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Preity Zinta

Hello Shshshsh. How are you? I think the article Preity Zinta is ready for the FA status. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 09:29, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well it was ready a long time ago of course. But I fully understand why Shahid might not want to repropose it

$1,000,000? 10:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Dunno don't know what happened there. Anyway you;ll be pleased to know I seem to have patched things up with both editors -both said they were also in a bad mood and over reacted. It can make you feel pretty terrible when a few people react like that . Hope you are well

$1,000,000? 16:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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LOL I know but that's what people think from time to time. I've been pretty active on here today , created some articles on Albanian painters then an Aussie jockey from Melbourne

$1,000,000? 16:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Oh dear o my o my. It happening again lol! A newbie User:Coccyx Bloccyx sends me a "welcome to wikipedia message" and tries to tell me what it is. I provide adequate references which are clearly given on the Official Statistics site, and even go as far as to add an infobox and still he doesn't believe it. I reply and say is there some kind of joke and he replies witha WP:civil message. Man what do I do to attract these people lol!!

Anyway I may be creating some Bollywood film articles later, if there are any in particular you want started throw a rock down the volcano and I'll see what I can do. Saludos!!!

$1,000,000? 09:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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I know I don't know why he did that either-his name sounds like a throat infection. Hey I'm feeling Bollywood today, I'll try to get some articles blue linked today in some of the filmographies. Such saw a Dhoom 2 interview on youtube -aahhhh I find Bipasha soooo sexy!!!! Then I saw her dancing in this dazzling green gem costume and I thought. Woww!!!

$1,000,000? 10:25, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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So, User:Epbr123 did a tremendous job! Let's see if others weigh in.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:05, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ever heard of

$1,000,000? 18:58, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Oh I;m not talking about Dwaipayanc, He is doing a great job with it, its just to see "potentially problematic references" brought up. I would sincerely hope by now any issues will have been sorted, so have you heard of

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19:06, 11 April 2008 (UTC) Also did you hear that
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19:13, 11 April 2008 (UTC) Well lets hope it can do it this time. Alain Robert is probably the craziest man on the planet. See him
here. As if climbing a skyscraper without a rope is bad enough, he is climbing a 1000ft glass structure with tiny little room for placing hands or feet. Incredible!!!
$1,000,000? 19:22, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Ah did you have a read of

$1,000,000? 19:28, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Yes lol I had a crazily diverse day yesterday - articles like

$1,000,000? 19:52, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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London Marathon day today. 26.3 miles!!! I admire the old people who run it to raise money for charity. A 101 year old man is running it -this is incredible I think. Hey reckon i can fill in the red links for

$1,000,000? 09:30, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Everything OK?

$1,000,000? 15:08, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Yey thats great news! I saw

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16:08, 13 April 2008 (UTC) Yes thats a good idea. That article needs a lot of work.
$1,000,000? 16:13, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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I know I hadn't really taken notice of her before. She's looking lovely these days she didn't so much back then. She's got a lovely smile and personality (and voice too).

$1,000,000? 16:17, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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$1,000,000? 16:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Yes as long as there is plenty of info available for "reliable" sites which is often the problem with many of them. I'll give you a hand every now and then if you like.

$1,000,000? 16:25, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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I say go for it for FA once you finish any outstanding issues regarding phrasing you've already identified. Those are the only real concerns I can imagine, and if you want I can at least try to help on any specific matters of phrasing which come to mind either before then or once the nomination is made. John Carter (talk) 16:29, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The subject and verb don't match particularly well in the proposal, but "The column was a success, and became one of the site's top 10 in readership" would work. John Carter (talk) 17:19, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There the question is the phrase "on the day". If the column was read only on that single day, that phrase would be relevant. If it were posted for more than a day, then it might be problematic to focus on only the single day. I'm guessing, not knowing the subject, that it was posted on the net for more than a day, so that clause "on the day" might be reasonably removed. John Carter (talk) 17:29, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Concern on Box Office data

Once again, I think IBOS and BoxOfficeIndia references are going to be problematic. Statements such as "biggest hit of the year", or, commercial failure, can be supported with references from other sources such as newspapers. But, regarding figures (million sof rupees etc), I seriously doubt if those 2 sites would be beyond doubt. If needed, figures may need to be removed.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:58, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppeteer?

