• Haven't spoken in ages!
• How's your projects going? Any other GA candidates to embark upon?
• I've got a month of free time, any projects I need to help with?

Universal Hero (talk) 19:37, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply, I've kept rather low key for the last couple of months, but I'm raring to make a comeback. I'm just cleaning up the South Indian articles, which have been vandalised. I'll reply, with my aims in a couple of days. Universal Hero (talk) 22:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why'd you remove the image? gren グレン 08:50, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see what happened. The anonymous user messed up the image and then you removed it thinking it was dead. Okay, everything is now in its right place. gren グレン 09:01, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Meester. Can you think of any more Bollywood specific topics such as awards etc that can be linked in the Bollywood template? Also I would very much like to see an article on the

It would be great to get hold of some books like this I must admit

Just been looking at buying some bulk lots and collectons on ebay to resell and I cam across this. I bet you;d love that!! -although I'd imagine shipping to Aus would be impossible and cost about as much as the item itself

OMG. Shania here And O my in September 2007 [1] doesn't this woman get better with age?]]]. Shes so beautiful !!!! I love that woman big time!!! Her hair and skin look unreal don't they!!!

Hey spunky is an Aussie term isn't it -you;re turning all Aussie on me!!

Its funny but I was going to suggest using this reference and I find it is already being used!! There does seem evidence to show it is becoming increasingly popular in the US although as i'm not american I couldn't possibly comment on what ethnicity are watching them in the states. I;m sure it isn't entirely just south asian immigrants as is being suggested here. Perhaps you could find some additional sources perhaps to silence them?

Thanks for your comments which helped address MoS issues in the article. -- ¿Amar៛^{Talk to me/My edits} 07:49, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! What do you mean by "what do you thonk about the ... bravery award?" Do you mean about the award article? Or, the mention of the aweard in Zinta article? The mention is fine.--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow!!!! That's great. Wonderful. Unfortunately, it was not added in Portal:India/DYK, I have added it now. I used to be one of the people updating that India DYK regularly, but have not been around for some days now. If you see some India-related DYKs in teh main page DYK section, please try to update it in the India DYK section as well. Again, congrats for the DYK...Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I didn't have the time to look at your edits, because I'm in hurry to catch a train -- I'll be on a vacation till Dec 31. I'm sure your edits would only improve the article. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year in advance. Cheers! utcursch | talk 06:25, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Shahid, I totally agree with you. Thanks for pointing it out. That is why I removed the section and added in the "notes" section for the film Dev that she did the playback singing for the song. Regards --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 03:55, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you amigo. Wish you all the best for 2008!! Regards --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 17:05, 24 December 2007

Time to rejoice, Akki is ranked second on Rediff's list of Top 10 Most Powerful Actors of 2007.[2] =) I know you don't give a damn about these lists but take a look at the rest.[3] It is pretty interesting. Regards --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 17:39, 24 December 2007

Hey Shahid. Hope you had a great Christmas. I sure did. LOL. Anyways, I need your help with something. This is what it reads on Kapoor's page as of now: This led to irreconcilable differences between her parents and resulted in her mother leaving the house along with Kapoor and her sister. as to the previous one: This led to irreconcilable differences between her parents and they decided to separate, resulting in her mother taking her along with her sister. The ref on Kapoor's article as well as other sources indicate that her parents weren't officially divorced, her mother just left the house with her two daughters. I feel that it is important to indicate her relationship between her parents, and her father and her. This is shown in Kapoor's recent interview on Mumbai Mirror I feel that this part of the interview is very important in talking about those things:

What was your financial condition like before Karisma started working?

Mum was always doing something, she single-handedly brought us up. She has a real estate business apart from other small businesses. It was tough. Though my father is also an important factor in my life.

I think you are being too nice to him…

(Pauses) I don't know if I am being too nice. My mum has never imposed her thoughts on us on how to feel about our father. She has the strength to forgive and forget.

Were you getting financial support from the Kapoor clan or were you left alone to fend for yourselves?

We were left alone to fend for ourselves. But now we see more of our father, though we did not see him often in our initial years. We are a family now.

Your parents are back together?

Well, they were never officially divorced. They have been living separately. They never really fought. Now he comes home, we go out for dinners, we are planning a holiday.

