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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Women's League is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Praise and suggestions

First, I appreciate the fact you created three articles that I meant to a long time before this. The Mecha and Tuluma Self-Help Association was perhaps the most important Oromo advocacy group to be established, & I believe its influence is still felt today in Ethiopia. REST also deserves an article not only because of its role during the Ethiopian Civil War, but because of its current relationship to the ruling EPRDF. And lastly, the Woyane rebellion is considered by many historians of Ethiopian history to be the most significant civil unrest between the end of WWII & the beginning of the Ethiopian Revolution.

However, I was surprised to see that you located the article for the Woyane rebellion at

Woyane, & not at Woyane rebellion
; this will lead to a name conflict. First, the noun "woyane" originally referred to a game played in Tigre by young unmarried men (IIRC, ages from early teens to 20-something adults) similar to stick fighting; it can be very confusing to onlookers, as well as commonly considered to be a frivolous activity -- although participants can be seriously injured in it -- which was one reason it came to be applied to the rebellion. Then there its usage relating to the rebellion. Thirdly, "Woyane" is the informal name many Ethiopians use to refer to the ruling EPRDF, due to the party theoretists claiming to be the spiritual descendants of the Woyane rebellion. I think it would be better to move the current Woyane article to Woyane rebellion, & create a new Woyane page that would serve as a redirect.

If you are interested in improving these articles, I would be happy to suggest any number of sources. For example, Gebru Tareke, Ethiopia: Power and protest devotes an entire chapter of his book to the Woyane rebellion. Information on the Mecha and Tuluma Self-Help Association might be harder to find, since it would be found only in books which cover the modern (i.e., post-WW II) history of the Oromo, & I've found books on the Oromo in general to be hard to come by unless I used ILL or bought them myself.

Anyway, I'm glad to see someone continuing to enrich Wikipedia coverage on Ethiopia, since I've lost interest in Wikipedia at the moment, & there is so much about that ancient country needing to be included in Wikipedia. -- llywrch (talk) 20:49, 27 December 2011 (UTC)