I've no idea who is a sockpuppeteer or what personal disputes are involved here, but you shouldn't let such matters cloud the actual issue. The fact is that if historians all agree on something it can be presented as an unproblematic fact. Otherwise we'd have absurd sentences like "Many historians assert that Michelanelo was the name of an Italian artist". Paul B (talk) 13:40, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Need money

Ah I still haven't found anything decent. I;ve been in contact with Tim Rohrer -google him, but I get the impression he is a con man and wouldn't trust him an inch. Its difficult to get into internet marketing. Perhaps I'll have to get a boring 9-5 office job soon enough, sometimes I wished I'd have stuck at law. I could be raking it in by now. I wish I was on commission to edit wikipedia. Aside from writing and the arts I've always been interested in business but I have no idea what I can do to start.

$1,000,000? 15:19, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Didn't he learn from before lol??

$1,000,000? 15:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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LOL LOL. Hehe you make me laugh sometimes friend. Its a FILM FILM FILM. Not a history. LOL

$1,000,000? 17:11, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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"I'm fed up dealing with uneducated, unkind, POV pushers and teenagers who don't really know what should and what shouldn't be included ". How many times can you recall that I've said this EXACTLY this to you. You are so right. This is exactly the problem with wikipedia. Glad your protection request was granted. Nobody would listen to my request about the tibet article. Every day Chinese people try to use it as a political strategical command centre

$1,000,000? 17:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Just imagine what goes on, on pages that aren't so popular or watched. I am all for free access and contribution but I strongly believe this should be within reason with certain restrictions. Preventing IP addresses from editing for a start and a trial period for new acount holders to allow them to edit. This will neve rbe granted but this is THE most important thing that could be done to secure and improve the situation on this site.

$1,000,000? 17:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Ahh I've just been reminiscing the 1990s. Music and TV was so much better 10-15 years ago during the

$1,000,000? 19:33, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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I tell who I like.

$1,000,000? 21:05, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Shahid have a read of

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Well I thought it was fantastic story. I watched it last night and was in awe

$1,000,000? 18:35, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Improving Bollywood articles

Shahid, remember the idea of improving the [top] Bollywood actors' pages, which Blofeld earlier recommended? Anyways, I think we should start working on some of them with Blofeld. I know that you are busy with

02:47, 15 April 2008

I totally relate the situation you're in. That is how I felt when I was in University. Don't worry, I am not in a rush, though I will start working on some articles, preferably new actors. Later, when you are free, we can start working on actors like Shahrukh, Salman, etc. Hey Shahid, I needed to ask you something. Do you know how to request a peer review?? I would like to do one for Kapoor later on... --Bollywood Dreamz Talk 16:30, 15 April 2008
I am hoping that Kapoor's article at least reaches a GA. According to you, what needs to improve?? --Bollywood Dreamz Talk 17:03, 15 April 2008
What do you mean by "the article doesn't flow as well as before"?? --Bollywood Dreamz Talk 17:24, 15 April 2008
Oh, I see.... --Bollywood Dreamz Talk 18:42, 15 April 2008
Yeah, we are allowed to do that but before we do that, we have to e-mail Wikipedia's OTRS system at "[email protected]", where we include the image's link and the ticket number (2008030310010794). Take a look at this. You see the thing above the file history... that will be the permission ticket from OTRS, showing that you asked OTRS to verify the image. Then, you can upload the image onto Commons and don't forget to add the "{{
OTRS pending}}" tag and add the permission ticket, where he/she would include the link of your e-mail. I know it sounds complicated but if you need help just let me know. Regards --Bollywood Dreamz Talk
17:22, 18 April 2008
Sounds complicated huh?? LOL... Anyways, don't worry, I'll send them for you. What are friends for?? ;). You plan to include all of them on her page...?? BTW, I love this and this one. In the second one, she looks so GOOOOOOODDDDDDDD!!! LOL.. :) --Bollywood Dreamz Talk 17:32, 18 April 2008
Thanks buddy, it is so kind of you to say that. Just to let you know that since the OTRS is a busy system, it will take a while until they remove the "{{
OTRS pending}}" tag and add the permissions ticket. I will let you know when you can use them. --Bollywood Dreamz Talk
17:51, 18 April 2008

