity to modernity
- "One of the most revealing cases regards the change of the name of Ghioumoultzina/ GiimUlcine to Komotini: The Ottoman version of the name was very close to the old original Byzantine name Koumoutzina, but the more hellenised Komotini has prevailed. Report by the Committee on the place names in Greece to the Ministry of the Interior, 2.11.1921, AP 417, State General Archives ofAthens, Collection Stamoulis, K85.c, 8, doc 085. On the man agement of city space as a field of antagonism between Greeks and Turks and the symbolic power of the usage of buildings and plots once owned by the Muslim or Jewish communi ties by the majority, see V. Koutsoukos, 2004."
- Above from page 50 of Old and New Islam in Greece: From Historical Minorities to Immigrant Newcomers
- I don’t know the wiki syntax to add these quotes. Could you do that? The essence is that the Byzantine was only added later to the Greek canon and originally only classical names were accepted. Many towns and cities were changed from their Byzantine to their classical names. Homei (talk) 18:10, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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Lukova
Mirmbrama Ktrimi, we've discussed at Anthousa, Preveza. If you have a different opinion than I do, you, of course, can intervene. AlexBachmann (talk) 21:13, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hey, Lukova should be discussed on its own talk page. Any kind of consensus reached on Anthousa can't decide on Lukova. Btw, are the other side of the "deal" willing to add the Albanian name to Igoumenitsa and Parga, where there are still some Albanian speakers? Or are you "exchanging" important settlements like the entire Lukova municipality with dead and lost villages like Anthousa? Just asking because neither I care about those articles nor are such "deals" in line with Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:21, 4 July 2023 (UTC)]
- Alright, good point. If the Albanian name doesn't go to Parga and Igoumenitsa, we'll remove Lukova and Piqeras. Is that alright? AlexBachmann (talk) 21:25, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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You (possibly) disrupted the statement "The fortifications, as they have been preserved to date, are mostly of Venetian" (with added source) at the Rozafa Castle page.
The new statement is now "Originally an
- 3 other editors have made the same edit. Only you have opposed it. Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:24, 8 July 2023 (UTC)]
- I did not ask how many editors contributed with disruptive editing. I'm asking you to back your own statements, which you and the others editors have avoided to do. talk) 23:19, 8 July 2023 (UTC)]
- Another, 4th, editor reverted you. You should consider putting an end to edit warring. Ktrimi991 (talk) 01:30, 9 July 2023 (UTC)]
- Another, 4th, editor reverted you. You should consider putting an end to edit warring.
- I did not ask how many editors contributed with disruptive editing. I'm asking you to back your own statements, which you and the others editors have avoided to do.
Pristina
Mirmbrama Ktrimi, I somehow am concerned about the Latin etymology of Pristina that it is delivered from Primus Justinianus. The section of the book was written by Rexhep Doci not E. E. As you may know, he previously attempted to explain Budua and Malisheva through Albanian etymologies. I don't have any problem including it in the article and it, in fact, does sound possible, however, I'd like to hear your opinion. (In addition to that: Ulpiana (which is a a stone's throw away from Pristina) was called Justiniana Secunda and not Prima. In fact, a city near Nish was called Justiniana Prima, but the proximity does not convince me.) Again, I have no problem including it since it does sound possible in some degree. Thanks -AlexBachmann (talk) 21:13, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hey. I think that Pristina coming from Primus Justinianus is quite dubious, though it staying there is not a big deal since the other etymologies do not look anything better. If you want to remove it though, I am OK with that option too. Up to you. Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:55, 18 July 2023 (UTC)]
- Alright, I'll let it stay since there's (evidently) no consensus on the name. AlexBachmann (talk) 22:03, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
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Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:22, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- Ktrimi991 (talk) 01:50, 20 July 2023 (UTC)]
- Since the shift from "discretionary sanctions" to "contentious topics", editors alerted under the old system still need a new notice. I totally get how this seems like a duplicate.
- As regards the edit warring: you can be edit warring even with just one revert. You removed the phrase "with Greeks being the vast majority", which was at the center of an ongoing edit war that only stopped due to page protection. I'm glad you're discussing at the talk page, and I hope continuing to do so will lead to consensus. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:56, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- Ktrimi991 (talk) 02:13, 20 July 2023 (UTC)]
- I should have said "I hope continued discussion there will lead to consensus", as the burden definitely doesn't fall on you. Happy editing elsewhere. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:16, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks. Happy editing to you too. Ktrimi991 (talk) 02:19, 20 July 2023 (UTC)]
- Thanks. Happy editing to you too.
