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Sanaag
Dear Middayexpress
I was wondring, why do you keep deleting my hard work in the article of Sanaag region and Puntland–Somaliland dispute ?
- For the same reason explained (and already linked to) here. In a nutshell, you used both partisan Somaliland links & non-neutral wording. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 15:11, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Well Im new to this, but let me understand what you just said "you used both partisan Somaliland links& non-neutral wording".
so you mean I cant use anything that starts with "Somaliland" or so to prove my point, however that does not explain why you edited the Demographics of Sanaag, the explanation of Somaliland grade district system as it shows clearly in your own refreence
you also seem to not mention key factors to the capture of Las Anod when it also shows clearly in your own refrence No 14 in Somaliland-puntland dispute. also one of your main refrences no 7 is outdated and does not show the areas that Khtumoo state controls which is the western and mid of Sool region and a large chunk of Puntlands "Maakir" stat.
there is a lot of things that i want to talk to you about, i will fix what i can and come back to you later.
Regards
- Sure you are. At any rate, everything will have to be discussed and agreed on beforehand. I'm sure User:Hadraa wouldn't mind helping with this... Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 17:14, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
References
Please do references correctly. Look at others already in the article and follow the same pattern. I'm getting tired of fixing your refs. Bgwhite (talk) 06:09, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Im sorry, didnt know Someone was cleaning after me! BTW what is wrong with my refs?, it is in MLA format.
Copyvios
Dear Middayexpress
why did you erase the Demographics of the city of El Afwayne? it is not a "copyvio" as I am very sure Habar Jeclo live in this area
same thing with the construction of Burco-Erigavo road, it is not "copvio" I write it down my self and and cited it with a nuteral valid reference
and about the Demography of Erigavo, which is at the moment primarly inhabitant by Habar Yoonis Scuad Muse sub clan of Issaq, yes it was a copyvio but it had a valid reference that explains the current compostion of Eregavo. but yet you chosse to ignore it and state that Warsangali lives there although they pretty much do not have a precense in the city any more and i am sure more than 90% of theme left to Eastern Sanaag. could you lead me to the website you that explains your reference which i think it is a book right?
And I do not understand why did you changed the Demographics of Heis? wich is a small coastal town inhabitant by Habar Jeclo sub clan of Issaq same story with Armale and Garadag which also have large populations of Habar Younis and Habar Jeclo who intermarry with other Darood clans in the area from Erigavo all the way to Yobe in eastern Sanaag by the Habar Yoonis and From Caynabo to Xudun by Habar Jeclo in mid Sool
if it was a copyvio i would understand, but you seem to insist on Erasing or making up Demographics of people how reside in western and mid Sanaag and Sool and just label theme as "disputed areas" while in easterm Sanaag you openly disclose on the Demographics. and your reference is a book i cant really examine it could you lead me to a webpage that containes the info's of your solid referenece?
regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.164.177.144 (talk) 17:42, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Sanaag and Sool cites
Dear Middayexpress why did you erase the Demographics of the city of El Afwayne? it is not a "copyvio" as I am very sure Habar Jeclo live in this area same thing with the construction of Burco-Erigavo road, it is not "copvio" I write it down my self and and cited it with a nuteral valid reference and about the Demography of Erigavo, which is at the moment primarly inhabitant by Habar Yoonis Scuad Muse sub clan of Issaq, yes it was a copyvio but it had a valid reference that explains the current compostion of Eregavo. but yet you chosse to ignore it and state that Warsangali lives there although they pretty much do not have a precense in the city any more and i am sure more than 90% of theme left to Eastern Sanaag. could you lead me to the website you that explains your reference which i think it is a book right? And I do not understand why did you changed the Demographics of Heis? wich is a small coastal town inhabitant by Habar Jeclo sub clan of Issaq same story with Armale and Garadag which also have large populations of Habar Younis and Habar Jeclo who intermarry with other Darood clans in the area from Erigavo all the way to Yobe in eastern Sanaag by the Habar Yoonis and From Caynabo to Xudun by Habar Jeclo in mid Sool if it was a copyvio i would understand, but you seem to insist on Erasing or making up Demographics of people how reside in western and mid Sanaag and Sool and just label theme as "disputed areas" while in easterm Sanaag you openly disclose on the Demographics. and your reference is a book i cant really examine it could you lead me to a webpage that containes the info's of your solid referenece? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reer Woqooyi (talk • contribs) 17:44, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- I clearly wrote above that given the contentious nature of the SSC region, all edits will have to be discussed and agreed to beforehand and only then implemented. However, you made no such effort. Instead, you literally copied and pasted material from here. That's indeed a copyright violation. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 17:58, 30 June 2014 (UTC)]
but Middayexpress, you also did not discuss anything with anybody and yet made countless articles (about the counterversial SSC) based on your refrences. just few days ago, in Puntland–Somaliland dispute page, you added this paragraph "On 12 June 2014, heavily armed Somaliland..." without any dicussions or consult with me. you did not even ask my approval since i am the one how paste the source in the first place. and you came and toke advantage on that. I did not erase anything since the source i paste and your new addtion of Info still match each other. Even if it was a "copy paste" i did not play around or erase your work like you did.