New messages

Yes you also. Sometimes I miss a message or can't find it!! I usually though check the editing history of my talk page to check I haven't had more than one message

$1,000,000? 18:50, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Ah already some scholar has removed an entire paragraph of Parfitt's article I created. Probably better to read

$1,000,000? 19:00, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Yep not for long though another ten minutes or so. I'm glad I managed to get the Kenyan cities re-organized tonight. I left some of the biggest ones until last Nigeria, Congo, Tunisia and Egypt are still on my list. Then infoboxes/maps can be added and when they are all sorted, we can begin building new content. I also watched a documentary last night on how the chinese are trying to take over the Congo by offering to develop their country in return for their minerals. Weird isn't it China in the congo. I find the chinese very concerning -I think the world has to watch out for them in the future. China may try to do a Blofeld and dominate the world. They already take up 1/6 of the world in population. But that Lost Ark of the Covenant was a really amazing watch. If I could get hold of some books on ancient stuff I'd try to write some full length articles, this is when I feel at my best when I am putting something scholarly into wikipedia but so much needs doing with our crappy stubs and red links that I doubt I will get a chance to real soon. I'm sure we could get gold of some nice books to write good articles on Amitabh and Rekha too

$1,000,000? 22:03, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Yes its done I sorted DRC and Nigeria in one day.

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20:12, 17 April 2008 (UTC) No, the highest is about 173,000 but he has been here since around 2003. I currently have nearly 142,000 so thats third I think.
$1,000,000? 21:23, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Yes I think I will soon enough. You see I was very late getting the Internet in my house. I never had it when I was a teenager (I barely stayed in the house between 7-18 and even did much of my revising outside!!). I;ve only had it since late 2005, and now I have a newer flat screen dell PC, but wikipedia I see as a tremendous privelage to be able to edit something so massive and develop it even further. This is why I try to get as much done as possible and as quickly as possible because I believe we are only in the baby stages of wikipedia's development. I can't see anything ousting wikipedia while the Internet is here and I remain confident it will grow increasingly and get better.

$1,000,000? 21:37, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Likewise my friend.

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21:46, 17 April 2008 (UTC) For instance I just started
$1,000,000? 21:54, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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LOL there we go

$1,000,000? 18:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Yes I thought "tongan wikipedia" was cool! Meanwhile I;ve just created a beast

$1,000,000? 21:44, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Yes, the busier I am the happier I am! What I;d like to see some day is all of these articles fully developed and full of images as most of these places have never been seen before in the "west". Gradually we can change this and revolutionize the world! All those Borats out there -get snapping like the Japanese!!! Get those photos coming in! (I'm half kidding of course, I don't want you to think I'm racist) It is also a great need to break down language barriers and get everything into english.

Buenos Noches!!!!

$1,000,000? 21:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Re: Zinta BO

Hey, no no, I could not reply you because I was not regularly attending Wikipedia for 2-3 days. Your rationale is perfectly ok :) Let's see what happens in FAC. When do you plan for the FAC?--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:27, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PZ looks good. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:24, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I think Hindhawk is Itihaaskar. See my report at my talk. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:24, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much Blnguyen for the great news,;) and for the comment re PZ. BTW have you heard that she is the owner of the Mohali Twenty20 :franchise cricket team in the IPL? ShahidTalk2me 10:26, 17 April 2008 (UTC) Yeah I did notice that, although I don't like T20. Well, at least the fact that she is in the same team as Yuvraj Singh has amused some people. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:00, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chak De cleanup

Great job cleaning up the

Chak De India
article. Thanks for your help with it - particularly linking all of the dates. I wasn't aware of that MOS rule. I made a few minor changes, but nothing major.

I would like to discuss your edit to the cast list. The list was previously organized alphabetically by first name which is why Vidya was at the bottom.

Take a look at this interview with Shimit Amin (cited in the plot summary) -rediff asks, "The promos seem to reveal -- correct me if I'm wrong -- this is a 'no-heroine' film. Isn't that a big risk?" and Amin answers, "Yes, there are no heroines. That was something we didn't require because of the way the story was carved out." http://www.rediff.com/movies/2007/aug/07shimit.htm

Since we can only post according to references, this would seem to preclude putting Vidya first. My only other suggestion would be to find a reference justifying putting her first. If not, I think we should put her back down at the bottom to maintain alphabetical order.

