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Ah, thanks. I didn't know he was a sock of known major vandal.Rlevse 21:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the unblock, Redvers. I'm at school right now and the blocked user apparently was working in the computer lab when he was blocked. Isn't there some stipulation about blocking an IP address that belongs to a school? Anyway, thanks. (Unfortunately, I know who the kid was too…) --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 22:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you revert my deletion nominations of those articles. If you actually looked into it, you would have noticed that those pages were indeed created as attack pages, and there was absolutely no proof or evidence of any kind. The were just another step in Emir Arven's never ending harassment of me. I have asked administrators to step in and ask him to stop using personal attacks against me, and to stop falsely accusing me, but he will just not stop. Perhaps maybe you could talk to him. But anyway, those pages must be deleted. —KingIvan 00:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Redvers, I just want to inform you that I reverted Ivan's edit to your version. [1]. I also want to say that Ivan's second account was blocked indefinitely and he was strongly warned by AnonEMouse. Ivan Kricancic - sock puppet. Ivan had second account which he created in order to nominate Bosniak-related pictures for deletion providing false information about the authors. He is an ethnic Croat, so he created the second account presenting himself to be an ethnic Bosniak who doesn't speak Bosnian, because he is from Australia. According to his user page (original user page) he hates Bosniaks, and makes funny of them. So his "ethnic Bosniak" account was blocked and he was warned. Emir Arven 19:25, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See here for proof that those pages must be deleted as they are not me. —KingIvan 03:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, how do you put user boxes in your user page? I really need to know! Lord JCYJ 20:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank for telling me, from now on I will didicate time to writing articles.Lord JCYJ 21:25, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I see you've twice removed the "no source" tag for this image. What, may I ask, is the source? The image is not part of the Bhagavad Gita itself, and has presumably been downloaded from a website. -Will Beback · † · 23:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply. Sorry if I sounded snippy, when I wrote that I thought you'd made the change twice. And thanks for all your work clearing out the speedy deletes, etc. You're a fine janitor/custodian. -Will Beback · † · 08:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for reversing the vandalism on my userpage!

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Just in case you'd like to block some more...He also appears to have Patsmom2 (talk · contribs). Patsmom (talk · contribs) was blocked on Wednesday. --Onorem 20:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. --Onorem 20:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. A while ago I had uploaded a promotional shot of Don Tapscott for his biography article. A few days ago it was deleted. I re-uploaded the image, this time with a different explanation of why I felt it was fair to use it on Wikipedia (namely that his company gave it to me for exactly that purpose). I made sure I left such comments both on the article talk page, and on the image, then earlier today, the image was deleted all the same. Would you be able to give me a hand in making sure that I'm able to upload a promo shot so that it does not meet speedy deletion (or any deletion) guidelines? I've been reading through the various criteria but I'm at a loss for backing up my assertions. Thanks for very much for your time. - Jdechambeau 19:23, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That was an extremely helpful reply, thank you! - Jdechambeau 20:28, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the barnstar! But to keep it neat on my userpage, I've converted it to the {{award2}} template, so it matches my other stars and doesn't throw it off. Again, thanks! :) --AAA! ^(AAAA) 22:09, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Redvers, I saw you deleted the photograph with my edit on the Cornelis Dopper entry because I forgot to add a copyright notice. My bad, obviously. I have now returned it with the necessary information; I have an e-mail confirming permission to use it from the Dopper Society's chairman. Hopefully all is in order now, but please let me know if it isn't. Thanks, Ilja.

Greetings, Redvers. I have long understood that to create a stub for an entertainment group of any kind is to walk on thin ice in these parts, but perhaps I need a more quantitative understanding of the A7 test: I understand now that citing only two recordings published on a major label is insufficient; is it that I did not cite critical reception or sales figures? --Streetstealth 18:42, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if that last message came across as terse. I know you have to deal daily with tons of pointless stuff that people post here, and I should have been more respectful of that. I appreciate that you have a hard job to do as a gatekeeper of sorts, and that given my very short list of contribs, there was almost nothing to distinguish me from the usual vanity page author.

