User talk:Ucucha/Archive33

Hi. I had an article appear on the main page a month ago on August 20. But a notification just appeared on my talk page today: User_talk:Noleander#Main_page_appearance:_Smith_Act_trials_of_Communist_Party_leaders. No big deal, but maybe it is a symptom that the bot has some issue with its dates. --Noleander (talk) 23:08, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the universe is cyclical and it's actually early? :)--Wehwalt (talk) 23:54, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My Toolserver account apparently just got renewed, and the bot decided to send out all the missing notifications it was unable to send out over the last month. At least now you know.

Sorry for the trouble. I'm going to try and revert all the stale notifications. Ucucha (talk) 04:43, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there Ucucha, I have a quick question about FA nominations: how can I accelerate the nomination process? I have notified the top contributors, and put a note on the WikiProjects, but is there anything else I can do? The Folding@home article (a subject which may interest you) is currently a FA candidate, and I don't want to see the nomination linger for a month or more. Granted its only been up for a day, but still. There's a page which lists Wikipedians who are willing to do peer reviews, but I haven't seen one for FAs. Please advise. • Jesse V.^(talk) 20:51, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jesse, I'm afraid there's fairly little you can do. You can try posting on the talk pages of specific users you think may be able to review, and you can post on Wikipedia project pages like WT:FAC. If I have time, I'll also put in a review. Good luck with the nomination! Ucucha (talk) 00:55, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. • Jesse V.^(talk) 00:56, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, my oldest daughter has to get a picture of and write a sentence about a desert animal, and she picked the kangaroo rat. Charming little creature. On a sidenote, you'll be interested to know that a combination of traps and a cat have brought our rat population under control. Funny, after they drown they're much smaller. Drmies (talk) 14:20, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• OK--kangaroo rats aren't rats? Or aren't "really" rats? Drmies (talk) 14:21, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That depends on what the meaning of the word "rat" is. It's generally used for any moderately large rodent that isn't called something else (like "squirrel" or "beaver"), but our rat article uses that definition and then simultaneously talks about a much smaller group, the genus Rattus (which includes about sixty species, mainly native to southern Asia and Australasia, as well as a few that have been introduced by humans worldwide). Our article also in one place restricts "rat" to members of the Muroidea, which is baseless since many non-muroid rodents, like kangaroo rats, cane rats, and spiny rats are also called "rats". Thus, that article is very confusing, and should be fixed by creating a separate article on Rattus. I'm not sure what useful content would remain for a "rat" article, though. Ucucha (talk) 14:46, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It would have human interaction, I suppose, with biting creatures that eat the food out of your kitchen cabinets independent of taxonomy and, of course, poetry... Do you know of much poetry devoted to rats? Thanks for your note: this clarifies matters considerably--and I thought already that it would be an answer of that kind. I closed an RfC recently that dealt with a similar issue. Drmies (talk) 15:25, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just checking to see what your bot did, and I noticed this edit where it added the TFA notification below a user talk redirect, so the message didn't reach the intended target's new talk page. In fact, it looks as though the editor in question was notified by someone else, so no harm done, but I wondered whether you might want to build into the bot's circuits something to make it follow a redirect to the user's new name in such situations. Thanks for listening, and for the work you do (with and without your trusty bot!).

