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Archive 42: May 2018

Hi Onel5969 -- I've declined this speedy because being an ambassador to two major cities seems a clear notability claim. Being executed for treason and then rehabilitated also appears somewhat unusual. As he died in 1622, we don't need to worry about the BLP policy with regard to the lack of sourcing. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:26, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Espresso Addict - Thanks for the explanation. I don't think I did a BLP prod though, that's why I speedied. Without references, there is nothing to show that the assertions claimed in the article are accurate. Take care. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:53, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I'm the professor of the college student editor (bzuegel) who wrote the Xianzi, the Shrimp Eater Wikipedia article. You flagged it as needing more citations. Can you please be more specific or flag specific sentences rather than the entire article? As a specialist on the topic, I graded and vetted this article before it was uploaded to the main space, and I am satisfied with the citations in this work. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michwang108 (talk • contribs) 03:05, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I'm the professor of the college student editor (hgiordano) who wrote the Chinsō Wikipedia article. You flagged it as needing more citations. Can you please be more specific or flag specific sentences rather than the entire article? As a specialist on the topic, I graded and vetted this article before it was uploaded to the main space, and I am satisfied with the citations in this work. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michwang108 (talk • contribs) 03:06, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I'm the professor of the college student editor (ltk8) who wrote the Shigajiku Wikipedia article. You flagged it as needing more citations. Can you please be more specific or flag specific sentences rather than the entire article? As a specialist on the topic, I graded and vetted this article before it was uploaded to the main space, and I am satisfied with the citations in this work. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michwang108 (talk • contribs) 03:08, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Michwang108 - first two things: please always sign your comments on talk pages (either article's or user's), using four tildes (like this: ~~~~); also, please provide a link to the article you have a question about. Now to your question, and I'm going to answer all three here. Virtually every assertion in each of the articles needs a citation, else it is considered original research and can be deleted at any time. For example in the Xianzi article, there is an uncited assertion at the end of the "Sources" section. Any time you see something like that, there should be a citation. All three articles are very under-cited. Additionally, when citing a book, magazine or newspaper, please use page numbers. When citing a book like Awakenings : Zen figure painting in medieval Japan, and not giving a page number, the citation is virtually worthless for researchers. Hope this helps. Btw... all 3 were fascinating articles, thanks for contributing (or guiding your students to contribute).Onel5969 ^{TT me} 04:39, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Onel5969, I'm the creator of the Pin Drop Studio article you reviewed today. Thank you for your comments, and for your view that the subject is notable. Your are duly noted and I have made edits accordingly, which I would like to get your perspective on. I've used only the most relevant citations, and re-wrote the lead to be more factual, as you suggested. I look forward to hearing from you as to whether I should re-submit this current version for review. Kind regards.Wantaz (talk) 13:51, 2 May 2018 (UTC)Wantaz

Nicely done Wantaz - moved to mainspace. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:57, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Wow. That is very encouraging! Thank you, Onel5969. It's my first article and I am looking forward to creating more. Wantaz (talk) 14:00, 2 May 2018 (UTC)Wantaz

• MinskBel (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Alexander Abugov (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, could you please help me to edit the article so it would not violate any rules. Tnanks! MinskBel (talk) 16:49, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

• MinskBel (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Alexander Abugov (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, could you please help me editing the article. Thanks a lot!

MinskBel (talk) 16:51, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

• MinskBel (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Alexander Abugov (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello,

I just would like to add that the author worked in Soviet Union where there were a lot of restrictions. Only government could decide what to publish on English for other countries. Some materials were re-published on English (see https://www.scopus.com/authid/detail.uri?authorId=7004021962), other materials are presented as attached copies (on Russian) on https://independent.academia.edu/AlexanderAbugov. I understand that it's hard to read on Russian to prove that the name on those publications is the same as Alexander Abugov (since it's A.L.Abugov or Abugov A.L. (but by Russian letters)). Also please check https://orcid.org/0000-0003-3960-5667.

Please also check some citations on the draft where different authors cite some publications of Alexander Abugov.

I would really appreciate your help.

