Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1958 Jordan crisis

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1958 Jordan crisis

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Normally I say we give an article a chance, but this one is a giant paragraph and is so poorly written that I think it needs to be deleted and an enthusiastic editor could start over. I'm going with

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Jordan-related deletion discussions. Paul McDonald (talk) 15:07, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment the article was up for a Speedy delete for copyright violation. I removed the one paragraph that was a copyvio and removed the speedy. I wasn't comfortable doing a speedy deletion after that, so I brought the article here for discussion.--Paul McDonald (talk) 15:11, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy delete: it's still a copyvio. The text left after removing the intro can be found in the pdf preview at https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9780230513921_4?noAccess=true. The article creator has changed a few words ("In December, the authorities in Nablus arrested five persons for ‘communist activities’ and located an oversized cache of weapons" instead of "In December, the authorities in Nablus arrested five persons for ‘communist activities’ and found a large cache of weapons") and omitted some others (e.g. "Although Jordan remained under law, local opposition forces," instead of "Although Jordan remained under martial law, local opposition forces,"). However they have not removed the reference numbers from the original text (note e.g. "‘Arab Cold War’.5 The ") and not even the header/footer info ("54 L. Tal, Politics, the Military and National Security in Jordan, 1955–1967 © Lawrence Tal 2002� The July Crisis 55"). In addition to that the article features linebreaks at the exact same location like the original content. – NJD-DE (talk) 15:27, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Copyvios report only shows 4.8% of the text as a match and lists it as "Violation unlikely" -- after a review of the text, it's just a heading and not material information AND the article gives credit to the source. Poorly written? Yes. Copyvio? Nope. I will remove the "speedy" once again. This article needs to go through AFD. If any editor is concerned about the remaining ten words that they think might be a copyright violation, they can remove those ten words.--Paul McDonald (talk) 21:40, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Paulmcdonald, please do have a closer look at the actual content and the Springer link. I am a huge fan of Earwig's copyvio detector, however it doesn't help in this case as it doesn't cover the pdf preview on the Springer site. Even when running copyvio detector on the specific pdf it's not accurate due to the weird formatting (still 67.8%). Please also consider the notes I made in the previous message (e.g. the copied footers, copied ref-numbers). I have no issues with letting this Afd run its due course. I do however still believe it would qualify for speedy deletion. And so it appears does TenPoundHammer, as they were the second user to tag it for speedy deletion. – NJD-DE (talk) 21:57, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    • I stand corrected. I'll ask another admin to come do it.--Paul McDonald (talk) 00:43, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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