The stub I'd like you to take a second look at was

is, of course, no small fish in the Japanese recording industry, so the group receives a fair amount of exposure in their native country. On the other hand, though, Victor releases quite a few albums each year.

Either way, I didn't mean to get off on the wrong foot with you. :) I really do want to contribute here, and to better understand the standards by which to do so. --Streetstealth 23:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I note you speepy deleted this twice. I wonder which of the criteria at

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Khador Script

You deleted my file and the reference to the file. http://forums.privateerpress.com/index.php?showtopic=38910

If you read there, you will see that the poster who created the fonts finally received full permission to disseminate them for non-commercial purposes from Privateer Press. Additionally, I have personally asked the creator of the font for permission in the said use just as a formality and received it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dana Montello (talk • contribs).

Hi. Just under a month and a half ago you approached me on my talk page and very generously offered to nominate me for the keys to the janitor's cupboard in due course [2]. I have recently had offers from several users who wish to nominate me for adminship at this time and feel it would now be rude to put the matter off any longer. However, I remain very touched by the fact that you were the first editor to express such confidence in me. If you still feel, allowing for my contributions since then, that you would like to nominate me I would be honoured to accept. WjBscribe 04:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. I have answered the questions, accepted and listed to the RfA. WjBscribe 23:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you delete the Vithoulkas photo i had used in the infobox ? If you check his website (both the bio page and the copyright policy page) you'll see they allow the use of photos on WP. Please reply here. Homeopathic 05:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Redvers, thank your for bringing to our attention the use of Vithoulkas' photograph. The photograph can be used freely by anyone now, we've changed its copyright status. Take another look at the links provided above. 62.38.76.63 09:57, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've re-uploaded and tagged the image, along with adding two links that prove its copyright status. Could you please check the page [3], so that i know if the whole thing now satisfies the WP standards. Thank you Homeopathic 15:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help Redvers, you were right. Ofcourse i'm not the photographer, and the tag you proposed is the right one. I'm really glad there are sensible editors like you on WP. Homeopathic 17:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Sorry for the newbie question. Regarding Ehud Goldwasser - I got official permission form Habanim.org association to use the image in wikipedia. How can I use it now?

Thanks

Mar Garina 06:56, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Redvers, could you please intervene in

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Ooo, indeed. User GoWest8, the "8" I suppose being number of his reincarnation in Wikipedia, suddenly activated his presence in Wikipedia with one signle goal of editing this article. Please check his IP address.Vlad fedorov 05:30, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So, let me get this straight. . . if someone gives permission for something to be used (but not sold for profit) I can't use it? I have to be able to legally sell everything I write? And someone who gives me use for a font can't give me use for a font or a picture on wikipedia unless they also give me permission to package it as a commercial product? I'm just not understanding very well. . . I thought I did, but I don't. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dana Montello (talk • contribs).

Redvers;
Congratulations on your fantastic reverting! I've been roaming around the new-user contrib. pages, and all the vandalising that I was going to revert, you did already! Great job, and keep it up!
Happy editing, (not)(listening)
Haha, clever! :) Keep up the (extremely fast) work. (Three already? Come on! I'm not that fast! TEACH ME!!)

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	Edit faster! A Ruthless Vandal

I also want to thank you for your diligence...in particular, your quick revert yesterday of the (recent-most)inappropriate edits and vandalism to that concise little Durand Line article. They've popped up a couple times over the past month, both times tripling the article length with largely irrelevant rants how "Balochistan can regain its independence. It is the right time to act now because..." I try to keep an eye on this article, and limit it to narrow Durand Line content (not the entire history of AF-Pashtun-Balochistan oppression and wars) since this falls in my main job description at work over here on our side of the pond. Keep up the good work. Thanks again. 169.253.4.21 13:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for blocking User:Angelis021. This user's vandalism also included blanking my user page, which got reverted more than an hour later. Would you mind watching my user page more (perhaps by adding my user page to your watchlist) in case of more vandalism? Han Amos 23:45, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Bobby Rahal Artical

I uploaded a picture of Bobby Rahal that was taken this past weekend at the 12 Hours of Sebring. We were guests of Mr. Rahal for the race. This picture was taken by a close friend that was in my group. He requested that I upload this to the Wiki for him. I am new to adding this type of content and may have not properly tagged the image for the copyright. I can assure you that i had permision to upload this file. Could you undelete this?