Could you help me incorporate some of these info as well as some of her quotes on Kapoor's article. I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks. Regards --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 04:29, 27 December 2007

Hey thanks for your help. The thing you added about her mother is good enough. As for her "training to become an actress under Kishor Namit Kapoor, the founder of Kapoor Acting Lab", ref. 13 Socha tha kya, kya ho gaya? and ref. 12 Rediff Interview indicates that she began specifically training after completing her education. Only MDK & MPKDH in the breakthrough section are given scope. However, I feel that your version is good too but I think that the quotes that we give from the critics show her becoming typecast and people don't have to click on the ref. to read the quote. What do you think? --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 19:03, 27 December 2007

I completely agree that both MDK and MPKDH were bad films. LOL. I will try working on it too. --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 19:23, 27 December 2007

Shahid, what do you think about Kapoor's section now? I rewrote the MDK and MPKDH part and it looks much better now. However, this is just the beginning of Kapoor's career. As years go by, I will combine some of her sections. --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 04:05, 28 December 2007

It is not bad. This is how it reads as of now: During 2002-2003, Kapoor went through a negative period in her career. Featuring in six films, all of which proved unsuccessful, she appeared in two high profile films:

Sooraj R. Barjatya's Main Prem Ki Diwani Hoon (2003). Although produced by two of the biggest production houses in Bollywood, Yash Raj Films and Rajshri Productions

respectively, both films were critical and commercial failures in India but generated great business overseas. While her performance in the former was described as "inconsistent", her performance in the latter was criticized, "Kapoor was annoying in her role as Sanjana - a role we have seen her act many times before in movies such as [Karan] Johar's K3G (2001), [Subhash] Ghai's Yaadein (2001) and more recently [S J] Suryah's Khushi (2003)." These films marked the time when critics expressed their displeasure of her repetitious kind of roles, and criticized that she was indeed in danger of becoming typecast which was fundamental in her attempting a diversity of more adventurous roles in the years following.

I just changed the first half of the sentence while the second half is the same. I have a minor concern. This part that you wrote: Although produced by two of the biggest production houses in Bollywood, Yash Raj Films and Rajshri Productions, respectively, and although generated great business overseas, both films were critical and commercial failures in India. I feel that it reads as a drag on and the second use of although ruins it. The way I wrote it is better. I feel that the first version you suggested: [("These films marked the time when critics expressed") is better. However, the other one is not that bad either. Which one do you think is better? --Bollywood Dreamz Talk 07:33, 28 December 2007

Shahid, I needed to ask you for your advice, which is something I always do. LOL. If Kapoor goes on to deliver success post JWM, do you think it would be better if we just closed the "Turning Point, 2004-present" section by changing it to "Turning Point, 2004-2006", and adding another section called "Success, 2007-present" or combining some of the sections and just having the sub-heading titles of "Early career/work", "Breakthrough" and "Success". What do you think? --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 07:53, 28 December 2007

Yeah, I completely agree with you. That is why I bolded the word "if" in my previous message. I will only add the "sucess" section if she continues with it for 3-4 yrs. The other thing I also agree with you is the subheadings. Kapoor is only at the beginning of her and as I said as years progress, I will consider merging sections. I was thinking of waiting until the end of 2008/beginning of 2009 to consider adding the success section. Come to think of it, she has close to 4 releases according to what is written right now. Kambakth Ishq might release in 2009 and Milenge Milenge looks like it won't release on Feb 15 as it is not included on

Indiafm.com's release date lists, and according to what I believe, there are still portions of the film left to shoot. What do you say? Is that fine? --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk

17:29, 28 December 2007

Hello! Just making a quick stop. Wishing you a very Merry Christmas and a happy new year. Hope you have a good one. Hope your doing well. -- Pa7 15:24, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nevertheless, Blofeld of SPECTRE supported the same point that I was supporting. I am well established editor. You just can't see it. I will blank my talk page again in due time. If you are interested in reading previous posts on my talk page, you are welcome to visit its history. Blessings! Believe me, I hate you! (talk) 17:46, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Arguing with me is useless and same is the case with you. Whatever you say, your generalization was opposed by Blofeld of SPECTRE in such a polite way that even you could not feel it. My version was not final but a suggestion (a foundation, if you will) on which current version is based. I am well established editor. You will never be able to see it. Don't believe everything you see. Blessings! —Preceding unsigned comment added by DrParkash (talk • contribs) 19:26, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just dropped by to say Merry Christmas!

Have fun,-xC- 19:32, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Merry Xmas from me too. found your name in the Om Shanti Om conversation list. would you explain to me that meaning of the song title ? I am writing

the Chinese version. how about 1 day we start an article just about the song itself ??

