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Mason Lamb (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I am unable to find anything approaching

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• Delete: The four sources in the article currently consist of two player profiles that mainly appear to list stats, a roster announcement that provides one passing mention of the subject when listing players joining and currently on the team, and a game summary that mentions the subject scoring a goal in that game. This appears to be more
  WP:GNG. ProClasher97 ~ Have A Question? 08:32, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete – Fails in
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 22:17, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Alesci (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Subject does not appear to have the

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 22:16, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Edílson (footballer, born 1993) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Contested PROD. This played allegedly acted for several important Brazilian football teams, but he doesn't have any signal of

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• Comment Signal of SIGCOV? Anyway, he played for some of the big Brazilian clubs according to the article. But unless someone fixes up the article (finds the right sources) I don't have a problem with it being deleted. Govvy (talk) 09:23, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I've looked for sources more than once here and found nothing. Svartner (talk) 11:22, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I only see one of the bigger Brazilian clubs, Palmeiras, and his playing time there was limited to 11 minutes in the Paulista. Geschichte (talk) 11:41, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Yes, just a single appearance in 2013 [2]. Svartner (talk) 15:42, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 22:16, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jared Montz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I can't find any meaningful

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• Weak Keep, appears to (weakly) pass GNG, see e.g. this, this, this and this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:12, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Keep per sources above which show notability. GiantSnowman 18:38, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep – Per above. Svartner (talk) 22:08, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Luciano Delbono (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Subject does not appear to meet the

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:37, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Armando Avila (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Subject does not appear to meet the

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• Delete - doesn't have enough reliable sources or they are just mentions.Darkm777 (talk) 01:44, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Fails in
  WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 15:20, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete—Fail
  WP:SIGCOV. Anwegmann (talk) 16:35, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:37, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Beatrix Mine Sports Complex (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Article is completely unnotable. The only mention from a news source I could really find is a snippet from a small newspaper (https://issuu.com/ncexpress/docs/expresses_20140917/7). The article is also about a location within a location that doesn't even have an article itself. The article is also unsourced and an orphan. There hasn't really been any significant additions to the article since its creation. But like I said, most importantly, it fails notability requirements. Gaismagorm (talk) 18:41, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Whoops, forgot to include the deletion category when nominating with twinkle, if someone knows how to add that, doing so would be very helpful :) Gaismagorm (talk) 18:42, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's an easy enough fix with the deletion sorting tool I use (and in any case only involves changing the parameter of {{REMOVE THIS TEMPLATE WHEN CLOSING THIS AfD}} — sorting these categories any other way adds the category to more pages than intended; I had to clean that up in another nomination yesterday). (No opinion on this article.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:06, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I checked, and it looks like it was sorted into a category. Thanks for the cool gadget suggestion though! Gaismagorm (talk) 23:37, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete – Fails in
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:37, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as a run of the mill stadium, of which there are too many unsourced stubs. Bearian (talk) 23:52, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mickey Cohen (soccer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Subject appears to have played one game of professional soccer and article relies on one source. Raskuly (talk) 11:12, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: Fails
  WP:SIGCOV, with the referenced athlete appearing only once in a professional soccer game. JustARandomEditor123 (talk) 12:30, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete – One source is not enough, even if it actually contains significant coverage. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:46, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete—Very clear failure of
  WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 01:58, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:36, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Idris Ughiovhe (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Subject does not appear to meet the

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• Delete played a bit, but hasn't done anywhere near enough to be notable. Delete per nom. Govvy (talk) 18:06, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete—Appears to fail
  WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 01:59, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete – Fails in
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:37, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Klaus Alinani (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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First of all, I believe this footballer fails

Delete Obscure footballer who plays for a small town in Albania. An editor from Mars (talk) 06:08, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete – Fails in
  WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 15:17, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete—Clear failure of
  WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 16:36, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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Table football (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Unnecessary dab page. Nothing listed in this page with "Table football". Cyber the tiger🐯 (talk) 19:54, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. There is nothing ambiguous about this list of related variations on a concept. BD2412 T 01:40, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Kinda keep Seems useful enough to me. Govvy (talk) 12:16, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as a reasonable list of games that can be referred to as "table football." Frank Anchor 14:20, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Keep per Govvy, seems sensible and useful. GiantSnowman 17:59, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ajdin Mujagić (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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This Bosnian men's footballer had a short professional career before moving to the second tier of Croatian football. The closest source that is not a transfer announcement is SportSport, but it only mentions his name in title. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:00, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 17:59, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete—Per all above. Anwegmann (talk) 01:54, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gregorio Sena (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No indication of notability for this early century footballer. I dug through some Spanish archives and found some trivial mentions in publications like

