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Jordan

Wael Al-Masri

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promotional article. فيصل (talk) 04:03, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Architecture and Jordan. فيصل (talk) 04:03, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Delete Given that an administrator of Arabic Wikipedia believes that notability outside of promotional material has not been established, I am inclined to agree. I cannot validate sourcing in English to any degree that shows notability, and it would require a lot of cleanup to get this page in working order. Nonetheless, I think it could Return to Draftspace. PickleG13 (talk) 04:20, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:10, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: this guy is notable. The article itself definitely needs some work, but the subject himself meets
WP:GNG based on the sourcing in the article and elsewhere. [1] [2] [3]. Cremastra (talk) 22:33, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply
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Whatever happens, it's currently written like a CV, and needs considerable cleanup. The sources don't look bad, though. SportingFlyer T·C 19:22, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Benison (Beni · talk) 18:26, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of ambassadors of the Philippines to Jordan

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A short article that fails

WP:GNG. Its sources are derived from primary entities. Hauskasic (talk) 20:04, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply

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Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bilateral relations, Philippines, and Jordan. Hauskasic (talk) 20:04, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:09, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails
WP:NLIST. LibStar (talk) 03:09, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply
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Your claim seems to ignore the second paragraph.
"There is no present consensus for how to assess the notability of more complex and cross-categorization lists (such as "Lists of X of Y") or what other criteria may justify the notability of stand-alone lists, although
recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes
often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability. Editors are still urged to demonstrate list notability via the grouping itself before creating stand-alone lists."

Ike Lek (talk) 00:37, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep - These lists are routine in coverage of all country's diplomatic relations. Ike Lek (talk) 22:15, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:ITSNOTABLE. Please indicate how this meets a notability guideline. LibStar (talk) 23:32, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply
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The original nomination does not indicate how the article fails any notability guideline, as the current sourcing of the page is irrelevant to notability as per
WP:NPOL, if notability of list subjects is being called into question. Ike Lek (talk) 01:07, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply
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You are not addressing the issue that there is a complete lack of in-depth coverage, nor are you explaining how the article is notable. Hauskasic (talk) 21:02, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am saying the list is inherently notable because the position and anyone holding it is inherently notable under
WP:NLIST. Why anyone would possibly want to delete it is beyond me. It is an example of a cross-sectional list of two notable topics, specifically: ambassadors from the Philippines, and ambassadors to Jordan. Having a cross-sectional list serves a clear navigational purpose as well. I'm not trying to be rude. I'm genuinely a bit baffled and trying to figure out what benefits deleting it could have for anyone. Would this still be a problem if more of the entries had their own articles? Ike Lek (talk) 22:34, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply
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This applies to politicians who have held international or national positions and members of the legislature. This does not include diplomats. Even so, this does not justify a standalone article on the subject unless it meets the general notability guideline. Hauskasic (talk) 23:57, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How is ambassador not a national position? Also, the whole point of subject specific guidelines is for things that might not meet general guidelines but are still notable. I would like to once again refer you to the second paragraph of
WP:NLIST for the specific topic of this kind of list. Also, how does deleting it benefit Wikipedia? Ike Lek (talk) 01:02, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply
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"Also, how does deleting it benefit Wikipedia?" This is not an argument for notability. Many articles are deleted everyday from Wikipedia. LibStar (talk) 07:38, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Both of those statements are factually correct, but I fail to see their point. Articles are deleted for reasons, which in theory are about improving the quality of Wikipedia. Ike Lek (talk) 08:37, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:10, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]