Mori Riyo (talk) 02:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Shaktism passed GA, but has received a bad response at the FAC nomination. What do you suggest, should the article be with drawn? --Redtigerxyz (talk) 05:27, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Shahid hope your having a good Christmas. I tell you what I'm tired of encountering frickin idiots on this site who nothing at all about editing and think that their edits which can be counted on one page are justification for their actions. There are so many who are clueless about what is acceptable that I really worry! Check out

this removal of content - you sure there isn't anything useful there, buddy?

what about the charity drive dancing, peta membership, and nightclub controversy? -xC- 10:12, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

whoa! detailed reply! ;)

no problem, its what I figured, but thought I'd check with you anyway.

Take care,-xC- 10:27, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Shahid, how was your Christmas?? Did you see Taare Zameen Par and Welcome? The former is truly truly exceptional. What a performance from child actor Darsheel Safary and Aamir Khan. This kid has a long future ahead. I also saw Welcome but honestly, I didn't like it. No Entry was better and Akki's previous films Namastey London and Heyy Babyy were better. Wishing you all the best for the new year!!! All the best in 2008!! --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 21:24, 31 December 2007

Same here! Bollywood actors are like this. After they deliver a success, they feel that they're on top of this world. For example, look at Shahrukh Khan. He knows he is the best that is why he always boasts it off. LOL. Well, in my opinion, Kareena was wrong and she shouldn't have said something like that but what can you do.... they're all Bollywood actors. To be honest, I think she was referring an actress has someone who has done a variation of roles and have showed their acting skills in various films. In my opinion, the only film that showed that Priyanka and Bipasha could act were Aitraaz and Raaz respectively. There might be more but I can' think of them now. --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 18:40, 1 January 2008

LOL. Nice one! Ha Ha! That was funny!! The funny thing is that there are only three nominations for Best Actress. LOL. The

Shahrukh Khan the Best Actor for Chak De India. --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk

20:10, 2 January 2008

Best wishes for the forthcoming year! Universal Hero (talk) 17:08, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Happy New Year Shahid!!! I've made a creative start to the new year today!!!! I can't keep that up!! All the best anyway. Whats with

--Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 21:47, 2 January 2008

Shahid, do you know how many images (images that show the actor's milestone) we are allowed to use in an actor's article. I remember you saying something about only 3-4 images are allowed to be used but

Kareena Kapoor's article (Refugee (maybe; don't know whether to put this or the one from Omkara), K3G, Chameli, Omkara (maybe) and JWM) --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk

18:25, 4 January 2008

No, I totally agree with you. That is why I indicated a maybe for Refugee. As for the one in Omkara, it will probably have to be removed because of JWM. K3G, Chameli and JWM should be sufficient enough. I don't want to add too many images as the page would look too crowded and bad. That's why I'll leave it the way it is. If she wins the Filmfare Best Actress Award for JWM, I'll removed the one from Omkara as the image from JWM would be more notable even when she is down 20/30 yrs in her career because it earned Kapoor her first Filmfare Best Actress Award. Thanks for everything Regards --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 19:26, 4 January 2008

BTW, did you see the nominations for

Star Screen Award Jodi No. 1. The nominations are as follows: Abhishek-Aishwarya, Akshay-Katrina, Shahid-Kareena, Ranbir-Sonam and Shahrukh-Deepika. Who do you think will win? I think it is going to be Abhishek and Aishwarya (Because they got married this year) or Shahrukh and Deepika (Because of Shahrukh; LOL) --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk

19:29, 4 January 2008

In my opinion, I think that Kapoor looks better without makeup. I thought that she looked pretty horrible in portions of K3G as she had so much makeup on. LOL. She looked terrible!!! As for the

Star Screen Award Jodi No. 1, that was what I was thinking about. What if??? LOL. Now, that would be weird and ironical. Ha Ha! But both of them mentioned that they had no negativity towards each other and that they're still good friends. In a recent interview, Kapoor said "Unfortunately I shall be away in Greece since January shooting for Tashan. I will not be in Mumbai for any awards ceremony." She indicated that she would ask her sister to recieve the award on her behalf. So if they win, then Shahid and Lolo would be on the stage together, now that would be a bit awkward. --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk

19:54, 4 January 2008

I also forgot to mention something. I think that Ranbir and Sonam also have a chance of winning. Many people were going ga-ga with their on-screen chemistry. --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 19:56, 4 January 2008

What do you mean? I don't get your question? --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 20:09, 4 January 2008

Based on the response to the chemistry of couple I have heard this past year, I have listed the jodis in the order which I feel have the greatest chance of winning.

