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Could you have a look at

Unfortunately it is still a copyvio. In order for the text to not be a copyvio, it must not resemble the original text. The sentences are still copies of the original text. I am going to reinstate the copyvio tag. ttonyb (talk) 22:23, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm at a loss as to why you changed my edit on listing the year 2011 CE as the 1st year of the second decade of the third millennium. Do the math. There was no "Year 0 CE". Years CE are counted from Year 1. "0" is a point, not a year. Might you think the second millennium ended in 1999 CE? It did not--it ended in 2000 CE. Allllllll of the decades/centuries/millenia end in a "0", not a "9". Alllllllll first years of the decades/centuries/millennia end with a "1". It's simple math. I'll break it down: First Decade (10 years total): begins with year 1, then year 2, etc. As we approach the end of the decade, we get year 8, year 9, uh, wait, that makes only 9 years, not ten. Guess we have to include year 10 to that first decade in order for the First Decade to actually include 10 years instead of nine. Subsequently, the Second Decade must begin with year 11. The same arithmetic naming applies to counting to years 100, 1000, 2000, and 2011.

This change made to my wording is EXACTLY why Wikipedia is not trusted by academics. Nor should it be, with willy-nilly assumption-correctors running amok. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Highsmim (talk • contribs) 19:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Please take a look at

WP:RY

for more information and the correct explanation. This has been argued at length and your comments are not correct.

Please also

civil

, nor is it in the spirit of Wikipedia community. Perhaps you should review the comments you made in that paragraph and consider to whom they might apply.

As far as your reason for academia not trusting Wikipedia, that probably has more to do with the fact that the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is not truth, but rather

verifiability

.

I have left you a Welcome message on your talk page. I suggest you might want look at the referenced sections including the section called

"The five pillars of Wikipedia". By best to you... ttonyb (talk

) 19:47, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Hey Tony,I have revised and edited the "Levia" Wiki page and followed all the requested steps, so can I get final approval on it and remove it from the 'deletion' list? Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks.Rollo 01:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Porchista (talk • contribs)

It still appears to promote a product. Let's let an Admin decide. Good luck... ttonyb (talk) 01:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

I declined the speedy to Annette Groves, as being a Canadian municipal politician and regional councilor of Bolton in Caledon, Ontario seemed to show importance. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L) 02:05, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. Although I don't agree – I looked and found nothing of substance in Google – let's see what happens. If the PROD is removed, I'll probably move it to an AfD. My best to you. ttonyb (talk) 02:09, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello everyone. I would appreciate any help you could provide me with ensuring this page is not deleted. I am not completely familiar with wikipedia markup but I have tried to do my best. Feel free to take a look at the page as it is now. I have referenced Annette Groves to her Town of Caledon page.(Psd007 (talk) 02:32, 4 August 2010 (UTC))

The article does not appear to meet the criteria in

reliable sources. Take a look at the articles and let me know if you have any questions. In the meantime I will probably move the article to an AfD to get some more input to the article. ttonyb (talk

) 02:38, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

I have skimmed through the notability section. There is currently an election happening and one of the candidates (Marolyn Morrison) has decided to create a wikipedia page for herself. Marolyn is an important political figure in the GTA of South Ontario. The Annette Groves election team is attempting to create her wiki page in order to show the very important work the Annette has done over the last decade. We would appreciate if you could give us some time to finish making her page (a few days). If at that point the wikipedia community decides that the page does not meet notability criteria, you may feel free to delete it.References from city hall has been added to the page. More are on the way, we just need a few days ti finish making the page.(Psd007 (talk) 02:54, 4 August 2010 (UTC))

I have gone ahead and moved this to an AfD discussion to get some more eyes on the article. ttonyb (talk) 05:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello,I think I have corrected the issues on the Donyil Livingston page. Can you explain what else needs changed? Thanks for your help in this matter. TheFightGuy2010 (talk) 03:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Thanks for helping out with the Donyil Livingston page. I noticed you removed the citation I had put on there because it was a duplicate in the links. My question is if I would have deleted the one in the Links section and left it in the citation would that have been an acceptable citation? Or do I need to put it somewhere in the body of the page or an inline? Thank you. TheFightGuy2010 (talk) 17:27, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

You are welcome. The reason I removed it was the citation did not specifically support something in the article and was not inline. References are generally used to support something said in the article and are attached to that statement. ttonyb (talk) 18:17, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi Tony, I'm trying to create this page, I have included the reason's why she is culturally relevant and before you delete can you just help me to figure out what is wrong. I have the external links and internal links correct i think. thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rheppler (talk • contribs) 23:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

I have looked at the article and it fails to provide

reliable sources. Please read the two sections and let me know if you have any questions. ttonyb (talk

) 00:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Ttonyb1. Could you please explain to me why you reverted my addition of Rawya Ateya to the