the same thing with the paragraph I made above it. I did not have any opposed respond from you so i though since the source is correct you will not interfare. but you did in many of my articles of cities west and mid Sanaag, this is double standards that I can not tolorate . Unless you dont find any thing wrong with the reference, I strongly recommend you do not erase it. The link is well cited in MLA format it does not violate any copyright I mentioned the name of the webpage and its URL with the date and everything. I even used your own way of reporting from a well known nuteral reference not a "copy paste" as you just said. So what is the issue?
you on the other, made biased statments based on a specific time frame articles, for example in the case of Erigavo it was a mix city of many tribes including Darood and Issaq in the 70s and 80s (a non majority exist). Once the city fall down in the hands of SNM rebels in 1991, a war broke up between the Issaq clans that made most Darood clans and other smaller tribes move east thus, only Issaq stayed at the city. Once the peace have been made even more Issaq came in and Settle till today today. However, you choosed to make the Warsangli a majority by stating that they are "well represented" and than mentioning a existance of Issaq like if they are a minority living on the outskirts of the city while the truth is the other way around (only of course if your sources is talking about the Demog of the 13 century Warsangali's Sultan era) on that i do not have any Info and strongly suspect of its validity. I am sure you have read my reference throughly, unless you correct me I think it is save to say that the city is inhabitant by wide majority of Issaq.
based on my well doucumented and valid reference the cities in western Sanaag is inhabitant by a pure majority of Issaq tribes as from 1993 and afterwards. I added the demography section to it only to be erased later by you with no valid reason other than "outdated or copyvio". On the case of Armale and Gargadag those citeis have a large population of Issaq tribes so if they are a not majority they make at least half of the population.
there is another matter of you erasing the construction of Burco-Erigavo road. please explain the reasons behinde your move.
If you do not responde in 48 hours i will consider it approval on my statements, and thus, I hope you put it back as it was and never erase it again.
regards
- You couldn't possibly know what I supposedly did or did not do unless of course you are not really a new user at all. At any rate, per WP:BRD, each contentious point on the SSC territorial dispute will have to be discussed and agreed to beforehand on the relevant article's talk page. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 14:38, 1 July 2014 (UTC)]
SSC region Dispute
Dear Middayexpress why did you erase the Demographics of the city of El Afwayne? As I am very sure Habar Jeclo live in this area, same thing with the construction of Burco-Erigavo road, it is not "copvio" I write it down my self and and cited it with a nuteral valid reference
and about the Demography of Erigavo, which is at the moment primarly inhabitant by Habar Yoonis sub clan of Issaq, yes it was a "copy paste" but it had a valid reference that explains the current compostion of Eregavo. but yet you choossed to ignore it and state that Warsangali lives there although they pretty much do not have a precense in the city any more and i am sure more than 90% of theme left to Eastern Sanaag. Could you lead me to the website you that explains your reference which i think it is a book right? And I do not understand why did you changed the Demographics of Heis? wich is a small coastal town inhabitant by Habar Jeclo sub clan of Issaq same story with Armale and Garadag which also have large populations of Habar Younis and Habar Jeclo who intermarry with other Darood clans in the area from Erigavo all the way to Yobe in eastern Sanaag by the Habar Yoonis and From Caynabo to Xudun by Habar Jeclo in mid Sool
if it was a "copy paste" i would understand, but you seem to insist on Erasing or making up Demographics of people how reside in western and mid Sanaag and Sool and just label theme as "disputed areas" while in easterm Sanaag you openly disclose on the Demographics. and your reference is a book i cant really examine it could you lead me to a webpage that containes the info's of your solid referenece? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reer Woqooyi (talk • contribs) 17:44, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- I clearly wrote above that given the contentious nature of the SSC region, all edits will have to be discussed and agreed to beforehand and only then implemented. However, you made no such effort. Instead, you literally copied and pasted material from here. That's indeed a copyright violation. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 17:58, 30 June 2014 (UTC)]
but Middayexpress, you also did not discuss anything with anybody and yet made countless articles (about the counterversial SSC) based on your refrences. just few days ago, in Puntland–Somaliland dispute page, you added this paragraph "On 12 June 2014, heavily armed Somaliland..." without any dicussions or consult with me. you did not even ask my approval since I am the one how paste the source in the first place. and you came and toke advantage on that in a very parstrain way . I did not erase anything since the source I paste and your new addtion of Info still match each other. Even if it was a "copy paste" I did not play around or erase your work like you did to mine.
the same thing with the paragraph I made above it. I did not have any opposed respond from you, so I though since the source is correct you will not interfare. but you did in many of my articles of cities west and mid Sanaag, this is double standards that I can not tolorate
. Unless you dont find any thing wrong with the reference, I strongly recommend you do not erase it. The link is well cited in MLA format it does not violate any copyright I mentioned the name of the webpage and its URL with the date and everything. I even used your own way of reporting from a well known nutreal reference not a "copy paste" as you just said. So what is the issue?