Again, good work. -Classicfilms (talk) 00:56, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Impressive argument and fair. She is also credited as the first Chak De girl on the IMDB page. On the official site however, "Preeti Sabarwal" is listed as first in the character description section and the actress who portrays her, Sagarika Ghatge, receives top billing. So I went ahead and moved the name to the bottom of the list for a few reasons. Lists sometimes get out of control and difficult to manage if there isn't a means to organize it. We don't have to stay with alph. by first name if you can suggest a better way - I just think there should be some organizing structure. Secondly, the article I cited reflects a larger theme of the film which is the idea of unity among the characters, something which was reflected for example when the entire group of 16 won the best supporting actress award. Since this is the case, the WP should reflect the intentions of the filmmakers.
I hope you continue to work on the page since you have a lot of experience with film articles. You are right it still needs a great deal of development and I hope even more people eventually become involved since that is what makes for a successful article. Regards, -Classicfilms (talk) 15:23, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Riya Sen

Riya Sen should be ready for another go at GAN. Would you care to take a look and leave your comments on the talk page? Aditya(talkcontribs) 15:46, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked over it its improved a lot since I last looked and it; I've made some changes including a new image. I think it needs a good bit of copy editing to be honest. Some of the phrases and sentences are quite awkward and will need complete altering.

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"Riya Sen, since joining Bollywood, has become a representative of the aspirations of younger people of India by way of her clothing style, kissing scenes and outgoing manners" -this is far too generalized and POV however much of a model she is. All the stuff on the glitzy parties and bikinis. Much of that reads like blog and will have to be seriously cut and reworded

$1,000,000? 18:23, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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I know. The problem is that many of these claims are referenced as if it is a solid fact. There are always different ways of looking at something but even if the actress is a popular culture icon and is adored and copied by millions across India generalised comments MUST be avoided as there will be many, many who aren't even slightly influenced by Riya Sen. The media section is the most problematic for me. I would also think about rewriting the acting section to include the on Hindi films in with it. I think she has done enough non Hindi films to make her a credible actress in other Indian film industries, I would suggest just writing her career in one section but I can see how some might find it easier this way.

Meanwhile I have just started

Kalyan minaret
. A fine piece of architecture. Hopefully there is some info to add to it!

Hey I've got a new computer desk in pine wood; its like being at a different computer!! Its looks fit for a King!!. its a lot higher with the speakers at the sides!!

$1,000,000? 18:51, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Well thankyou Mr. Shahid. Officially though I'm slightly duller than Sharon Stone who has an IQ of 154! Intelligence and attractivness is a deadly combination don't you think. Many intelligent people tend to look like they are made out of steel like

$1,000,000? 19:12, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Looks promising I think I can expand that uzbek minaret article

$1,000,000? 19:16, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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I've seen much evidence that she is a businesswomen in many areas. I would try to compile what you can and see if there is enough for a new section. $76 million deals are pretty significant I think

$1,000,000? 19:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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I just find it so amazing that sombody in Eastern Australia can see articles like [[]]

$1,000,000? 21:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Its amazing. I can't believe even like

$1,000,000? 22:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Ah I have such fond childhood memories of these places.

St Fagans National History Museum
is another one. Loved that place as a kid with all the centuries old style buildings and that.

$1,000,000? 22:12, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Wow I just love Indian architecture. I love those buildings with the pillars -awesome!! In fact one of my favourite Bond locations was in India, when they showed the Taj Mahal and the

$1,000,000? 09:30, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Cool. I'm not feeling much like editing today. Perhaps I'll edit a few films but I feel lazy today . You like

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11:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC) Good taste!
$1,000,000? 12:14, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Did you about

$1,000,000? 12:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Yes I'm not sure it is connected to the film set, but its a very high percentage. But the evidence is there with places like Chernobyl and Hiroshima though isn't it. Any idea which films you want to start today?

$1,000,000? 12:28, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Go for it! Necesito comer mi Cena de Domingo y entonces quiero dormir que un bebe por algunos horas. Estoy muy cansado!!

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