Jonesb930 12:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)jonesb930[reply]

Could you explain what I did wrong? I was emailed that picture from his campaign manager and thought I submitted it under fair-use. Did I not declare it correctly? Thanks, Kepper —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kepper (talk • contribs).

Hello. Thanks for your comments. Note that my username is really my inverted name. Han Amos 20:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

HI!

I am very new here and wanted to know why you have deleted my basics...ok the basics are not so important, but I want to have this logo inside. And perhaps you can help me in another thing. On my CIFE page there is a link to the english Version on IEHEI, Institut Europeen des hautes etudes internationales, but it does not work!!!

Thanks for the help! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by IEHEICIFE (talk • contribs).

RE: (Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#I3)

The following is the message (e-mail addresses removed for privacy) received this morning from Brett Silcox, associate director of the National Space Society with regards to your removal of images in question:

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Original Message-----

From: brett.silcox Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:55 AM To: WSpaceport Cc: george@; jgljgl@; aduignan@ Subject: Re: Just want to make sure we're all "legal" and everything . . .

They look really good to me. I beleive that the images don't have any copyright issues to them or we would not be using them.

THANKS for your hard work on this Jim. They look a lot better.

Brett

On 3/22/07, WSpaceport wrote:

George, Brett, Anthony and Jeff –

As you know, I've done a little dabbling with Wikipedia (when my schedule allows) to try and increase NSS's visibility with the masses: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Space_Society

If you click the "History" tab on a Wiki page, you'll see the gradual progression that's been made under my user name, "WSpaceport." Ditto for the historical record of NSI, L5, Space Nursing Society, Ad Astra magazine, ISDC and other areas of interest:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Space_Institute

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L5_Society

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_Astra_%28magazine%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Space_Development_Conference

However, I was recently tripped up by one of the WikiAdministrators known as " Redvers <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redvers> ," who deleted a couple of my recent improvements to the NSS and L5 Wikipages within an hour of their posting.

The "offending" items? The maps of NSS chapter locations in the US and around the world, as well as a diagram of Langrange points, relative to Earth-Moon that are currently posted on the NSS site.

I've taken steps to refile/upload the graphics again for use, hoping this time the stated material source is in proper compliance with Wikipedia under the fair use rules of copyright material, and the GNU Free Documentation License <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Free_Documentation_License>

I just wanted to make sure I'm O.K. by you, and "everything's Jake" with my efforts -- just in case you or your staff are contacted by the WikiCops for verification: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:US_chapters_map.gif

Regards,

~JS~

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I would appreciate if you can revert my efforts and restore/re-upload what you've deleted -- preferrably as quickly as you've taken them down.

Regards, ~JS~ WSpaceport 21:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FYI -- permission has been sent to the OTRS system regarding these images in question

Regards, ~JS~ WSpaceport 21:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

Let eme know if I am doing this the correct way please. I got permission from Halo Guitars to use all images and and my altered images are allowed to be public domain.

(W4D 23:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC))[reply]

You recently speedily deleted

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Yeah, {{PermissionAndFairUse}} might well have covered it. Sadly, the user didn't upload it as PermissionAndFairUse, as you will have seen when you looked at the deleted image's history (here).

As you know, the user uploaded it as a straight, automatically-marked, CSD#I3-listed, "non-commercial or Wikipedia-only" image. Which, as you are aware, is incompatible with Wikipedia and is immediately deletable. This was, of course, clear to you when you checked the history of the image before you wrote to me so I can't add much more the the existing Wikipedia policy, although the deletion log has a clear link to the policy and my talk page has a clear FAQ flagged at the top of it, as you saw.