Thanks! MinskBel (talk) 17:23, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I notice you reverted it to the redirect to Peshawar. I did not see such discussion about the consensus. I would like it to be an independent article as in the case of Patna/Pataliputra ie. the old city is separated historically to the present day entity. Thanks.Sgnpkd (talk) 07:22, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

All the travellogue cartoons from Tex Avery have pages. This is the only one so why not make a page for it. It is notable for being Avery's travellogue series. Yay Dad (talk) 18:15, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Those are not legitimate notability criteria. See

WP:OSE. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

18:18, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Then why policy say Keep cause this article is just as notable as the other travellogue films. Not understand. Yay Dad (talk) 18:24, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Because you don't understand. That's not what policy says. It says exactly the opposite. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 19:07, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

I know not understand. But what does mean? Yay Dad (talk) 14:26, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

• MinskBel (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Alexander Abugov (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

The submission was declined based on reason that there is almost a zero citation count on Scholar and it doesn’t meet criteria for reliable, secondary sources. Please consider the following:

1. The author worked in Soviet Union where there were a lot of restrictions. Only government could decide what to publish on English for other countries. The criteria for citing on Scholar is hardly reliable for scientists who lived in communist countries and it does not reflect the importance of scientific work.

2. Thinking about reliable, secondary sources there is an evidence that such a scientist produced significant amount of scientific publications and inventions. 2.1. Some materials were re-published on English - Scopus (please see independent source – Scopus https://www.scopus.com/authid/detail.uri?authorId=7004021962). 2.2. There is also independent source on German - Leibniz Information Centre for Science and Technology(please see https://www.tib.eu/en/search/?id=198&tx_tibsearch_search%5Bquery%5D=Abugov%2C+A.L.&tx_tibsearch_search%5Bsrt%5D=rk&tx_tibsearch_search%5Bcnt%5D=20). 2.3. There is an independent source on Polish - Institute of Advanced Manufacturing Technologies (please see http://www.ios.krakow.pl/sawios/expertus.php?KAT=%2Fhome%2Fwww%2Fsawios%2Fpar%2F&FST=data.fst&FDT=data.fdt&ekran=WIN&lnkmsk=2&cond=AND&mask=2&F_00=00&V_00=Abugov+A.L.) 2.4. The information about inventions can be found at European Patent Office (please see https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&ST=advanced&IN=Abugov%20Aleksandr%20L&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&PA=%5BSU%5D#!)

3. Since not all publications and inventions were available for different citing agencies and only small amount of publications were available for other than Soviet Union countries there is a full source of publications and inventions on https://independent.academia.edu/AlexanderAbugov This source contains copies of original publications and author’s certificates for inventions on Russian which can be downloaded. Those copies reflect significant contribution to science which with Soviet Union collapse is available now for other researchers. 4. Please also take into consideration that in publications the name of author is written in Russian tradition as A.L.Abugov or Abugov A.L. There is a good amount of citations in publications on Russian which probably are not reflected on Scholar or other than Russian languages citation agencies. 5. All described above mentions prove that subject is notable and worthy.

Please consider everything said above and reconsider your decision about that submission. Any your suggestion about improvements will be taken with gratitude.

Thanks!

MinskBel (talk) 02:48, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

The draft has been updated. The two dead links removed and replaced by two new and reliable sources.

inam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inamabidi (talk • contribs) 12:17, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Precious

Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda Arendt! Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:03, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Four films and a popular TV series make notable. Xx236 (talk) 12:56, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

You need to read notability guidelines. No they don't. And don't post on my page again. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:01, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Uh...what's that about? Talk pages are explicitly to discuss and work with each other. Xx236 has been around longer than I have, and I'd be willing to almost guarantee good faith from their edits. English is also not their native language. What's with the "don't post on my page again"? Sock (tock talk) 15:18, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Sock - long time no speak. You're right about user talk pages, as long as the discussion is civil. I've simply grown tired of incivility and lack of AGF (which to me is a form of civility), the latter of which the other editor clearly was guilty of. And so when I come across it on talk pages, I ignore it. However, on my talk page, I can ask that they don't interact here. Which is what I did. Take care. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:21, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind I've protected this page for a few hours, for reasons that are probably evident from the page history. I'll happily undo if this is unwanted. Thanks. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 18:54, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Not at all Ivanvector - I had put in a RPP request for a day or so. I appreciate it. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:52, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Can we PLEASE keep the page

It's definitely going to happen.

The page has good sources and good edits that deserve to please be preserved.

Thank you so much !!!

