User talk:Thivierr/archive-7

You are a good and kind man. Just zis Guy you know? 08:25, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for replacing fair-use images of Canadian PMs with free ones. Please be sure that the fair-use image is replaced in every article where it's used, and once it is, please add {{subst:or-fu-re|Image:XYZ.jpg}} (replacing XYZ with the name of the free image) to the image description page of the fair-use image. That tag states that the fair-use image has been replaced by the free image and gets it ready for deletion in 7 days. Thanks!

I do plan to do that, but it will take some time. It seems those Crown Copyrights were being used extremely/overly freely. BTW, I asked a question at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions#Lester B. Pearson photo, free or fair?. Several Canadian Prime Minister free images at Commons rely on the same interpretation of Library and Archives Canada. I don't want to make a huge number of replacements, until I'm certain that all is ok so far. --Rob 10:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kent-Meridian High School, I just thought you'd like to know that the consensus for High School articles now appears to be swinging back in favor of deletion. So this may indicate the beginning of another campaign to remove most High School articles. Your opinion on the AfD article would be appreciated. It might be helpful if a notability standard for High Schools could be agreed upon. Thank you. — RJH (talk) 16:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A regular comedian, thanks for the chuckles RJH, LOL. Silensor 05:00, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

you tell that to User:Crestville too. he's the one who reverted my edit stating that it's "wiki policy" to use current images as primary photos. it's not good to lie about Wikipedia policies just to promote an agenda. Drmagic 20:54, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I already knew that. I just didn't realise it wasn't on commons. Someone told me it was. Drmagic is quite content to whinge that people are reveting edits but is too lazy to actually read the image policy pages (I think he once asked me to "read it for [him]" - I ask you!) and so never quite understands what is going on. Typical Yank.--Crestville 12:38, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Troubled_former_child_stars is not POV -- only child stars with cited alcohol/drug abuse, criminal involvement are listed.

Please remove the cfd request.

Justforasecond 01:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, the category violates policy, and must be deleted. Also, be advised, at least one of your additions of the cat,

WP:LIVING. I suggest you review all cases you've added, and remove any, that don't cite highly reliable sources. --Rob 02:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply

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Do you think we should have an article about the Edyth May Sliffe Award, or at least the individual whom the award is named after? Approximately 50 teachers/schools receive this award for excellence in teaching mathmatics each year. Also Bahn Mi has added an image to the Miller Middle School article but it is not cooperating with the infobox/tables. Do you know how I might be able to fix that? Silensor 06:22, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I moved the image, so it seems ok now (not perfect). As for the award, I really don't know, as I've never heard of it. --Rob 06:26, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I'm staring at the cover (here) of Opal: A Life of Enchantment, Mystery and Madness (

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Can you work your magic on the infobox in the Franklin Elementary School article? Silensor 07:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I assume you mean there was a problem displaying the image in the info box. But before I could take a look, it seems the image (Image:Ace 255357999 1125839916.GIF) was deleted as a copyvio. --Rob 00:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have access to Lexis Nexis? The resources online for this school appear to be somewhat limited, and the inspection report for this school is not available electronically. I managed to find a brief but interesting link which cited the death of an individual, apparently murdered by the Irish Reuplican Army by way of planting a bomb on a school desk in 1975 but naturally there isn't much news from 1975 freely available on the internet. Silensor 23:54, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I don't. I have similiar access for Canadian publications. Otherwise, I'm limited to Google, pretty much. --Rob 23:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I see you've deleted a swathe of names from List of HIV-positive people. I totally agree that these names should be sourced, and if you look at the edit history you will see that as recently as an hour ago, I added about 8 references. Could you please revert your edits while I'm working on this over the next several days. I seem to be the only person actually bothering to provide these sources, and having the names back would make it easier. Why would you do this while someone is in the middle of working on it? I could understand if the article had been sitting there neglected and stagnant. Thanks Rossrs 16:30, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

HI. If you plan of sourcing them promptly (e.g. days), feel free to mass-revert me. But please re-remove any you can't source. --Rob 16:31, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, This is time consuming and like everyone, my time is finite, so I can't guarantee getting through the whole list "promptly". I've reverted it back so that only sourced entries appear on the list, and it's probably better that way anyhow as I can work on it as time permits rather than to a deadline. Yes, I will remove any that I can't find sources for - I've been doing that as I've worked down the list. Rossrs 17:16, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rob, this is an appeal for calm. AMiB is an exceptional Wikipedian and can be relied on to do the right thing in the end. He has been provoked by some obdurate idiocy with a very long history, much of it deliberate trolling, and is absolutely right that {{db-empty}} can reaosnably be applied to these articles, also that speedy deletion is deliberately "process free". I have asked him to stop, I ask you to hold back as well. Just zis Guy you know? 20:43, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