As for the claims of

WP:BITE

, well, I'm sure you wish to withdraw such a serious allegation after further review.

Thanks.

RΞDVΞRS ✖ ЯΞVΞЯSΞ 23:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply

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I am sorry if you took offense, but I was merely trying to suggest that a new user, who doesn't understand the ways of wikipedia, could have used some help rather that having his work erased without any feedback or warning. It certainly wasn't malicious, but it was a nice attorney from Los Angeles who worked somewhat hard to get this image from Georgetown University and was quite frustrated by being swatted down the way he was. --rogerd 02:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

You deleted this image from the page Kate Ceberano - I am the webmaster for Kate Ceberano and we are would like to have an image of Kate published on Wikipedia from her website. What comments / licence should I use to ensure the image does not get deleted?

Thanks

enzymes 22:24, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

From reading you image subpage, am I correct in assuming the creator of that image just sent you a death threat?Bakaman 23:22, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Its amazing how you take it so nonchalantly, and how you have the math figured out.Bakaman 23:36, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The image laws are quite draconian, someone may think they got it right and then BAM! their image is gone under a random CSD they forgot to read. I myself got a couple deleted, so now I merely get admins at

WP:INDIA to find my images for me. I can see their (the maniacs) frustration, but homicide doesnt seem to be the best manner to get ones images on WP.Bakaman 23:54, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply

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An article that you have been involved in editing, Skapsis, has been listed by me for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Skapsis. Thank you. --A. B. ^(talk) 03:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Anthony first gave permission for use on wikipedia (nothing was mentioned about other uses). I contacted him after the picture was removed and explained that he must release the photo for all uses. I explained that it includes commercial and educational use; but I did not specifically say "GFDL" because I didn't think to include it. Anthony responded and stated that he is allowing the photo to be used for any purpose. I forwarded my email to Anthony and his responce to OTRS, if you would like, I can forward the email to you. Could you let me know if I, or Anthony, need to do anything more in terms of license for the photo? Chris01720 13:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yesterday I sent the email to OTRS and recieved a reply, but it is not clear to me in the reply email whether or not OTRS cleared the image as OK. If it was cleared as OK, then why is the image still tagged for deletion? Could you please help me with this? I don't want the image to be deleted have to go through the whole process again. Thanx. Chris01720 16:25, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Sign me? -DTD

I thought I should bring Bigev1 to your attention. I'm pretty certain this user is a sockpuppet of Bigevan1, and both accounts are being used for vandalism. Not only are the usernames similar, but both accounts have suspiciously similar types of vandalism, such as this edit by Bigev1 and this edit by Bigevan1. If both accounts belong to the same person, then Bigev1 should technically have a Level 3 warning. The reason I am making you aware of this is that I have noticed your prior warning given to Bigevan1. — Dorvaq (talk) 16:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for deleting the image I added to Brent Hartinger. I'm still working on understanding the image use policy, and if I messed it up, then I'm glad it's deleted. Have a lovely day. -FisherQueen (Talk) 20:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(blocked "User:I LOVE TO SUCK COCK" anononly,nocreate with an expiry time of indefinite: Me too)

You have my undying respect. For all time. And then some. Pumeleon^T 10:41, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As an aside, I'd request a checkuser on that user, and the similarly named users you recently have blocked. My bet is that they're all socks of one another, block the IP from account creation. Pumeleon^T 10:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

20:40, March 29, 2007 Redvers (Talk | contribs | block) blocked "I LOVE TO SUCK COCK (contribs)" (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite (Me too) (unblock)