• 1) Abhishek-Aishwarya

• 2) Shahid-Kareena

• 3) Ranbir-Sonam

• 4) Shahrukh-Deepika

• 5) Akshay-Katrina

--Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 20:12, 4 January 2008

LOL. Okay, here goes:

• 1) Tashan (I was a big fan of the Dhoom and Dhoom 2 series. After a bad list of films in 2007, I am expecting a lot from Yash Raj Films. The film looks promising as well and I want to see the chemistry between Saif-Bebo & Akki-Bebo.)

• 2)
  Kambakth Ishq
  (I love the chemistry between the Akki-Bebo pair. Personally, I like them a lot together. They share a great chemistry on screen.)

• 3) Roadside Romeo (I want to see the collaboration between YRF and Walt Disney Studios. The results should prove to be spectacular. Also Kareena giving a voice-over to an animated character adds more excitement.)

• 4) Golmaal Returns and Milenge Milenge (Both of these movies are tied. I am not dying to watch these movies but I am looking forward to them. The former is a laugh-riot and the latter brings back her and Shahid.)

There are other films that she is being considered for such as Sajid Khan's Next and RK Banner's Next. However, I didn't include them on my list as they're not finalised yet. What about you? Which one are you looking forward too? --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 20:25, 4 January 2008

Yeah, her look in Kyon Ki composes of saris and very little makeup. That's what I like about it. I also think she looks really good in saris. The one that she wore during the Saawariya premiere was gorgeous. She looked really good in it. I think that they were good friends while filming Kyon Ki but during the Rockstars concert, some misunderstanding happened. Now, I hear that they're doing a film called Mr and Mrs. Khanna, which I think is a rumour. She hasn't mentioned it in any of her interviews. I am also looking forward to watch Zinta in The Last Lear and Heaven on Earth. --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 20:37, 4 January 2008

Oh yeah, I forgot about Har Pall. I know that it is a love story but is it one of those serious/realistic films like Maine Gandhi Koi Nahin Mara that aims for critical success rather than commercial success or does it aim for the latter. Out of all Zinta's upcoming films, the most anticipated one for me is Heaven on Earth. --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 20:55, 4 January 2008

I haven't seen Zubeidaa. Is it good?

Indiafm.com (The B-Biz News with Taran Adarsh) that she is currently filming for Shyam Benegal's next film. LOL, but the strange thing is that she indicated that it is not an art film, it is a comedy. LOL. Looks like he is changing his tracks. --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk

20:58, 4 January 2008

Yeah, I didn't rephrase it properly. What I was actually trying to ask was whether it was a commercial film or not. LOL. Stupid me! Ha Ha!! As you said, I think Har Pall is a realistic commercial film (love story). Maybe something like Devdas or HDDCS. But i feel that the Indian audience is not open to these new films and don't appreciate art cinema. For example, excellent films like Fiza, Omkara, Zubeidaa, and a lot more should have done well. Audiences should be open to new types of films. Indian cinema is evolving from what it used to be but if audiences don't support them then everyone is going to make stupid films that are only looking for commercial success. What you mentioned in my previous message about Saawariya was funny. LOL. --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 21:19, 4 January 2008

No, I am not. LOL. Hold on. I'll give you the link. --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 21:20, 4 January 2008

Here is the link. (http://www.indiafm.com/broadband/video/eTC-Zee-Music/rmzJJJ55/1/B-BIZ-Episode-158-Part-2.html) --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 21:23, 4 January 2008

Shahid, I needed to ask you a question. Looking at Yash Raj Films's track record in 2007, and the promos of Tashan, do you think the film will do well? I don't know why but I have a strong feeling that because of Akki, the film will do well. I think that audiences want to see him back in action roles. Well let's hope and pray it does well. --Bollywood Dreamz ^Talk 21:38, 4 January 2008

LOL what happened here. What was that about sexy Shilpa and Johnny?

So if you don't mind, I'm going to re-insert the Romanov Vodka information and probably enlarge the article with more information, sourced and referenced of course. Hope you're well. Ekantik ^talk 23:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again.

You said: "Hi again! I'm sorry, but I disagree with you in that particular case. I have absolutely no problem with mentioning endorsements of actors, as long as they are notable. Launching a new perfume is great and definitely can be mentioned, but Vodka? I can't understand the matter of making a whole section for endorsement for Vodka, when actually nothing regarding her actual work there is mentioned."