96.249.215.234 (talk) 11:50, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello. First of all thank you for filling out references in the said articles (I was never able to know how to use the automatic tools). The article

No worries, Gateshead001, happy to help. Not an admin, but I have put in a request for the move, so it should happen in the next day or so. Keep up the good work. Lots of good article starts. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 12:26, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the assistance! --Gateshead001 (talk) 12:41, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

@

CAT:SD, it's now  Done. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk

) 14:36, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi thanks for reviewing so many of my new articles! Mccapra (talk) 23:06, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

No worries, Mccapra - Keep up the good work! Onel5969 ^{TT me} 23:46, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

I think Chongqing No.68 Middle School is a notable middle school.It is a demonstration junior high school in the Shapingba District and the school is one of the ten most influential middle schools in Chongqing, China.It is as notable as Chongqing Railway High School and Chongqing No.7 high School.Why these schools can have entries,Chongqing No.68 Middle School can not have entrie?--被你抛弃的哀伤 (talk) 13:57, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

First of all, the claim that it is one of the ten most notable is uncited. Second, very rarely are elementary or middle schools shown to be notable, as per

WP:OSE, and not a valid argument. To show a non-high school is notable, you have to have quite a bit of in-depth coverage from non-local sources, which this article does not have. Sorry. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

14:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Actually the correct procedure (per policy) which we apply to non notable primary and middle schools, is to blank and redirect them to the school district article (US), or to the article about the locality (rest of the word). We add the {{R from school}} templateto the redirect page. If as in the case of this article, the creator reverts the redirect, then it should be sent to AfD. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chongqing No.68 Middle School where you are welcome to participate. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:03, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Kudpung - You're absolutely correct, should have redirected. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:07, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Somebody put a redirect to the new Lake Street Dive album "Free Yourself Up". I removed the redirect tag and placed the album information in is place. Please put something on the talk page of "Free Yourself Up". You leaped without thinking. Rcollman (talk) 15:53, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Well, "slightly annoyed", first, it's polite to provide a link to the page you're talking about. Second, seriously? Not a SINGLE reference. Of course it was going to be redirected. Please read the notability criteria at

WP:NALBUMS. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

15:57, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, you nominated Mark Friedman for deletion because it had no references. I fixed it. Lemme know if more has to be done.

Mattyice10 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattyice10 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi

WP:GNG, so I've in-reviewed to allow a different editor to evaluate it. Take care. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

21:59, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing all of those pages of mine! I was pleasantly surprised when my 46 new notifications turned out not to be someone trying to hack my account.

—Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 22:41, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

No worries Compassionate727... nice job, keep up the good work. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 00:15, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

You recently deleted SHINee From Now On because it "wasn't notable." It IS notable. THis was their final release as 5, AND it contains unreleased tracks that feaure Jonghyun pothsumously.-K-popguardian (talk) 16:27, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Dude, you alive?-K-popguardian (talk) 00:57, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Dude... you coherent? If you are going to be irrational and rude, don't post here. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 00:59, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Re: Dixon Elementary, User:Kausticgirl said there's a documentary about it. I'll investigate further. WhisperToMe (talk) 14:03, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Found some refs: https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/the-curators-of-dixon-school/Film?oid=6946139 and http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/11/15/new-film-looks-at-arts-influence-on-dixon-elementary-school-students/ - Will restore the article WhisperToMe (talk) 14:11, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm the creator of List of awards and nominations received by Dua Lipa page. Did it met the requirements to not get removed? Was it accepted?

The threshold for list articles is very low, but it's not a question of acceptance/rejection, but one of does it pass the notability guidelines. This does. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 23:54, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

		The New Page Patroller's Barnstar
		Thanks for your hard work picking up the slack of late! Cheers, — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 02:38, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Every FBS and FCS teams have their own pages going back at least 5 years now. For you to single out 2018 Saint Francis Red Flash football team and 2018 Sacred Heart Pioneers football team and redirect them and not the other 280 pages is crazy. Please take your reasoning to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football before redirecting again. Bsuorangecrush (talk) 03:29, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

I did. And please understand application of guidelines, rather than

WP:BRD until a consensus is reached on the talk page. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

