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Please do not add commentary, your own point of view, or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Feminazi. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:30, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
If I'm not supposed to add a commentary to my edit, why is there a comment field? This isnt a point of wiew, but an observation. Besides, you did the very same thing yourself as you reverted my edit. If "feminazi" is used by someone as a pejorative directed against all feminists, these "someone" are a minority comparable to the feminazis themselves. Without the distinction I added the article appears biased and sabotaged by individuals that fit the true definition of the term. Therefore, I will re-revert your revert and add a suitable reference to my edit. Should you revert it again, it will not change the truth, only tell the truth about the editor. Rolling Phantom (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- You are not supposed to add commentary to the article. Your "suitable reference" is Quora? There are few worse sources, and I say that as a regular contributor to Quora, that you could have chosen. As the article's references establish, the term is used to attack all kinds of feminists, from the actual radicals to boring old married guys like myself. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:28, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
I ask again, if I am not suppose to add commentary to the article, why are you doing the exact same thing yourself? Would you prefer I use this: [1] as a reference instead? As I said, the term "feminazi" is not normally used to attack all kinds of feminists (other than by a similar type of individuals), and certainly not a boring old married guy or woman that just wants gender equality. There are just some 974 thousand google hits for "feminazi vs feminist" that proves your statement wrong and makes the article look ridicolous in its political correctness, but I guess that isnt enough to prove my point then. Sorry that I tried. Rolling Phantom (talk) 00:11, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
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With all due respect sir, that is just an excuse and even a pretty bad one. I can see no reason to label my edit as "original research" other than that you personally dont want to regard the embedded source as "reliable". What is a reliable source to you? Im Norwegian and know as a fact that we celebrated Yule in Scandinavia long before christianity. I can try to find a more scientific source if you wish. As for all sources on the subject, there are quite many... Rolling Phantom (talk) 00:05, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- Feel free to read the last paragraph of the lede. It starts, "The celebratory customs associated in various countries with Christmas have a mix" as what you're discussing is already well-sourced in the article and discussed in the opening paragraphs. If you want it to be more prominent, you'll have to gain WP:CONSENSUS to do so. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:58, 29 November 2019 (UTC)]
It does, but the short description in the introduction which I edited only covers a portion of what the midwinter fiest now coined as "Christmas" really is. This is one of the most if not the most important part of any article. That christmas is the celebration of Jesus' birth does not in any way tell the full truth about the subject. Many pagan cultures had celebrations around the same time of the year and continued the tradition after the introduction of christianity. The priests simply couldnt stop that, and as a smart move chose to join when they couldnt beat. Pagan customs were mixed with christian elements and became the "christmas" of today. The jewish holiday "hanukka" is also around the same time so mr. Christ chose a strategic time to be born on. Go figure.
The intro implies that the celebration of "christmas", other than in the name, was introduced by christianity. That simply isnt the case. Rolling Phantom (talk) 00:05, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Oh and do read the two Norwegian articles on the subject, in Norwegian Bokmål and Norwegian Nynorsk. Google Translate[1] will provide a close to accurate translation. Just paste the URL and click the translated URL that comes up in your language.
Rolling Phantom (talk) 00:11, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- Edit warring over this will not result in you getting your preffered version in because of the way WP:3RR works. Discuss on talk page please. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:03, 30 November 2019 (UTC)]
- Edit warring over this will not result in you getting your preffered version in because of the way
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What? So a source that should be reliable enough isnt valid to replace YOUR preferred version? Who are you to decide that? Are you some kind of "over editor"? If Wikipedia has such ones Id like to find one. Please tell me more. Rolling Phantom (talk) 01:11, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Besides, you act like a couple of smart guys. My edit was reverted first so normally you would reach the 3 revert limit first. But there are two of you. If I revert one more time, maybe a third comes along. But then maybe someone higher up will look into the matter? Rolling Phantom (talk) 01:20, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- Did you even read what I wrote? Let me make it clear to you: THE CONTENT YOU WANT TO MAKE PROMINENT IN THE FIRST SENTENCE IS ALREADY ADDRESSED IN THE LEDE. It doesn't need to be added again and if you want to change consensus, you'll have to discuss it on the article's talk page. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:31, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- The no.wiki article reflects your view because you changed it yesterday to reflect your view. Doug Weller talk 16:34, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
I sure did and intended to correct the English page as well. I have also corrected articles that described religious faith as truth. The difference is that the Norwegian moderators thank me for the edit, while the English ones revert it. Rolling Phantom (talk) 00:15, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Christmas; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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