May I inquire about this edit? I'm a bit confused by why you thought they should go in that list. JoshuaZ 03:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As I understand it, any AFD related to Israel, such as a place, person, thing, or event in Israel, goes in this list. Those two articles where about a British woman who had a supposed "marriage" to a dolphin in Eilat, Israel. In theory, almost all AFDs could be sorted by geography, but it seems to happen only for a few countries. --Rob 04:27, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks for the clarification. JoshuaZ 05:08, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The temperature seems to steadily increasing at wp:schools talk. JJay and N75 are famous for incivility, but I was a bit suprised at the flare-back I just got from you. - brenneman ^{L} 02:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please re-read the discussion. You'll note, you misread what I said, as suggesting I expect you are responsible for fixing all of the worst "micro-stubs" you wish deleted. You were insulting in the tone, when you "replied" to me, as "Err, of course the burden to grow a micro-stub is on the people who want to keep it?". That was rude (and misleading). Then you followed up with "Whoa tiger". Now, instead of that response, you could of re-read my comments, and given a new response, to my actual comments. I have, as of late, been pointing out the issue of the lack of editing involvement by AFD participants, who because of this, can't appreciate the perspective of people who edit articles. You completely ignored my analogy to

WP:MUSIC, and what that guideline works. Now, I think there's more of these people (who don't create/improve relevant articles) on the "delete side" of things, but I think there's a problem on all sides (for example, the person who says "keep please" in all the AFDs, but never edits any of the articles, is a problem, not to name names). We have *fundamental* communication problems. People are trying to jump to conclusions, without addressing why there's a total inability to understand one another. --Rob 03:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply

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• I think that the problem here arises from your comments getting lumped in with JJay's comments in my response. I am sorry for that. I have re-read the discussion, that was the first thing I did after your response, and my comment still doesn't seem rude or misleading to me. This is not meant to imply that you're wrong to feel that they were, of course. I generally find you to be a reasoned and responsive contributor, and perhaps both of us are responding to the "flame-war" style that some of the contributors there use.
• More generally, as a frequent closer of AfDs I often despair at how little effort people put into it. I'm as cranky about a nomination of "NN D" as I am about robotic "keep and cleanup" recomendations.

brenneman ^{L} 05:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

It wouldn't have helped to cut-and-paste in that case, as the snafu was my cutting the wrong link :) Ah well, fixed. Don't worry, I was more careful in my other game show closes, and resolved anyway not to do too many, as one closer should not become de facto "Lord of Game Shows." ;) As a general practice, I only post the link of the redirected to page in my closure if a range of possible targets were disputed in the debate. Otherwise, barring goofiness from me, the choice should be obvious. Best wishes, Xoloz 04:29, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I did the history undeletion of April Lewis for you. In the future, if you want, just come to me with these. Best wishes, Xoloz 19:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. --Rob 00:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Abu Badali 20:16, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I appears it was wrongly tagged. I restored it. Sorry about that!

please note http://www.katelyntarveronline.com is the Offical website. Just because they have a myspace account does NOT mean that it should be added as per Wikipedia:External links # Blogs, social networking sites (such as MySpace) and forums should generally not be linked to unless mandated by the article itself.
it appears that They have an offical non MySpace website thus it is not mandated by the article itself and hat is why i removed it. Another key issue with MySpace is that the whole system has security issues and can harm users. Just recently the site made United States news headlines for the fact that they were infected with a virus and the site has been known to have other issues. Im not anti-MySpace but the link doesnt need to be there i can see more harm than good coming from it.

It has long been our rule of thumb that pre-high schools are not automatically notable, and that version of the template encouraged people to make many articles that should not exist. It's inappropriate to have templates that encourage bad behaviour (although it's handy initially in helping us find articles to speedy under CSD A7), so I edited it to stop encouraging people to do bad things. --Improv 00:56, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• I suppose it might've been better to blank it. I don't think the middle school or elementary school categories should exist, and that the template as it stands now encourages creation of those categories, which in turn encourages bad article creation. That needs to be prevented, one way or another, although I concur with your suggestion that blanking is better. --Improv 05:11, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've been very clear in why I believe categories (and links to them) for middle and elementary schools should not exist. My means for doing so are the most direct way to accomplish the ends, and given our current status quo (that only high schools are encyclopedic), it seems well within accepted practice to remove categories and links to them to achieve that end. Regarding your example, the 2005 births category does not encourage confusion about project scope/notability because nobody could possibly interpret it to mean that *all* humans born in 2005 get an article. Categories for middle and elementary schools, by contrast, are more confusing because they disturb the status quo and result in many articles that need to be cleaned up (and upset people, because they get the wrong idea from the template that such things are ok here). --Improv 02:30, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • It is, by definition, not vandalism if it is done with the good of the encyclopedia in mind. Just as I speedy delete articles that have problems, and remove problematic things from userspace when I see them (sometimes blanking pages in doing so), acting with the best interests of Wikipedia is what admins are entrusted to do. Of course, as you dislike it, you've brought it to my attention and I've stopped for now (I'm talking with other people regarding what should be done), but at least until you disagreed with it and we started to talk, it was well within normal practice to act as I did. At some point if there's a larger discussion on appropriate content for the template, I'll drop you a line so you can contribute too. Take care. --Improv 02:54, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • I find your tone and assumptions unfortunate. If you insist that what I did was in bad faith and vandalism, I don't see us interacting productively on this issue. Bye. --Improv 02:00, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

--TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 22:29, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note that this school is also referred to as Cedar City High Schoo; I have sourced the alumni status of Michael Leavitt. Silensor 23:05, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rob... we haven't bumped into each other for ages but I just noticed your edit on the new page for Tara Conner... great to finally get some free images of her (although, as usual, they are less than flatterig -- what is it about these free images that makes beauty queens look blah?) --

I noticed that you were asking the closure about that AFD decision. I have requested a review at [2].