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• Keep - clearly a notable figure in the pioneering days of Spanish football,
  WP:COMMONSENSE applies given his career, the online sources, and the clear availability of offline sources. GiantSnowman 12:09, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Keep – Per GiantSnowman. Svartner (talk) 12:54, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I see some room for improvement, maybe a few more better sources, but honestly this seems to be fine for
  WP:BASIC. Govvy (talk) 14:21, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
  ]

  Even BASIC requires some sort of significant coverage, right? I see a bunch of trivial mentions, databases and fan sites scrounged together from a country with fantastic newspaper archives. JTtheOG (talk) 17:53, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  “I do understand the difficulty of compiling sources for subjects this old, as well as the frustration of not being able to find reliable sources for subjects which were clearly notable in their time. While I think one should always strive to find the best sourcing available, I also think it's important to cover subjects which normally don't have a light shone on them." – JTtheOG on 3 February 2025. Barr Theo (talk) 18:59, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Experienced new page reviewers like myself and @North8000: seem to agree that you have taken advantage of this leeway given to you and created articles like Ubaldo Redó, Florencio Peña, Albert Mercier, Ramón Escolà, Joaquim Torrent and Eloy Matute with no attempt at locating quality independent sources. When no attempt is made, some articles are bound to get sent to a discussion. JTtheOG (talk) 19:12, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Mercier is a French international, Peña played in a Copa del Rey final, Redó netted a hat-trick in La Liga (Spanish top division), Escolà and Torrent have one newspaper independent source (and surely more offline), and Matute will have one when I add this [6]. So, what is your point again? Barr Theo (talk) 19:28, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Participation-based notability guidelines for sportspeople were deprecated

  over 3 years ago. SPORTCRIT states that All sports biographies... must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. JTtheOG (talk) 20:41, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply

  ]

• Keep I know this isn't a good argument, but there are plenty of obscure British cricketers and footballers with articles with no more than an appearance or two. This guy actually had a substantial career.Brianyoumans (talk) 14:33, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I agree with Brianyoumans 110%. I have created several Spanish footballers more obscure than this one, and JTtheOG simply tagged them with "no sigcov", but as of late, he has been tagging them for deletion. I don't know what changed, but it is disappointing to see such an experienced user like him being so reckless and cutthroat with these obscure footballers who "were clearly notable in their time". Barr Theo (talk) 18:59, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete As (the extremely expert and experienced NPP'er) JTtheOG mentioned, they and myself have bent the rules a bit to keep many articles by this creator that are on the lower end of edge case, primarily because Barr Theo builds nice, substantial articles. Wikipedia notability is about in-depth coverage in sources, not the common non-wikipedia meaning of the term. IMO this one misses the lower edge of edge case regarding this. Barr Theo, my own opinion is to look a bit harder for in depth coverage and be a bit more selective regarding having some in-depth coverage before you invest your time in creating an article. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 13:55, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  North, I ALWAYS look hard for in depth coverage. The issue here, is that many of these footballers simply DO NOT have in depth coverage because of Recency bias. If it wasn't for recency bias, all of them would have sources with coverage in depth.

  Furthermore, you didn't bent any rules, North. You simply had enough

  WP:COMMONSENSE

  to acknowledge that all of my creations are deserving of an article because all of them "were clearly notable in their time", and because they are all simply a victim of recency bias.