Sure, the general guideline that is used for entries to recent years is

WP:RY. The article does not have any other project articles. ttonyb (talk

) 02:18, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I'd just like to enquire as to why the Oretronics page has been tagged for deletion, since there isn't any inflammatory information on it? It is necessary that people within this line of interest know WHO is out there. Oretronics isn't just a 'for profit' company, as we also support many charity organisations in it's hometown. Schools benefit from our programmes of recycling IT, thus receiving a discount on their new purchases, etc. Please just let me know what I need to change to not have this page removed, as it would seem highly unfair. Regards. Orescanin (talk) 05:52, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

The first place to start is the CSD tags that were left on your article and your talk page. Did you read them? They have the reasons for the deletion in them. Please let me know if you have any questions as a result of your reading them. You mention that the article is necessary for people to know who they are. Wikipedia is not the place to accomplish this, getting the word out about companies is better served by a company website. Wikipedia is for established companies that have achieved Wikipedia based

reliable sources. ttonyb (talk

) 15:04, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

If you don't belive check it right here, http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005410/ it was first singed by Brian Setzer on the Soprano's soundtrack, Lou Bega has singed that song in 2005 - 2006 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clauzatarra (talk • contribs) 06:03, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps, but it has no relevance in the article. ttonyb (talk) 06:36, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Just a friendly notice that the user removed your speedy tag, I have replaced it again. ZooPro 09:03, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks... ttonyb (talk) 14:48, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

I have removed it again. There are enough claims for importance there. The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source. Feel free to AfD. Aditya Ex Machina 07:29, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Harvest (time tracking software). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Srinath10 (talk) 16:13, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi Tony, I wanted to let you know that I revised the page with your input as well as the input of the administrator in charge of deletion, Arbitrarily0. I appreciate your consideration during the process. Thanks!

Hello, I am getting a copy write issue on my new page. It says it has similar copy as our website www.billieswampsafari.travel, i created the website so how can i fix the issue Billieswampsafari (talk) 19:59, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Have you read the first section of your talk page? Please do so and let me know if you have any specific questions about the referenced articles. ttonyb (talk) 21:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello. It appears that you may have found a potential mistake I may have made on my recent article creation "Blue In The Face (band)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_in_the_face_(band). I appologize if I did make a mistake; it is only my third article. I did post a hang-on reply. Could you please review said reply so that we can resolve this issue? Or can you tell me specifically what mistake I made? Thank you for checking my work. Since it was marked for a speedy deletion, please make sure we also have a speedy resolution. Thank you.

Aaron (zenwhisper777) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zenwhisper777 (talk • contribs) 21:19, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

This is my 3rd time I tried to write an article about this company http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Completely_Bare_Spa & this is the 2nd time you delete my post. For the 1st, you guys said that the article lacks references -> ok, fine. For the 2nd time, you guys said that the article is an act of advertising -> ok, fine. But then I found a similar article which is a part of Wiki Business Program http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bliss_(spa) so I reposted my article for the 3rd time but you guys are trying to delete it again! Why??? Why is the Bliss one acceptable & mine is not? This is a discriminated act! Nnp86 (talk) 21:54, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

The article appears to be a non-notable company lacking GHits and GNEWS of substance. It fails

WP:WAX. ttonyb (talk

) 22:17, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Nnp86 (talk) 22:26, 11 August 2010 (UTC) What do you mean it's a non-notable company? So how many GHits & GNEWS do you need me to provide to prove it notable then? And if you're not knowing the company, doesn't mean that that company is non-notable.

Hello Ttonyb1. I am just letting you know that I deleted Completely Bare Spa, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 22:28, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello Ttonyb1. I am just letting you know that I deleted V for Victor, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:06, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

I won't be contesting your CSD tag A7, because I agree with it. I was just about to tag it for blp-prod, and I will do so again if your csd is declined. Thparkth (talk) 03:28, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, there does not seem to be much about him about there. My best to you. ttonyb (talk) 03:31, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi Tony, can you figure out what's going on here? We've both tagged this for deletion, but either I've missed something or just can't see how it keeps cropping up. Do take a look if you have a moment and tell me what I have not understood. Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 05:18, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

• While I'm here - While it was being deleted the user added a hangon template, meaning it was recreated. The hangon didn't demonstrate significance, and so I've deleted it for a second time. Esteffect (talk) 05:47, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks... ttonyb (talk) 07:43, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Although this was originally accepted, I've restored and rejected this CSD as an improper use of A9. A little research showed that the article was a reference to Double (singer), and with the sales figures given it would have perhaps been good to look more closely at this before a hasty nomination. Whether it is now nominated for AFD is up to yourself, but thought I'd let you know. Esteffect (talk) 05:38, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, t wasn't really a hasty nomination, I looked and did not find any instance under Double(band). ttonyb (talk) 07:42, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

You marked the page Richard scotti for speedy deletion stating it did not meet the notability criteria. According to the notability guidelines for academics this individual qualifies as a notable person in academics.

