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I enjoyed reading your article, Abortion in South Africa. I have to admit that when I clicked on it knowing it was a new page, I somewhat expected a biased account. You made the page very informative and presented it from a neutral point of view. Kudos! --Strangerer (Talk | Contribs) 20:18, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
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Hi there. Just ... wow! I live there, as it happens, and had never heard of that before. Well done in pointing that out (and adding references, too :) ) - good work! - Alison ☺ 16:26, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
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I have nominated South African Translators' Institute, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/South African Translators' Institute. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Zunaid 16:48, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Hi leuce. I think it would be a good idea to avoid making any more controversial edits on this article for a while, until there is a clear consensus on the talk page. I commend your attempt to discuss things, and recommend you leave ample time for the other editors to be convinced by your arguments. There's no rush here, Wikipedia isn't going to be finalised any time soon... So no 3RR block this time, but be extra-careful in future. Thanks, yandman 12:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
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- My edits in HIV/AIDS in South Africa have only improved the article. There were duplicated text which I removed. As to your suggestion that I use the talk page, well, I already do that. In fact, I have posted several suggestions on the Talk page about changes that I thought might be contentious. Have you seen it? -- leuce (talk) 10:08, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Outcome mapping
Hi. I checked back on the deleted article, because I didn't remember it, and I was actually the second person to delete it for the same reason - and it was pretty blatant ("how can you find out about outcome mapping - go to this website", etc). As long as it's a notable subject and your new version is written in an NPOV way, there's no reason it should be deleted again. Deb (talk) 17:53, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
mere editorialisation
I'm sure there are plenty of references for the symbolic value of the event, if you (or I) feel like looking for them. Zaian (talk) 07:23, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
- OK, found one. I'm also looking for references for the social democratic / democratic socialism categorisation for the ANC and COPE, which I see you've also taken an interest in. Regards, Zaian (talk) 08:12, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
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I am also not an expert. I love the idea and intend to build one so spent a bit of time researching them and then did my civic duty of adding what I had learnt to wikipedia! So.... if you think I am wrong on something or that you think it should be better then please do any edits you think make sense PeterEastern (talk) 03:38, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks for the compliments! I think the page is definitely interesting and potentially useful. I'd say start the article as soon as you're reasonably happy with it, and put the rest of your discussion points on the Talk page. I'm continuously surprised at how few active editors there are on South African topics, though, so don't be too surprised if there isn't much response when you've created the article.
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My other comments would be fairly minor, e.g. I would use a more neutral term like "State President" or "Prime Minister" rather than statesman, but those are details.
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Hi Leuce, in response to your query, no, but since they formed an alliance with the CDA, and all communication that I can find since has been in the CDA's name, it seems the CDP has ceased to exist. For example, the most recent press release on the CDP site is this one. Feel free to correct if you can find evidence of their independent existence. Greenman (talk) 15:23, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
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South African National Anthem Page - Your Edit
In fact, Leuce, the "South Afrika - South Afrika" is Sesotho, not English. Since Grade 1 in South Africa I have been taught that it is Sesotho, rather than English but spelled with a 'k' rather than a 'c' as it would be in English. I have edited the page in question, seeing as how I know that there is no bridging line between the Sesotho and Afrikaans verses. This is no personal offense to you, but I find this edit a personal offence to me, because if you do not know that this is Sesotho you are possibly not qualified to edit pages about South Africa. Please reply, I will revisit your page every Monday until this is sorted out, I would like to see some justice for my country and its proud tradition, and in this case the national anthem. Thank you, and note that I will sign my posts on your page with my name,
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- I can find no web references that "South Afrika" is either Northern of Southern Sotho. But I can find several references that "Afrika Borwa" and "Aforika Borwa" is. Take a look, for example, at President Jacob Zuma's 2009 State of the Nation address in English, Northern Sotho and Southern Sotho: http://www.info.gov.za/speeches/2009/09060310551001.htm, http://www.info.gov.za/speeches/2009/09061716351004.htm, and http://www.info.gov.za/speeches/2009/09061716251003.htm. Nowhere in the two Sotho versions is "South Afrika" used for "South Africa". -- leuce (talk) 16:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
