Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/All-time Prva HNL table

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The result was delete. Black Kite (t) (c) 23:36, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All-time Prva HNL table

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I PRODed this article with the rationale "Non-notable per precedent at

Prva HNL. Jenks24 (talk) 21:43, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply
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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. —Jenks24 (talk) 21:48, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Croatia-related deletion discussions. —Jenks24 (talk) 21:48, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted
to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 23:42, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Pointless statistic overload - these stats don't really even mean anything. Fails guidelines as per GiantSnowman. Bretonbanquet (talk) 01:07, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. As long as there are similar articles about the
    WP:FOOTY
    famously suffers from.
I said it once but it seems I need to say it again - the WP:GNG argument is inapplicable to tables like these. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of tables, many of which are FLs, which have never been published in the exact form as they appear on Wikipedia. Lists of heads of state, many lists of films, lists of buildings, lists of awards won by someone or something, lists of
goaltenders who have scored a goal in an NHL game and many many more. This table shows historic results of sports clubs (entities which are notable themselves) in a top level national competition (which is also notable itself). Each season tables have been published in copious sources and I fail to see how simply adding or substracting numbers for a cumulative table is somehow beyond our editing capabilities in the interest of this project. Regards. Timbouctou (talk) 17:41, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply
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Well, I disagree that GNG is irrelevant. I didn't want to say it before when you kept mentioning other articles, but you seem to be persisting with this path, so:
List of goaltenders who have scored a goal in an NHL game, most of the sources for that article are offline, so I can't tell if the table was published in a similar format to the one found in the article or not. But that too is irrelevant – the reason that article is notable is because you can find copious references discussing who was the first, second, third, etc. goalkeeper to score in the NHL. Can you provide any references, in English or Croatian, that discuss this table (or sections of this table)? A few sources along the lines of "and with that win, <insert team> moves to first (or third or 11th) on the all-time Prva HNL table" would be enough to show GNG, in my opinion. I have honestly looked for sources and been unable to find any, but you are obviously more knowledgable about this league, so if you could find some that would be great. Jenks24 (talk) 21:07, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply
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