Academics Main page: Wikipedia:Notability (academics) Many scientists, researchers, philosophers and other scholars (collectively referred to as "academics" for convenience) are notably influential in the world of ideas without their biographies being the subject of secondary sources. Jrm9296 (talk) 17:35, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps, but which of the criteria does he meet. If an academic lacks secondary sources the individual must meet the criteria in that section to be included. ttonyb (talk) 19:55, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Looks like Tony was right ;)--Kudpung (talk) 03:41, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello! I noticed you marked

Thanks, there was not much support for the article, so I AfD'd it. ttonyb (talk) 16:46, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Tony, I recently came across a posting (I can't remember where) that claimed that if there is an external link of any kind on the page anywhere, it should be considered as a reference and thus a sticky prod cannot be used at all. I contributed to the making of the sticky prod and it's policy but I do not recall such a rule. Do you feel up to doing some detective work? We might need to clarify this in the policy. You could start by looking at

An article that you have been involved in editing, Seven Minutes in Heaven (play), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seven Minutes in Heaven (play). Thank you.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Whenaxis (talk) 11:26, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi there - Can you please help me understand how I am vandalizing Wikipedia as it pertains to Bianchi Winery? I have seen several other pages without any issues and have followed the same guidelines/coding etc. as they have. I am not trying to vandalize, I just noticed that one section "Climate" kept getting deleted without any notes from you or any other bots. I apologize and appreciate any guidance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Casspsu14 (talk • contribs)

As indicated in the edit summary of the article when the change was made, the text is a copy of copyrighted material that has been only slightly reformulated. Addition of copyrighted text to Wikipedia is a violation of Wikipedia guidelines and US copyright laws. ttonyb (talk) 19:30, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Why can't we all just get along. --Ak169808 (talk) 00:35, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Didn't know you had a problem. ttonyb (talk) 02:07, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Jk jk : ) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ak169808 (talk • contribs) 05:47, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello Ttonyb1. I am just letting you know that I have converted the

Thanks for the heads-up. ttonyb (talk) 11:27, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello Ttonyb1. I am just letting you know that I deleted GROU.PS, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 11:28, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Again, thanks for letting me know. ttonyb (talk) 11:29, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello Ttonyb1. I am just letting you know that I have converted the

Thanks, looks as if I am batting poorly this morning. ttonyb (talk) 11:35, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry about copying Haraganga College's main article form its website , actually i was in hurry and wasnt careful enough about wikipidea guideline.. how can i get back that page again ? this time i m gonna edit it by my own.. plz help —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamonasish (talk • contribs) 02:31, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Um, I have to say I'm a bit taken aback by a speedy on this. Just letting you know I removed it (and no, I didn't create the article). The article clearly asserts its importance, which means A7 is certainly not appropriate. Frickeg (talk) 03:03, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the message and I have to agree with your removal. I did not realize the date of the election was today's date. Thanks again. ttonyb (talk) 03:15, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Ah, OK. No worries. Frickeg (talk) 03:17, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

My best to you. ttonyb (talk) 03:18, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, to both of you

talk

) 03:44, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello Ttonyb1, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of

Ya got me... After I saw your recommendation, I did a little snooping to see what the actual sales of that book were, and they appeared to be rather dismal. So, I went ahead and slapped a <<db-g7>> template onto the page. Thanks for the heads-up. Scott P. (talk) 01:13, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

No problem, I looked at the background before I marked it and didn't feel it met the criteria for inclusion. I was actually hopeful you would enough references to support it. My best to you. ttonyb (talk) 01:15, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Usually I'm not too picky with them but yours kind of...popped out. Ultimately it's up to you whether or not to keep it of course, but consider this a friendly request to remove the shadow. =) Cheers mate, · Andonic ^Contact 01:17, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

How come? ttonyb (talk) 01:18, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Well I just found it rather annoying when skimming through AIV. But I mean, ultimately it's your sig, and I'm sure the vast majority of people aren't bothered by it, so do as you please. Cheers, · Andonic ^Contact 01:36, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, you are the only person in well over a year that has had anything negative to say about it. BTW - thanks for letting me know. ttonyb (talk) 02:54, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Hiya,

I am unclear on the need to italicise the c. for Circa in articles.

I checked a couple of FA's...in Alcibiades it is italicised, in Giovanni Villani it is not.

Can you perhaps advise, and possibly clarify that MOS page?

Hope you are the right person to ask. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  14:36, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

My recollection is the "c" is used unitalicized. I took a quick look at The Chicago Manual of Style and found nothing that would indicate italics are appropriate. I would follow the example. My best to you... ttonyb (talk) 14:55, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. As I understand it, the italic is optional; as the Circa article says, "sometimes" in italics. Happy to go without, and I think I might edit that MOS page so it isn't so confusing. Thanks.  Chzz  ►  16:06, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Since you can fill the references so fast like you did with

Better than me doing it, let me point you to the facility that will allow you to do it. Go to [1] and enter the name of the article. The process is rather easy and quick. You need to make sure the reference is just the raw URL for it to work. If you have any problems, please let me know. ttonyb (talk) 04:28, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the info.

talk

) 04:31, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure. ttonyb (talk) 04:32, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

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