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Hi Obankston, Why did you choose to put Neuro-linguistic programming at the end of the disambiguation page when it is by far the most popular usage of the acronym based on the usage statistics and prevalence. Just do a search of any literature database or google scholar to see what I mean. I suppose you were just not sure where to list it. I think it would be best under the title "communications and psychotherapy". It may be considered tenuously linked to linguistics and therefore listed next to Natural language processing. ----Action potential ^{discuss contribs} 10:46, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your comment about the placement of Neuro-linguistic programming at the end, is the only comment I have received about my choice of subject headings and the placement of entries therein. I have reorganized over 30 disambiguation pages with hundreds of entries, so that gives me a score of over 99%. Success.

The reasons for putting the article on neuro-linguistic programming at the end (1) avoid subject headings with a single entry per

Natural Language Processing has about 550 links to it in Wikipedia, Neuro-linguistic programming has about 560, and I am editing Wikipedia, not a literature database or google scholar (8) counts need to be used carefully - the subject "grocery shopper" is not wildly more important than the subject "prime minister" because of the count of people who perform that role (9) standard google search shows both of these wikipedia articles at the top of the non-sponsored list (10) in every disambiguation page, somebody's favorite subject is at the top, and somebody's favorite subject is at the bottom (11) ignorance - never heard of neuro-linguistic programming

before.

So I revised NLP to add the heading "communications and psychotherapy" and put it in the middle like the wiktionary entry.

Update about the count of links:

Links to Neuro-linguistic programming:

All: 560, Articles: 220

Links to

Natural Language Processing

:

All: 430, Articles: 340

The conclusion is that

Natural Language Processing

has more articles that reference it. So it is indeterminate which should be the primary subject.

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Can we also consider the wikipedia page usage statistics? Neuro-linguistic programming gets more than 3000 hits[1] per day whereas Natural language processing get less than 1000[2] visits per day. The difference is that Natural language processing is a purely academic field. It is of very little interest, if any, to the general public but of great interest to academic working in associated fields. My point is that when someone thinks of NLP, they will almost always think of Neuro-linguistic programming. Then again, if you searched "NLP" linguistics or medical databases you'd probably get more hits for Natural language processing. So, I'm undecided too. ----Action potential ^{discuss contribs} 02:47, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct - a ratio of 3:1 in visits per day leaves the issue indeterminate. A ratio of 30:1 would warrant a conclusion, and somewhere in between would be the breakpoint, but not venturing a guess here of where the breakpoint is. ----Obankston (talk) 02:23, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Obankston (talk) 19:54, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for creating the new section on this page for clothing and fabric! It makes the pages easier to search and less random - great work! - Ahunt (talk) 12:43, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added two three more sections. The purpose is not only to make the page easier to search, but also the page is listed in Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls, which means the page needs to be broken up. The new sections are in support of breaking up the page, but I don't yet have a proposal of how to break up the page. Obankston (talk) 18:12, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added yet more sections, but also deleted a section and provided a reference to another page of userboxes because it did not belong, and a similar thing with a section I merged into another userbox page and emptied out but did not delete because it belonged. This removes enough entries so that the page does not need to be broken up because the page is now off the list of Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls. Obankston (talk) 21:02, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I thot it was obvious that you don't know create a lk to a Cat, and fixed a text ref & many uncalled-for Cat memberships for you. But i see in the preceding msg that you do know how to create a Cat lk. So i presume what i fixed was just an oversight on your part, and that you'll still be happy that it's fixed.
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INTP that I am, I didn't read the instructions but just copied the initial colon (:) on a Category link not knowing what it was used for. After I took the colons out, thinking they were superfluous, the firebells go off and people are coming to my user page. Thanks for the fix. Obankston (talk) 23:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply

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I noticed that you reverted my change to 666 (number). I am a mathematician working in a mathematical section, and mathematicians find meaning where there was no meaning before. I made a good faith unsuccessful effort to search for an applicable reference on google.com, but I don't think a citation is needed to imply that "DCL means DCL and XVI means XVI". Please restore the change, or let me change it back, tomorrow so we don't get involved in edit warring. Obankston (talk) 00:46, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moved above paragraph to here so comment and response would be in the same place. Obankston (talk) 16:49, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frankly, I fail to see why breaking apart the roman number representation into smaller bits and looking at them individually makes much sense mathematically. But I reverted your edit because the wikilinks you created go to disambiguation page and a redirect respectively - both things that should be avoided usually. Also both links are directly connected so they look like one. Please consider fixing that when you edit again. Lars T. (talk) 02:15, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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As reviewing administrator, I had to delete it. The objections were that there were no third party sources, and none have been added. Please do not recreat until you have these source available-- and put them in the actual article immediately. DGG ( talk ) 00:54, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

At your request I restored it, and sent it to WP:AFD, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/T2 SDE (2nd nomination). I very strongly advise you to add the other sources immediately --they were not in the version of the article I saw. DGG ( talk ) 19:33, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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How to improve Biblesource template

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Life form

After a look at your contributions, I realize your religious/fictional preferences. I preffer the physical and scientific realm of knowledge, so I will avoid all collaborations with you. All I have to say on the

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After reviewing your contributions, I see that you focus on the physical and scientific. One of my goals in Wikipedia is to cover the broadest range of human concepts, including physical, alleged, religious, and fictional, since these arenas both conflict and interact with each other. Most people specialize; an interdisciplinarian is less common. This is part of my interest in

life forms available in Wikipedia would be considered an essay. Obankston (talk) 06:02, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply

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I added 4 references, the first 2 were open wiki's. I replaced the open wiki references with named author references, and re-inserted the other two references. Obankston (talk) 16:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks slightly better, although I still think neither of these sources satisfy

wp:RS. I'll leave it to others to object though. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 16:49, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply

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I will review them when I have more time. At the moment, I am also thinking that these do not meet Wikipedia standards, but I need to have a closer look. ---- Steve Quinn (talk) 06:50, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for helping.

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Please reply on my talk page. I look forward to your reply. The Transhumanist 06:39, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The subject belongs to Outline of linguistics. Principles of interpretation is more a term describing a collection of principles than a subfield of linguistics.

Exegesis and hermeneutics could be considered to be subfields of applied linguistics.

I added the articles

principles of interpretation, exegesis, and hermeneutics to Index of linguistics articles

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Thank you. That helps a lot.

By the way, to make the outline more useful to more people, a good strategy is to increase its availability by adding a link to it to every page that it is relevant. The Transhumanist 18:54, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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