- I should have said "I hope continued discussion there will lead to consensus", as the burden definitely doesn't fall on you. Happy editing elsewhere. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:16, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hey @Ktrimi991 (talk) 19:50, 23 August 2023 (UTC)]
- I do plan on sanctioning editors who breach the restriction. We'll see what happens if changes made since the restriction are reverted. I do encourage you (and any others reading) to give editors who breach a chance to self-revert. Restrictions like this can be confusing. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:53, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Ktrimi991 (talk) 00:19, 24 August 2023 (UTC)]
- There is nothing "weird" about my edit summary, that account is suspect, something noted by Firefangledfeathers themselves. My first revert was before the restriction was in place. Once the restriction was put in place, the new account breached it by reverting. My second edit simply restored the status quo at the time that the restriction was put in place. Khirurg (talk) 00:34, 24 August 2023 (UTC)]
removal of sourced information by new account with only 1 contrib
Such an edit summary is weird, because you are not supposed to revert another editor just because they are a newbie (Ktrimi991 (talk) 00:51, 24 August 2023 (UTC)]- The restriction does not apply retroactively. A restriction can only be breached once it is put in place. You also interestingly forgot to mention that the material had been in the article for well over a month, until Khirurg (talk) 00:59, 24 August 2023 (UTC)]
Your comment above is laced with bad faith assumptions
Last time you accused someone of something, you got an AE-logged warning. I frankly advise you to focus on sorting out the content dispute through discussion on the talk page and stop edit warring.Ktrimi991 (talk) 01:11, 24 August 2023 (UTC)]it gives the impression that you are trying to game the system
,Is that the reason you are not seeking dispute resolution
, are accusations of bad faith. Perhaps it is time you were given an AE logged warning. Anyway, I have been continuously been posting on the talkpage and will continue to do so until a consensus is reached.Khirurg (talk) 01:16, 24 August 2023 (UTC)]
- The restriction does not apply retroactively. A restriction can only be breached once it is put in place. You also interestingly forgot to mention that the material had been in the article for well over a month, until
- I responded at the article talk page. Please don't bring the conduct accusations above over there, but I'd be glad to have your thoughts on the content. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:14, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- There is nothing "weird" about my edit summary, that account is suspect, something noted by Firefangledfeathers themselves. My first revert was before the restriction was in place. Once the restriction was put in place, the new account breached it by reverting. My second edit simply restored the status quo at the time that the restriction was put in place.
- @
- I do plan on sanctioning editors who breach the restriction. We'll see what happens if changes made since the restriction are reverted. I do encourage you (and any others reading) to give editors who breach a chance to self-revert. Restrictions like this can be confusing. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:53, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
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Reliability of sources
Kindly take a look at the sources that were recently added regarding Muhammad Ali Pasha heritage. Do those ones appear to be more reliable and academically accurate? This seems to be 'two new accounts' trying to change the version that was approved after several discussions and impose a different narrative that he wasn't even Albanian, unlike the popular concept. So should both ethnicities be added given that there are several sources mentioning the two?
Fragrant Peony (talk) 14:33, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:35, 10 August 2023 (UTC)]
- @Ktrimi991: Fully agreed, thank you!
- @
- I did not want to edit war and keep reverting them more than once, but thanks to other users who also acknowledged the issue, the page got restored to its last-stable version now. Moreover, too many articles and journals fail to distinguish between Ottoman and Turkish. Often, Muslim Albanians/Georgians/Greeks etc of that era are mistaken for Turkish, which is why the other sources of his Albanian heritage appeared more credible since they were specific and seemed to know the difference. Thankfully the page was finally protected. However, after revising the intro, I'm not even sure if writing his name in Modern Turkish Alphabet is historically accurate as that alphabet is not related to the Ottoman Empire and was only introduced later in 1928, so I'm not sure what Muhammad Ali has to do with it since only the Ottoman Turkish alphabet was used in those days. Fragrant Peony (talk) 15:48, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- @Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:47, 12 August 2023 (UTC)]
- @
- I did not want to edit war and keep reverting them more than once, but thanks to other users who also acknowledged the issue, the page got restored to its last-stable version now. Moreover, too many articles and journals fail to distinguish between Ottoman and Turkish. Often, Muslim Albanians/Georgians/Greeks etc of that era are mistaken for Turkish, which is why the other sources of his Albanian heritage appeared more credible since they were specific and seemed to know the difference. Thankfully the page was finally protected. However, after revising the intro, I'm not even sure if writing his name in Modern Turkish Alphabet is historically accurate as that alphabet is not related to the Ottoman Empire and was only introduced later in 1928, so I'm not sure what Muhammad Ali has to do with it since only the Ottoman Turkish alphabet was used in those days. Fragrant Peony (talk) 15:48, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
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Hey, Krtimi991, you posted:
@Valereee: a block is a punishment when:
- the editor has made it clear, beyond any reasonable doubt, that they understand their mistakes, have reflected and will not repeat them
- the disruption was done a considerable amount of time ago, so it can be concluded that the disruption has already ceased
- TIG made a personal attack here at ANI/I immediately after their block for personal attacks was lifted. So blocking TIG is not a punishment, it is step to stop further disruption. By not addressing the core issue, which is not merely hounding but breaching WP:CIVILITY against several editors, you might actually punish those who have to endure such personal attacks as "jobless" and "thick". If you address the hounding but not the other personal attacks and rudeness, then yes you are turning a blind eye. The message should be that all kinds of uncivility are not allowed and will be addressed; otherwise it gives the wrong idea that the community cares only about the hounding issue and does not give a f about the other cases of uncivility. To do that, an i-ban is not enough because it addresses only a part of the wider issue. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 16:54, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
- Still not a punishment. It's certainly a consequence of having refused to correct their behavior, and it may feel like a punishment to that editor, but it is absolutely never intended to punish, per very clear policy. It's intended to prevent ongoing behavior issues and -- in, for instance, the case of increasing duration of edit-warring blocks -- to decrease the burdens on admins responding to those issues.
- As I said, an admin could go to TIG's user talk and indef them for the personal attacks. Still not a punishment, and the fact no one has done so yet isn't evidence anyone is turning a blind eye. I think it's likely evidence admins are waiting to see what happens at the ANI and what TIG's response/course correction looks like. Valereee (talk) 17:24, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
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