  As this discussion proves, you and JTtheOG are the only ones who think otherwise. Sincerely, Barr Theo (talk) 15:32, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  It's not a matter of how we "think", JTtheOG and my involvement has been as NPP reviewers and are just trying to do our job properly, which in this case is implementing the wp:notability guidelines. I think that we both tend to want to bend the guidelines in favor of your articles for the reasons described above. The tough decision is when do we cross over from bending the guidelines into completely ignoring them, and again, while just trying to do our job properly. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 15:48, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Hmm, I see. Thanks again for your patience. Kind regards. Barr Theo (talk) 23:59, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete—Keep—I think
  WP:COMMONSENSE applies here rather clearly. Apologies, everyone. I should have written "Keep" in the first place. I understand the confusion below as a result! I mistyped. Anwegmann (talk) 02:00, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
  ]
  • We should IAR to delete this? Could you explain? BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:15, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Your confusion is warranted. I mistyped. Sorry about that. Anwegmann (talk) 16:29, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Reply @Anwegmann: What common sense? I take it you didn't read about him in La Real: A Journey Through the History and Legacy of Real Sociedad FC by Alejand - ISBN: 9798883167118 There are other published books with more than just mentions of this player. I am curious why you say it's good common sense to delete an article where he is actually more than mentioned in publish books. Govvy (talk) 09:43, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Your collective confusion is totally understandable. I intended to vote "Keep" but mistakenly typed "Delete." I would have appreciated a bit more grace from one of the comments, but it's no matter. I made a mistake and have righted it above. Anwegmann (talk) 16:26, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Marcelo Peabirú (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The player appears in databases with spells at Santos and Coritiba [7], but I can't find any

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 12:08, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - I am not seeing any articles that establish notability except a few profiles. Goodboyjj (talk) 15:50, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Latoya Dacosta (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Notable? TheAwesomeHwyh 18:51, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete – Per lack of
  WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 20:31, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Note to nominator - we please need a better nomination statement, and you need to do a
  WP:BEFORE. GiantSnowman 12:08, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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Caleb Smith (soccer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I am unable to find anything approaching

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• Delete – Fails in
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  ]
• Delete: Subject does not appear to meet the
  WP:GNG. The only sources in the article are match statistics or routine signing announcements from teams the subject played for. Let'srun (talk) 00:48, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 12:08, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Leeroy Maguraushe (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I am unable to find enough coverage of this Zimbabwean footballer to meet

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 12:08, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Fails in
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• Delete – I echo what the DELETE voters above have said. Subject is not notable. Goodboyjj (talk) 15:16, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Krešimir Luetić (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Croatian men's footballer who spent his entire career in lower levels without evidence of meeting

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• Delete – Fails in
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 12:07, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete—Bad article with nothing supporting it. Clearly fails
  WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 16:37, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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Christian Duarte (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Subject does not appear to meet the

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• Delete – Fails in
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• Delete: I find no sources for this soccer player. What's in the article are primary only. Appears to still be in the minor leagues, so might not have attained enough notice for more media coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 02:15, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Does not meet
  WP:SPORTSCRIT. No significant coverage in independent sources. The player doesn’t seem notable enough for a separate article. Pridemanty (talk) 06:25, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 12:04, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Duncan McCormick (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Subject does not appear to meet the

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• Delete: The most I found was this piece. Fails
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• Delete the single piece found by another editor from archive.org is insufficient to establish SIGCOV and GNG. Fails and should be deleted. Iljhgtn (talk) 00:42, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Brandt (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Subject appears to not meet the

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  In addition, I don't agree with the sourcing in the first AfD being adequate enough. Let'srun (talk) 23:17, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete – Fails in
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 12:03, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, fails
  WP:NSPORT. Mekomo (talk) 14:42, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete per nom and other editor comments about failing
  WP:NSPORT. Should be deleted unless other sources exist we are all failing to see. Iljhgtn (talk) 00:43, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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Cyrus Rad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I am unable to find any in-depth coverage of this American soccer player. Fails

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• Delete: Beyond match reports [10], I don't find sourcing for this person. That's likely a primary source anyway, so of no help for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 02:09, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 12:03, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete evidence of GNG is non-existent. Match reports are not specific to individual to make them specifically notable. Iljhgtn (talk) 00:45, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Galaksia Praha 23 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Self-promotion of an amateur club, without coverage by independent sources. The only sources cited are the club and amateur league websites, Facebook, and a promotional article by the advertising agency Prague Morning. FromCzech (talk) 09:22, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Draft I would have moved this to draft space instead of AfD, some news coverage, but it feels somewhat routine. Govvy (talk) 10:48, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I don't see much room for improvement, but if there is a consensus for the draft... FromCzech (talk) 12:05, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete – Falls in
  WP:PROMO. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:27, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 12:03, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 12:28, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

One source is fotbal.cz, being the official website of the Czech Football Association. Another one is psmf.cz, it is the biggest 6-a-side football league of the country, existed since 1973, it is amateur the same way 90+% of football teams of any national association of the world are amateur, yet those are very much official and the organization/association itself is not amateur.