you on the other hand , made biased statments based on a specific time frame articles, for example in the case of Erigavo it was a mix city of many tribes including Darood and Issaq in the 70s and 80s (a non majority exist). Once the city fall down in the hands of SNM rebels in 1991, a war broke up between the Issaq clans that made most Darood clans and other smaller tribes move east thus, only Issaq stayed at the city, Once the peace have been made even more Issaq came in and Settle till today. However, you choosed to make the Warsangli a majority by stating that they are "well represented" (while they do not exist or have a very small pressence) and than mentioning a existance of Issaq like if they are a minority living on the outskirts of the city while the truth is the other way around (only of course if your sources is talking about the Demog of the 13 century Warsangali's Sultan era) on that i do not have any Info and strongly suspect of its validity. I am sure you have read my reference throughly, unless you correct me I think it is save to say that the city is inhabitant by wide majority of Issaq.
based on my well doucumented and valid reference the cities in western Sanaag is inhabitant by a pure majority of Issaq tribes as from 1993 and afterwards. I added the demography section to it only to be erased later by you with no valid reason other than "outdated or copyvio". On the case of Armale and Gargadag those cities have a large population of Issaq tribes so if they are a not majority they make at least half of the population. there is another matter of you erasing the construction of Burco-Erigavo road in Erigavo page. please explain the reasons behinde your move.
above theme all, even if my citing was wrong and ill cited while it is true, you have a moral abligation of corrcting it and display its point of view, unless of course, you want to mislead the average reader by the faults Info that was there for a long time.
If you do not respond in 48 hours i will consider it approval on my statements, and thus, I hope you put it back as it was and never erase it again.
regards
- Wrong. I am under no obligation (moral or otherwise) of correcting your own edits for you; that would actually be a favor on my part. My only obligation is to remove the copyright violating text per WP:COPYVIO. For the rest, given the contentious nature of the SSC territorial dispute, all edits will have to be discussed and agreed to beforehand on the relevant article's talk page. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 14:38, 1 July 2014 (UTC)]
- all right than Middayexpress, given the contentious nature of the SSC territorial dispute, all edits will have to be discussed and agreed to beforehand on the relevant article's talk page (including yours). After all, erasing some ones hard work is not that hard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reer Woqooyi (talk • contribs) 15:57, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- I wrote that before noticing this. Unfortunately, additional measures will have to be taken now. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 16:07, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
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July 2014
Hello, I'm Trlovejoy. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Khatumo State without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! TRL (talk) 19:19, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. Widr (talk) 19:39, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
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DearBbb23 Your accusations against me of using multiple accounts are NOT true. I have never signed in different accounts ( I may forget to signed in couple times but when I noticed I logged in with my ONLY account), yes (since I have no experience in editing)I may asked people over the net to come and try to add info's and help clarify the extremely biased articles wrote by the so called "Middayexpress" however, they all turned me down and you can check my talk page with "Middayexpress" and the webpage he provided than scroll down to reach the comments. That is why I demand you unblock my account as soon as possible and punish that Middayexpress for sitting up this trap against me.Reer Woqooyi (talk) 04:29, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
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- Note: this user has now had an IP address blocked for evading this block. the panda ₯’ 19:47, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Oh, all right than dont bother I have other ways to go through your block. You can erase this account I wont log in again.
- We cannot delete accounts. Finding "other ways" would be a violation of the rules you agreed to on this privately-owned website. So no, don't do that the panda ₯’ 20:52, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
I can still edit without account but i need to upload pictures, if you insist on blocking my a current account will you interfere if i made another one.
- You're not permitted to edit without an account - you agreed to that rule. You also don't need to upload pictures (especially since most pictures should be uploaded to Commons, not to Wikipedia). Yes, you're also not permitted to create a new account - another rule you agreed to. Go to your original account, read WP:OFFER ...but you have to start being honest first the panda ₯’ 09:34, 18 July 2014 (UTC)]
Reer Woqooyi (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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Apparently, I am blocked due to the charge of Sock puppetry which means that I made multiple accounts to mislead or disrupted the articles. However I am sure I have a one and only account which is “Reer Woqooyi” I think that when I turn off my PC and start it again my account logsout automatically so, after the PC recovers and I open Wiki to edit some pages I tend to forget to Log in however, when I noticed it I log in (after I edit a page) this have been falsely used against me as having 2 account. And yes I asked people on a blog to come and edit some pages (although they declined) I am not proud of that but I assure you it will never happen again. There is no need for continuing blocking me. I know the wrong things I did and it shall never happen again. If I unblocked I will contribute to wiki by adding reliable info’s regarding Somalia in general and north Somalia in specific, I just learned how to use reftools, so no more vandalism or ill- cited references. ps: be aware that I have edited without an account two articles before reading your message. as I write this appeal I have not edited any articles in Wiki. Best regards
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Reer Woqooyi (talk) 17:42, 18 July 2014 (UTC)