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Your submission at Articles for creation: Essex Property Trust Inc (July 30)
Hello! Tabel dammit,
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- Hi JamesBWatson: I presume this is a reasonable place to respond? I'm unrelated to any of the topics I've written about. A company that I am affiliated with Krzana uses some data from Wikipedia company pages, which is what drew the missing pages to my attention in the first place, but the edits do not in any way affect my company, were made on my own time, were unpaid, and were made in the interest of improving Wikipedia. I'm receiving quite a lot of kickback about them, is there something about my approach that doesn't gel well in this community? I receive a lot of benefit from the resources provided by Wikipedia and I'm trying to give something back to it in kind, if I'm doing so in a way that isn't appreciated I'd love some guidance. Thanks a lot! :) Tabel dammit (talk) 11:47, 3 August 2016 (UTC)]
- Sorry that your early experiences of contributing to Wikipedia have been in some ways not very encouraging, and I'm particularly sorry if I contributed to that: I didn't intend to. The reason for my wondering if you had a connection to the subjects you were writing about is that a new account that appears and immediately starts creating a string of articles about companies is very often someone paid to create articles for those companies, especially if the articles don't give very clear evidence of satisfying Wikipedia's notability guidelines. I was not by any means sure that was so in your case, but I thought I would drop you a warning in case it was.
- My advice to new editors is that it is best to start by making small improvements to existing articles, rather than creating new articles. That way any mistakes you make will be small ones, and you won't have the discouraging experience of repeatedly seeing hours of work deleted. Gradually, you will get to learn how Wikipedia works, and after a while you will know enough about what is acceptable to be able to write whole new articles without fear that they will be deleted. Over the years I have found that editors who start by making small changes to existing articles and work up from there have a far better chance of having a successful time here than those who jump right into creating new articles from the start. However, I will give you a few comments relating to the articles you have created, to give you an idea of what is needed.
- The main problem with those articles is a lack of suitable sources to provide evidence of notability. Some new editors, told that the articles they write lack suitable sources, proceed to add dozens of unhelpful sources, mistakingly thinking that the number of sources is the essential point, but it isn't: two good sources are worth far more than 20 poor ones. The sorts of things required are described in Wikipedia's notability guidelines, the most relevant ones in your case being the Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations, while not an official guideline or policy, gives a useful summary of various points relating to creating articles on businesses, and also links to policies and guidelines which you can turn to if you want more detail.
- The main problem with those articles is a lack of suitable sources to provide evidence of notability. Some new editors, told that the articles they write lack suitable sources, proceed to add dozens of unhelpful sources, mistakingly thinking that the number of sources is the essential point, but it isn't: two good sources are worth far more than 20 poor ones. The sorts of things required are described in Wikipedia's notability guidelines, the most relevant ones in your case being the
- The central point of the notability guidelines is that the topic of an article should be the subject of substantial coverage in multiple reliable independent sources. The requirement for "independent" sources means that in an article about a company a reference to the company's own web site, a web site advertising it, the web site of an organisation to which it is affiliated, etc, is of no value in establishing notability. (That does not mean that such references are of no use for purposes other than establishing notability: for example, a company's own web site is likely to be a pretty good source to confirm the identity of the company's CEO.) The requirement for "reliable" sources means, for example, that Facebook and most blogs are of no use, nor is Wikipedia, as anyone can post anything to Wikipedia, and despite our efforts to remove unsuitable content it is impossible to rely on it. Turning to a couple of examples of articles you have created, I see that Merlin Properties has no references at all apart from the company's own web site, while Jiangxi Ganyue Expressway is sourced only to another Wikipedia article.
- I still suggest following the advice I gave above to stick to making minor improvements to existing articles for now, and perhaps continuing to create new articles when you have more experience of how Wikipedia works. However, that is only advice, and it is up to you to decide whether to take it. Certainly the articles you have created have far fewer problems than articles created by many new editors. If you do choose to continue creating articles, the matter of sourcing is the main thing to concentrate on, and if you are going to continue to create articles about companies then I do suggest having a look at the pages I linked to above, especially talk) 14:36, 3 August 2016 (UTC)]
- I still suggest following the advice I gave above to stick to making minor improvements to existing articles for now, and perhaps continuing to create new articles when you have more experience of how Wikipedia works. However, that is only advice, and it is up to you to decide whether to take it. Certainly the articles you have created have far fewer problems than articles created by many new editors. If you do choose to continue creating articles, the matter of sourcing is the main thing to concentrate on, and if you are going to continue to create articles about companies then I do suggest having a look at the pages I linked to above, especially
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- By the way, I don't agree with either of the speedy deletion nominations of articles you have created, and since both of the nominations have been declined by administrators, I am clearly not alone. I therefore don't think you need to worry about likely speedy deletions. Some editors do not clearly grasp the difference between "the subject of this article is not notable" and "this article does not have references to show that its subject is notable". The first of those is a reason for deletion, but the second isn't. The editor who uses the pseudonym "talk) 08:40, 4 August 2016 (UTC)]
Speedy deletion nomination of ANIMA
Hello Tabel dammit,
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged ANIMA for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.
If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Lithopsian (talk) 13:37, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
- I initially declined this for speedy deletion A7 because membership of FTSE MIB is a credible claim of importance. However, after noting that they are not included on the official Borsa Italiana list I have deleted it anyway as promotion. SpinningSpark 15:16, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
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