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I see the referencing of the article is a pretty horrible mess of mixed styles including many bare URLs. Cleaning it all up will be quite a lot of work which I am willing to try. However as you are actively editing the article I will wait until you have finished. Please let me know when I can start fixing the refs without worrying about conflicting with your edits. Thanks Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:04, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
- Our edits clashed once today but I think we both managed to "fix" it. I'll wait a few days before making further edits, if you want. -- leuce (talk) 23:46, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
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- My edit on the Lumosity page is not edit warring -- I simply complied with the comment made by the bot, namely that the edit must be substantiated. --leuce (talk) 13:47, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
- There is no hope for the homeopathy article -- it has been hijacked by people with specific, narrow views on the topic and they will revert any edit that does not conform to their superstition. --leuce (talk) 13:47, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
- You are repeatedly trying to force your edit (an edit you have also made previously, which was reverted). You have been warned. talk) 13:50, 16 June 2017 (UTC)]
- W.r.t. Lumosity: the first reversion (11 February 2017) was actually done by myself, so I wasn't "warring" with the person who reverted it. Today, I changed my mind about the edit, so I reverted it, but I was reverting my own reversion. Then a bot came along and re-reverted it, saying that it should be substantiated, which I then did. But now I'm guilty of edit warring with a bot :-) and that's never a good idea, so I'll just let sleeping dogs lie.
- W.r.t. the homeopathy edit, well, my tiny edit brought the article text in line with the cited reference, but the article guardians don't care about that. I might try it your way (i.e. use the Talk page, get consensus, etc.) but I don't have much hope. --leuce (talk) 14:16, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
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Cafetran Espresso
Hello, you did a great job improving the page. Do-you think it stands a chance being accepted now? Nicolas Gambardella Le Novère (talk) 15:13, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Absolutely amazing piece of work, btw! Fingers crossed it gets accepted as it's a fantastic collection of info on my favourite CAT tool. Michael Beijer (talk) 00:26, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Galadriel (band)
I have recently created an article for the Australian progressive rock group from 1969 to 1972. I believe the previously deleted article of that title referred to a Slovakian group?shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 06:52, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, I believe it was for https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Galadriel/4203. --leuce (talk) 14:45, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
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As I asked the new editor there I guess I should ask you if you have any relationship with AfriForum. Being a member doesn't give you a
- I am not a member of AfriForum or of any other organisation under the umbrella of the Solidarity Movement, nor have I ever given them money. I do not agree with everything that AfriForum does or says, although many of their statements and arguments are consistent with my personal opinions. I may have voted for the Freedom Front or the Freedom Front Plus in one or more of the elections (I honestly can't remember). --leuce (talk) 20:18, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's pretty much the sort of reply I expected. It's really the new editor I'm concerned about. Doug Weller talk 20:28, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
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As you might have seen, I am trying to reboot the EN CTE page. I am not even sure it is possible once a page has been rejected (not just declined). Trying to fix the notability issue, I think we went too far and appeared to be trying to "sell" the software tool, GAMING the system. So I stripped the page bare. I apologize because most of the flesh came from you. We still have the history to recover the necessary bits and pieces as we progress, and of course the Talk page with your amazing collection of references. Nicolas Gambardella (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:29, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
- Although I agree that "we" have been wronged by Wikipedia moderators who constantly shifted the goalposts for this particular article, the fact is that any attempt to reboot the article will only succeed if proper Wikipedia procedures are followed. I'm confident that our attempts at proving notability did not cause the article any harm. The moderators believe that the product is not [yet] notable, and our current arguments did not sway them. So I think what we need to do is wait a few years and hope that CafeTran becomes even more notable (likely) or that another set of moderators who have a different interpretation of notability comes along (unlikely), and then initiate a "deletion review" procedure. Simply recreating the article with revisions that do not address the deletion reason will only antagonise current and future moderators and will not benefit the community. -- leuce (talk) 08:11, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
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