10:46, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Dear Onel5969, thank you for your message and I'd like to congratulate to you for The New Page Patroller's Barnstar but I think you're not right but we are human beings and to err is human. I think you have not pay enough attention to the fact that I am an confirmed editor and I am aware of the facts of notability guideline for academics and the rule of WP:NSCHOLAR and the article in question is highly suitable for creating a wikipedia article. Your nomination for delation was pretty husty, I think, and I understand your intention to defend the interests of Wikipedia but on the one hand the article was still in its start point, I've just started the first steps so it was an unfriendly act to offend this article but on the other hand I may have made a mistake that I've forgotten putting the template "under constrction" though this article is abouut a notable man, scientist who is respected in my country and in Central and Eastern Europe. First he has lotsa references in several other aricles becase his publications are used in lotsa articles:

• [1]

You are not right, he owns several secondary sources and not only in Hngarian bt in English, too. I think if a person can be found in a contemporary biograpichal dictionary, that person can also deserve the article in wikipedia. A lexicon article has been written about Géza Pálffy in Hungary:

• Géza Pálffy (in Hungarian). In: Béla Varga (ed-in-chief.): Veszprém megyei kortárs életrajzi lexikon (A Contemporary Biographical Dictionary of VIPs in Veszprém County). Veszprém: Veszprém Megyei Önkormányzat Közgyűlése (Self Government of Veszprém County). 2001. Retrieved 2018-05-23.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: others (link)

I understand you do not know this historian in Amarica but the scientists who research the history of

• "Állami kitüntetéseket és szakmai díjakat adott át Balog Zoltán (Minsiter Zoltán Balog Gave Out Civil Awards and Decorations to Citizens)" (in Hungarian). Emberi Erőforrások Minisztériuma (Ministry of Human Capacities). 2015-08-19. Retrieved 2018-05-23.

I hope I have managed to prove my arguments and standpoint that the article in question should be kept on English wikipedia and now you will give up the idea to delate it and as you have written it to me, I can remove the text that looks like this: {{proposed deletion/dated...}} and you'll accept this, you agree with me and you won't change my editing and you would no longer like to delate it. Best regards.

I believe you made a flawed AfD nomination here [2] by representing the

You have the right to that opinion. To me, if a person has won the Silver Star, that is higher than ANY civilian award. Yet, that is not considered significant by WP standards. Take care. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 03:30, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

I merged the two articles I created into one. Plus, I also fixed the weird sentences. I need your review. And lastly, I'm putting two more citations eventually. --Komitsuki (talk) 08:05, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

In an effort to try to learn from my mistakes I see you reviewed

You could be right, Barkeep49, although that's not the way I read wp:judge. As per #1 of that, which reads in part, "...judges who have held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office...", and I'm not sure, and there is no direct guidance as to whether or not magistrate judges should or should not be included in that designation. If the district she served in were statewide, than it would be easy to include, but since it only covers the western portion of the state, I can see why your position has merit. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:07, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

If you want the page to be removed, ask for it, don't blank. I have added notability template according to your critics.Xx236 (talk) 06:26, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Don't be discouraged by some of the spiteful comments in response to your deletion nomination. There are a lot of so-called contributors around who expect others to do all their work for them. Deb (talk) 09:46, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi

WP:AFDNOTCLEANUP, sometimes it is the only way to get an article improved, or to resolve the issue of whether or not it should be an article or should stay a redirect. In this instance I checked to see if her novels had articles, and saw only the stub article without a single independent source. As I was not researching the notability of her books, my searches only turned up the several reviews to Madonnas, plus a single review of one of her other novels. In addition, there wasn't a single in-depth article about the author herself. In fact, despite the recent good work by Coolbeapple, there still isn't a single in-depth reference about her from an independent source. Since the editor who turned the redirect into an article was too lazy to put any effort into the article and source it properly, and I couldn't find the sources, AfD appeared to be the route to go. Actually, I had decided to close the discussion and remove my nom, until Eppstein's comment. Which made me quite done with the matter. Took both the article and the discussion off my watchlist. Incivility is one of my target points. No need for it. And while as I said before, AFDNOTCLEANUP, I actually enjoy when an AfD I began results in turning a garbage article (or in this case 2, if you include Madonnas), into decent ones. Again, thanks. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