Yes, that's something I should fix. I'll see how easy it is. Thanks for the report! Ucucha (talk) 00:18, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Since you've gone beyond my skill level by creating SVG range maps with code, I was wondering if you would have any idea how I could take the map data from the IUCN Red List for all extant strepsirrhines, merge it into one, and then create a range map based off of this world map. (User:Chermundy once used the IUCN data to make range maps for many species, but he never shared how he did this.) For the time being, I may post a fairly basic PNG file I made in Paint using that SVG world map and maps from printed sources as well as the IUCN Red List... unless something like this can be made pretty easily. – Maky ^« talk » 05:53, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I never figured out how to handle the IUCN data (which is apparently in the form of shapefiles). I don't know of an easy method to get such a map. Ucucha (talk) 00:17, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If school and work aren't bogging you down too much, would you mind looking over Strepsirrhini sometime within the next few days. I hope to finish soon, and as of this moment, I just have to finish the subsection "Infraordinal classification" (more coming about adapiforms) and write two fairly respectable sections: "Anatomy & physiology" & "Behavior". (The existing "Anatomy" section is old and unsourced.) If you don't have time, then don't worry about it. But I know for a fact that the article could benefit from your critical eye and knowledge of primate taxonomy and anatomy. – Maky ^« talk » 13:47, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If school, work, and Wiki responsibilities don't have you bogged down, would you have the time and interest to review the Strepsirrhini GAN with your usual FAC-prep standards? If not, don't worry about it. I have a few other people I could ask the favor of. But you have already commented on some of it (at my request), and honestly, you would be one of the most knowledgeable people on Wikipedia about the topic. I didn't see any articles by you on GAN, but you know I'm always willing to return the favor if you get back into writing. – Maky ^« talk » 18:21, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Ucucha. I was just wondering why UcuchaBot does not seem to be notifying editors any more regarding articles scheduled for an appearance on the main page. Is it your intention to have the bot resume this task at some point? Thanks -- Dianna (talk) 15:34, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for not replying earlier. The bot is apparently trying to find TFAs around July 2013. I'll attempt to fix it. Ucucha (talk) 22:33, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ucucha, a question has been asked at

Yes, shouldn't be too hard. I'll try to code it up and start a BRFA soon. Ucucha (talk) 22:33, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There's a new requested move of Human rights in the Palestinian National Authority at

The bot seems to like to have a stray space before "Marshall Applewhite" in the "Culture and society" section, and has readded it in the past even after it's been removed (diff). If you get a moment, could you check to see why this is? Thanks,

Because of this. Ucucha (talk) 16:10, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In general, the bot operates basically by taking the text of WP:Featured articles and removing everything that has been TFA already. Therefore, anything weird in its output is likely to be caused by something weird in WP:FA. Ucucha (talk) 16:16, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that's useful to know - if I spot something odd on the FANMP page, I'll check FA first before bothering you. Incidentally, would it break the bot to rename it

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That would break my bot, yes. However, it'd be easy enough to fix. Ucucha (talk) 23:36, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

could you withdraw

Done. Good luck with your further work on the article! Ucucha (talk) 13:56, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I got a TFA notice recently and thought I'd ping you to say that the message should add the new delegate names to the notice. Thanks for running the bot! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 14:20, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Ucucha (talk) 19:50, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was unable to find the list of nominators for the FAC [[]]. Please fix the cause and run me again.

The article currently claims that "grey wolf" and "Canis lupus" are synonymous, but the article clearly excludes the domestic varieties of "Canis lupus", without making it clear in the lead that common dogs are part of the species. Can you make some changes to the lead that correct this, instead of simply reverting? Thanks. Mr G (talk) 05:40, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a sentence to the lead. I agree that the fact that the gray wolf is ancestral to the dog is important and should be mentioned prominently in the lead; I reverted your edit because it made matters worse, since the subspecies Canis lupus lupus merely includes some Eurasian populations. Ucucha (talk) 13:53, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking. Do you have the references that move the species out of the genus? Please forward those citations to me. Jurzi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jurzi (talk • contribs) 00:57, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See Voss, R.S.; Lunde, D.P.; Jansa, S.A. (2005). "On the contents of Gracilinanus Gardner and Creighton, 1989, with the description of a previously unrecognized clade of small didelphid marsupials". American Museum Novitates. 3482: 1–36.

hdl:2246/2807. (Chacodelphys). Also see User:Ucucha/List of mammals#Tribe Thylamyini Hershkovitz, 1992 for my view of the current state of classification. Ucucha (talk) 01:01, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply

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After all G. ignitus was only described in 2002 and is listed in the Mammals of the World from 2005. So, maybe it has been moved, but please provide the evidence, not just move things around. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jurzi (talk • contribs) 01:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's in Cryptonanus (and may not be a valid species). See the source I provided in the above section. Ucucha (talk) 01:12, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for doing this. I suspect there are some others that were created as part of the recent changes which should also be protected; I haven't time to check just now. Please see my last comment at Template talk:Automatic taxobox#Coding if you want something to do! Peter coxhead (talk) 16:34, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll take a look later today. Incidentally, I found that your testing plant, Junkia, is in fact an available name in zoology: it's a scarabeoid beetle ([1]), a synonym of Plectris ([2]). Ucucha (talk) 16:59, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, well-spotted! It's hard to make up a nonsense name! Fortunately it's only a synonym, so no-one should want to create an article with this title!

