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First, you cannot copy information from other pages, merge it to another and call that notable. That's why the Arrowverse page DOES NOT exist, because it's just a merging of content. We don't create pages and hope that people make them notable afterward. Should other pages exist, probably not, but I'm not working those pages. It is generally expected that most season pages won't even be created until after a fourth season because of space, and should only be created sooner when they are notable. Right now, you are simply stealing information from the main page and character page and calling it unique. It's not. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 02:35, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- The soundtrack information? You mean the stuff on the main page? Inserting a track list doesn't make it notable or "new" information. Look at the difference between Smallville (season 1). The latter has unique information that isn't found on the main page and has information making it notable. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 02:36, 17 September 2015 (UTC)]
- There's also no source for that music track information, and I feel like it was just taken from IMDb. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 02:39, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Look, you were bold in your edits, but they were reverted. If you disagree so wholeheartedly, then start a discussion at the LoE page. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 02:42, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- There's also no source for that music track information, and I feel like it was just taken from IMDb. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 02:39, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- You haven't expanded anything though. Unless you consider pulling information from other Wiki pages "expanding" (I call it duplication) and adding an unsourced track list of music (which is not really notable by itself) that would likely get removed if
it's simply taken from IMDbit's just from you watching, that's calledoriginal research. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 02:43, 17 September 2015 (UTC)]
- You haven't expanded anything though. Unless you consider pulling information from other Wiki pages "expanding" (I call it duplication) and adding an unsourced track list of music (which is not really notable by itself) that would likely get removed if
- If you want to work on them at Draft:Arrow (season 1), that's fine. You list "expand" templates when you have a page that is already notable, but not large or extensive. Season one of Arrow (and season two) haven't shown to be notable. All of the information on them is information that Is on the main page or the LoE page. You cannot strip the main page and say that makes the season's notable. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 03:03, 17 September 2015 (UTC)]
- If you want to work on them at
Plot information isn't "new". It's plot and doesn't dictate notability. What again is new in music? You still have original research in your tracking of music, and the prose information above it all comes from the main page. The casting info on Amell is from the main page and Oliver's character page. The only "new" information I can read is about casting Diggle and the rest of the actors comes from GreenArrowTV which is a fansite and unreliable source. It's only usuable when it's a direct interview, which it isn't. Additionally, there is more original research in that section, as you have stuff regarding Mia Deardon which isn't sourced, the stuff about Diggle's name. You've added fan speculation into the page and surrounded it with sources like they verify it. Basic announcement of casting isn't noteworthy. I know you're heart is in the right place, but you cannot cut corners because you really want a page to exist in the mainspace. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 19:55, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Bignole: very well, would you mind explaining to me then what kind of information (or quantity for that matter) would dictate notability. (And btw everything about music that is in the Arrow main page was written by me so I doubt it would constitute simply copying information. The main page has become too long, and it would be better for organizational purposes to move information to articles of the season to which it corresponds (for example in production))Oraklebat (talk) 20:00, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
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