Well it is only a short paragraph within a section about her other commitments away from filming and acting, not a "whole section". Perhaps you need to define "notability" in this case.

WP:NOTE doesn't preclude the inclusion of commercial endorsements so long as it has been reported by verifiable and reliable sources. Personally I cannot understand why you draw a difference between perfume and vodka, what's the difference? They are both commercial products she is endorsing. And there is much more she has endorsed that needs to be catalogued, verified, and included. Ditto for all other actors. I don't understand what exactly you mean when you say "nothing regarding her actual work is mentioned". Could you please explain what you mean by that? Do you mean there is no information regarding what she has actually done for Romanov Vodka? Well, there is plenty of information, such as the fact that she has done TV and radio advertisements for them, as well as appeared on public advertising billboards and all the other typical brouhaha that goes with advertising a commercial product. Trouble is, none of that can be sourced reliably. :) That is what I was telling you at Talk: Shah Rukh Khan

, there is a serious problem with the Indian media in that it doesn't report very much of these things, so no guarantee of reliable sources for Wikipedia. I don't think this requires removal of the information per se though, considering what we do have.

Thanks Shahid, but I've been on Wikipedia long enough to know what's notable and what's not. As mentioned earlier,

WP:NOTE? By the way, I just now found this. If I remember correctly, Xc wanted to create one such page for Hrithik Roshan

back when she was a new editor. I don't know what became of that, but I didn't see any problem with it and neither did other editors.

As for FA-class articles, could you show me an example of an FA-article that initially failed FA-requirements because of mentions of product endorsements? I only mentioned Britney Spears because there is a separate article dedicated to her endorsements (since she has done many) and there are other such pages connected with other people. I also couldn't find any mention of the recent failed FAC you made, perhaps you meant the third peer-review?

That's good, Shahid, because I don't want an edit war either and see no reason why there should be one. By the way,

BRD procedure. I totally agree with you about expanding the necessary sections. The only reason why I didn't do that myself is because I couldn't find any reliable sources. :) That's why we're back to square one! :) The sad thing is that there just isn't enough information from the Indian media on the Net, especially for actors gone by. I suppose it's something that we have regular news coming through now because of the Internet, and India is slowly waking up to the benefits of having news websites, but what about actors gone by? If you ask me, actors like Raj Kapoor, Shammi Kapoor, Dilip Kumar, Dharmendra, Nargis

etc. were the real greats of Indian cinema and their articles should really be something to show off about. Unfortunately there is extremely little printed verifiable information about any of these actors. Even a recent-ish actress like Shilpa Shetty, it is too hard to find any reliable information about her background unless one is prepared to thumb through old issues of Stardust, Cineblitz, Filmfare etc. So this is a problem that we have to figure out a solution for.

Yes, of course the improvement of the article is the only thing we have in mind. The only question is how to improve it and with what? I'm afraid I still disagree with the removal of the information although I'm prepared to reorganise it within the auspices of a dedicated section or sub-section devoted to commercial endorsements. I'm not sure what you hope to achieve by talking to editors involved with FAC although you can do that if you want, I think it is far too early. I think it is reasonable to bring it upto GA-class first and then think about FA after that. I'm also not too concerned with this whole competition of bringing articles to GA-class and FA-class for the fun of it, as a well-written article doesn't necessarily need a badge. That may be my view, your mileage may vary.

A good place to discuss this issue would be the Village Pump (Policy). You can go ahead and start a discussion there if you want. One such discussion already took place when

Beyonce, Jessica Simpson

, etc etc. Those articles are only mentioned because they have a significantly large number of editors working on them and are especially prone to partisan edits and/or vandalism.

Anyhow, best regards, Ekantik ^talk 21:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. If you don't mind, I'll paste this exchange at Talk: Shilpa Shetty since other editors could also register their inputs or be better informed. Ekantik ^talk 21:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problems. Just be aware that I'm still far from finished. I hope to be finished with a bit more of the copyediting, maybe by Tuesday. I'm right now trying to tag all the Melanesia articles for the new work groups, so that maybe we can try drawing members to them, and that's taking a good deal longer than I had hoped, for which you have my sincerest apologies. John Carter (talk) 17:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nargis

Hello Shahid,

I do not quite understand what was so offensive in my last edit on Nargis that it got reverted. What is so wrong in mentioning that her father was a Mohyal from Rawalpindi? Please do not revert it without discussing.

Best regards, Hu114sp (talk) 16:09, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]