More generally, I think I must stop working on the automated taxobox system for a while. I'm getting too annoyed by the unadvertised changes that were made under the direction of User:Wikid77, who's not happy about restoring the previous behaviour of the system (see e.g. User_talk:Ganeshk#Omitting_PAGENAME_broke_Template:Automatic_taxobox). I understand his concern but making changes to such a widely used set of templates without notice and without updating the documentation is wrong, in my view. Peter coxhead (talk) 17:11, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I can understand that; it seems to me that coding something this complex in wikicode is a recipe for confusion under any circumstances. Hopefully the automatic taxobox will become easier to maintain once we get Lua modules instead of templates. Ucucha (talk) 17:51, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, please don't make this change. Although it will fix the italicization of taxa names below genus, I've just realized that it will almost certainly increase the number of expansion depth exceeded errors. The core problem is that Martin's ingenious automatic taxobox system is really too complicated for the current template language. We need Lua modules! Peter coxhead (talk) 08:37, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, not sure if you seen this, but your bot's editing archived pages. See here. Not the biggest problem in the world, but I thought you'd like to know. J Milburn (talk) 12:02, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Just an FYI, Ucucha. - Dank (push to talk) 21:10, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. Ucucha (talk) 02:33, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I salute your hard work with cybercake [3]! Also, you think it would be a good idea to, later, get more specific with the categories, like, for example, for Eporeodon, move it from Category:Oligocene even-toed mammals to Category:Oligocene:Oreodonts?--Mr Fink (talk) 17:54, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think for that we should wait until the epoch-level categories also get too big (i.e., more than 100 or so articles). I'd probably prefer to subdivide categories like Category:Prehistoric mammals of North America by epoch. Ucucha (talk) 17:57, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good point.--Mr Fink (talk) 18:48, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is a note to let the main editors of

braincase are weak. The palate is short, with its back margin between the third molars. Several traits of the genitals are not seen in any other oryzomyine. (Full article...

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Nominators for

I was unable to find the list of nominators for the FAC [[]]. Please fix the cause and run me again.

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Strange... I don't spot any TFAs missing from your bot's recent edits. I may have confused it by scheduling

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This message has to do with the WikiCup task of the bot, not with TFA; it's happened before. I've never bothered to figure out exactly what is going wrong to make it try to find nominators for an empty-named FAC, though.

Thanks for your concern! Ucucha (talk) 00:07, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I just assumed it was a TFA notification problem because it posted this message in the middle of a TFA notification run. Glad to know I haven't broken your bot. Perhaps we should get [[]] to FA status and run it as the TFA on 1st April...

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Actually, I was wrong: it was Lady Saigō. I think it swallowed the macron, since the log says "Notifying contributors for page Lady SaigÅ". I'll try to find out where it's mangling the characters. Ucucha (talk) 00:52, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

While we're talking about your bot (no doubt its ears are burning) I wonder why, just after midnight, it correctly bolds today's TFA at WP:FA diff but then in its next edit takes away yesterday's, not today's, TFA from WP:FANMP diff. It means that WP:FANMP is always a day behind (and a day behind the bolded articles at WP:FA) and we get the occasional fixing edit like this when someone notices. Not a big deal, but if one day you had your spanner handy and fancied tweaking a bolt or two, this might be one to ponder.