I admire your professionalism...I really do. --  Netsnipe  ►  15:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Redvers, I don't mean to tell you what to do or anything, you obviously are a much more experienced admin that I, but I noticed that you don't put the {{unb}} tag on the user pages of users whom you indef. block for inappropriate usernames. I've done it for the most recent two that you've blocked, but I was just wandering why you didn't put it on? Just curious, not a criticism or anything :) SGGH 15:21, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I like your answer :D I shall bare that in mind... thanks SGGH 15:47, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i was just creating a page on wikipedia about our company Endless Pools - it says it was deleted because of copyright

it is our content we created —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pappas215 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for letting me know buddy. BTW my RCP script malfunctioning till I start my vandal hunting work. Ya man even Chaser tried to sort that out[4], but fails File:Cry-tpvgames.gif hmmm but I'm not gonna stop my vandal hunting. When I got that prob what I do is simply removing the ?action=edit part from my entry cos I don't know how to sort this prob.[5] If you think that you can debug my RCP script, please be my guest. You know till this moment, I was beaten by vandals 13 times --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ ^{walkie-talkie} 19:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why was this deleted? It is/was no more spam than Mercury Computer Systems page. I live in MS, and they are a very well known and respected company in this state. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbmays (talk • contribs)

I feel like you've made a bad call on deciding this was a delete, as I would have gone with a no-consensus. Basically, I feel that you've decided that the Post-Gazette is a not reputable source, which isn't our business to decide as wikipedia editors, or if it is, why not assume the London Times or Boston Globe aren't reliable sources. The Post-Gazette's writers have put their professional credibility behind the stories they post, and as it is a paper with 200k+ circulation, so I believe that makes their professional credibility enough for our standards. The articles quoted this group by name, and thats enough for me, and I'm a deletionist. But whatever, I don't really care that much. I'm just registering my disagreement with your decision. Cornell Rockey 01:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Sir;

I wonder if I could ask your opinion on a recently created article concerning British Radio.

The above article concerns me on a number of grounds: It comes over as a self-promoting piece singing the praises of one of the consortia bidding for a new UK DAB national licence, that

, and become an article concerning the entire application process and all bids concerned.

I just wanted a second opinion before I proposed the move (partly in anticipation of any opposition). There's no response as yet, but I thought I'd gauge the opinions on some others first. You may also be interested in the subject matter.

Thanks very much, -- Fursday 04:04, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed, and at

WP:RM, thanks for your help! -- Fursday 21:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply

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I am sorry, I believe I forgot the licensing information and that is why it was deleted. Could you please undelete it so I may add one? Thank you. --TV-VCR watch 04:12, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the licensing information :) --TV-VCR watch 07:27, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Redvers,

you suggest that I should re-license this picture, however, I think GFDL-self is in fact the correct license for it. I have just asked my colleague, Stephan Wagner, who is the author of that picture, to resubmit it himself under GFDL-self. I realise now that we should have done it this way right away, but Stephan wasn't available to do the upload himself when I was writing the corresponding article yesterday, so I took the liberty to upload it for him.

Sorry for the confusion and I do hope this settles it.

Kind regards

Rob-kaiser 08:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize, then - I'm new to this! :)

If it's ok, I'll work on rewriting it and submit a new one, hopefully more informative! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbmays (talk • contribs)

Are you going to delete '

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Are you getting paid to not delete articles? I want a piece of that action! Where do I sign up? -FisherQueen (Talk) 18:35, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I find this very disturbing that something as small as the legitimate article I posted was removed while your "so called" online Encylopedia keeps lists of pornstars and their biograpghies? I have better things to do with my time and money than to waste it here. I am removing myself from your presence. There is no longer a need to respond as I will no longer see it. I know you believe you are always right and others are always wrong. I'm sure you will have some kind of self-assurance messge to post so as not to upset your mental stability.Edetech 04:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I was researching an image that was deleted and happened upon your page: User:Redvers/Your image. That is just awesome :) Shell ^babelfish 22:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I got a message to say that I have been blocked from editing for you for vandalism. This must be a mistake. I have certainly never vandalized a page and have only made constructive additions to a few pages. Please can we sort this out.

Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bjorn Maritz (talk • contribs).