19:57, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Too true. I feel the same about it. Taking something to AfD (or speedy deleting it) can get you a lot of flak - God knows I've had plenty of it - but sometimes it's the only way to highlight this issue and get people to actually do something about it. Deb (talk) 07:46, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I'm still relatively new here, but just had a quick query as to why Brisbane Street, Perth was categorized as a New South Wales geography stub when it's in WA. Thanks. MadamePhoenica (talk) 00:44, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi again. Just wanted to let you know it eventually occurred to me why it was listed as a NSW stub *face palm* lol MadamePhoenica (talk) 01:03, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Yeah - screwed that one up. It's now corrected. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 12:55, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Yeah the Average Australian wouldnt know much about the geography of New York for that matter, so the same is expected in reverse - at least you are able to correct... thanks for that. I remain nostalgic for the editors (from who knows where) who think Tasmania is a country... JarrahTree 13:05, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks JarrahTree - While I don't do a lot of editing on Australia articles, I do a fair bit. I simply mis-read the article and picked up on the fact it was named after the governor of NSW, rather than the more important fact that it was in Perth. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:15, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Hahah - I have done worse (I dont admit to my mistakes that much) - but thank you for your help with the Australian project area - much appreciate your help JarrahTree 13:29, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Can you explain why you reverted three of my updates to the selected articles; like Portal:Serbia/Selected article/17? I see no benefit to the portal.--Auric talk 12:04, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Can you explain to me why you're asking me about stuff I didn't do? It was not I who reverted you. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 12:57, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Woops, Sorry!--Auric talk 15:35, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Onel5969, please rewiew this pages:

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Thank you and have a nice day

This man was important in the history of the Proteaceae. Most of his work has not lasted, but people did have to argue against him to reach current consensuses. His work has not been republished, nor has it yet found its way into online repositories. I hope you will give me the time to find further references to him (probably most of which will not be capable of adding much to the story). But he was prolific and influential in his time. MargaretRDonald (talk) 20:44, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, simply does not meet either

WP:SCHOLAR. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

13:09, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Which is why at the talk page I have said that considering the unchallenged articles about botanists with similarly low publication rates etc that dont fit the absurd metric havent been touched - making this an undue exception. Most practising botanists have not been in institutions to qualify the academic parameter - they have been government civil servants - and the strictures simply do not apply JarrahTree 13:24, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Which is an invalid

WP:OSE argument, which is why I ignored it. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

13:27, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

fair enough but it does not convince me that there arent large numbers of potential stubs about botanists, grologists, veterinary surgeons and other civil servant professionals that deserve to stand free of metrics that are confined to workplace environments that simply that do not corellate relative to publication obsessed academics JarrahTree 13:31, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

WP has guidelines. If you wish them changed, make a proposal. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:32, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Hahaha - in all WP:AGF - try it. Nothing personal, it is a long and complicated issue, here is not the place to explain. JarrahTree 13:42, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

It is tied into a complex argument about the origins of the pedia in the states where things like scholar make sense - specially if you are tied in with medicos, psychs, and academics - but in the global south and post colonial environments like India and Australia the base of the metric assumptions simply dont fit - but short of being in a sit down situation, lots of coffees/beers or wines at something like a wikimania - hey this is not the place. JarrahTree 13:55, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Could you please explain to me as to why the page Take Me to the Kaptin was deleted and redirected to Prism (Prism album). I believe the page was not finished and was not given a fair chance to be fixed up and add additional information. I could not see any vandalism present. The page is notable and should be visible to the public. An explanation is due. LilJohnnyWimple (talk) 13:06, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

The page was not deleted, simply redirected. Please see

WP:NALBUM for pertinent notability criteria, none of which was shown in the article. If the article is a draft in progress, it should be in the draftspace, not the mainspace, until it is ready. The vandalism is due to the personal attack. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

13:08, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Following up just to say, this has now been addressed. Best, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 15:17, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

I am checking to see why four albums I entered (Homestead Redemption, The Best Of Clover: An American Band In London, Live At The Paradiso, and Live At Winterland) were removed and redirected to the Clover (band) page. The band members Alex Call, John McFee, Sean Hopper, and Huey Lewis who appear on these albums are well known musicians and I would consider them notable (867-5309, Doobie Brothers, Huey Lewis and The News). Clover is releasing their new album Homestead Redemption pretty soon as well.Eskew (talk) 14:11, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi

WP:NALBUM should be redirected to the band. If they do meet notability criteria, please add that, with appropriate citations to the articles. Please be aware that notability is not inherited, and simply because the band, or band members are notable, does not make their albums notability guaranteed. Same with an upcoming album. Hope this helps. Onel5969 ^{TT me}

14:15, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the info.Eskew (talk) 15:03, 31 May 2018 (UTC)