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Will fix this too. I suppose it fetches the new version of WP:FA before its previous edit has gone through. Ucucha (talk) 00:52, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Seeking input

Your input would be greatly appreciated here. GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:28, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pygmy slow loris for GAN

Hi Ucucha, could you take a look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Primates#Pygmy slow loris for GAN please. If you've got any time it'd be great to get some input too. Cheers, Jack (talk) 09:30, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dostoyevsky

Hello Ucucha,

I have a question: Is [4] a featured/good article? The star is not seen in the Monobook version, while the Vector skin includes it. I am just curious... Regards.--

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No. nl.wikipedia does not have a concept of good articles. Dostoevsky was an "Etalageartikel" (literally "showcase article", equivalent of FA) until 2007. Apparently I was the one who nominated it for removal (nl:Wikipedia:Etalage/Archief/Fjodor Dostojevski). Ucucha (talk) 18:29, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

TFA authors

I wonder why the bot regarded Raul as a main author here and here who wasn't (zero edits in both cases), but left out Tim riley as an author of Messiah who was? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:44, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This and this made the bot believe (reasonably enough I suppose) that Raul654 was the nominator. For Messiah, I think my bot only recognizes the template if it is named "ArticleHistory", not "Article history", so it couldn't find the template. I suppose I'll fix that, but I hope people will stop gratuitously renaming templates. Ucucha (talk) 12:24, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for explaining. It's {{article history}}, hopefully to stay, the last try to move backwards was not too successful, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

POTD notification

Hi Ucucha,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Drymoreomys albimaculatus 002.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on March 22, 2013. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2013-03-22. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:40, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

HarvErrors.js

I have made two improvements to your script at User:Gadget850/HarvErrors.js:

• Changed "Harv error: link to" to "Harv error: link from"
• Added the anchor name to the second error message to aid in troubleshooting

Comparison --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 20:41, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the fixes; I've added them to my script for the benefit of those who are including this version.

Do you think we should make HarvErrors a gadget? Ucucha (talk) 21:38, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I also have User:Gadget850/RefErrors.js for use with {{ref}}. Is there a way to merge these? --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 22:26, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Montana to GA and FA

Several people are working on this to get to GA and then FA. It's in sad shape so it'll be awhile. I know there is no limit on the number of co-noms at FAC but I can see 4-5 people working on this to the end. Just thought I'd let you know. PumpkinSky talk 18:45, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your TFA-helpful bot

Just a random thought... as you know, one of the routine tasks when scheduling a TFA is to add move protection to the article if it isn't already move-protected (to expire at midnight immediately after its appearance) and it strikes me that this could be added to a TFA bot's "list of things to do", along with updating the article history and informing key contributors. On a few occasions I have miscalculated the expiry date (e.g. expiring midnight at the start of its TFA appearance!) and sometimes TFAs have been scheduled without any move protection being added by the scheduler. This extra step would of course require an adminbot and I wondered whether this would interest you. No problem if not. I find myself getting increasingly lazy about updating |maindate= and am glad that your bot is following along behind to sort it out! Cheers,

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That would be a good thing to do. However, I'm not sure I'd be willing to run an adminbot, or that I'd have the time to shepherd it to approval. I'll think about it. Ucucha (talk) 23:23, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. FYI, I asked whether anyone would be interested in running an adminbot for this at

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Admin needed within 4 hours

You are listed as an actively involved adminiatrator at

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Is the free verse translation

by you? I ask because I find that these lines are masterpieces:

"Then, when we have counted up many thousands, Let us shake the abacus,so that no one may know the number, And become jealous when they see How many kisses we have shared."

cheers serge — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.75.162.215 (talk) 15:28, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, I think my only contribution was this, and it is hardly an improvement. Ucucha (talk) 18:08, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

RFC on TFA images

Hi Ucucha, I'm sure you'll see my talk-page spam at WT:FAC and elsewhere, but in case not, you may be interested in a discussion that I've started at

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DYK date request hook needing approval

You are currently listed at

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UcuchaBot notifications

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Not sure; I looked at the logs but couldn't figure out what went wrong. I'll continue to monitor the bot for errors like this. Ucucha (talk) 11:01, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

More problems on the run just now:

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Tonight's problems (sorry...): no user talk messages left re

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Tonight's problems: no user talk messages for

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RfC on title of

Sarah Brown (wife of Gordon Brown)

Hi, this is to let everyone who commented in the 2010 RM know that there's another RM/RfC here, in case you'd like to comment again. Best, --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 19:41, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]