There is no promotional content mentioned, neither is it written in a biased way, it is neutral (answering to the mention that it falls under WP:PROMO).

Answering to the initial message, "Self-promotion of an amateur club, without coverage by independent sources.", there is only 1 source that is not independent, out of 8 references and 5 sources. That source is because the information it is sharing is currently only available from the club, but will be visible on the Czech/Prague official Football Association website within months, and could then be updated.

In any case, and while this is not a promotional page, and I believe sources are independent and reliable, I can understand it might not be meeting requirements yet to be on Wikipedia. If it is still judged not worth keeping, please move to draft instead of deletion to not lose it, as it could be improved with more/different sources in the future when it will be ready to meet Wikipedia's standards. Bouljghard (talk) 17:05, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Neither of the sites you were referring to are counted as independent, reliable, and secondary. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:56, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete—Seems an obvious
  WP:PROMO. And none of the sources mentioned above are independent. Anwegmann (talk) 16:38, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete I did not see any "obvious PROMO" for the most part on the page, but does not meet notability requirements so should be deleted. Iljhgtn (talk) 01:03, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moses Aliro (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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This article is massively incomplete and poorly formed and needs to be draftified, at the very least. I also was not able to find any meaningful

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 17:42, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete – Fails in
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• Delete – The level of football is low, thus lacking significant coverage. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:00, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kwikiriza Shafik Nana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I can't seem to find any

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Yutaro Yoshino (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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With 7 J3 appearances, [11], he doesn't seem notable, but as he played in Brazil briefly there may be stuff out there. RossEvans19 (talk) 13:07, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete – Corresponding article on Japanese Wikipedia only consists of routine announcements. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:54, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong keep - Have fleshed out article with two in-depth articles detailing his time in Brazil, as well as multiple other smaller articles. Meets GNG. Zênite (talk) 16:05, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - Oh wow, fantastic additions Zênite! I would be very happy to keep the article now after the WP:HEY. I can't speedy close this due to Clara's delete but I will ping @Clariniie: to ask her to look at it again :) RossEvans19 (talk) - 17:41, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Two sources from Targma seem to have significant coverage: 2020 and 2024. I'm just not sure if the source is reliable. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:29, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep – I found this in Brazilian media [12], [13], basically talking about his signing by Sport Capixaba in 2016 and summarizing his time in Brazil. I don't know if it's enough, but it can certainly help. Svartner (talk) 05:34, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Transfer announcements do not count as significant coverage. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:29, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep per sources above which show (apparently - AGF!) notability. GiantSnowman 17:42, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per sources, and user:GiantSnowman who is a bit of an expert on footballers globally. Iljhgtn (talk) 00:21, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Masato Hashimoto (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Prod previously declined. 13 J3 appearances before playing the rest of their career in non league. Has not played since 2023. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 13:03, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete – Corresponding article on Japanese Wikipedia only consists of routine announcements. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:53, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Just one single source to verify, fails
  WP:GNG. 🦅White-tailed eagle^{Talk to the eagle}Stalking eagle 21:09, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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I agree that just one source is not enough for an article, even if it actually contains SIGCOV material. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:54, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete – Fails in
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. PS don't think there's a 'non league' as we know it in Japan... GiantSnowman 17:41, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: I found this Chunichi Shimbun and that's it actually. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 13:35, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Great article that passes WP:SIGCOV. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:54, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete also unsure about this "non league" per GiantSnowman. The subject though fails notability test and article should be deleted. Iljhgtn (talk) 00:22, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yutaro Masuda (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Prod previously declined. Made only 13 professional appearances, the rest are non league. [14] Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 13:02, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete – Played mostly in the Japan Football League, which is not fully professional, and does not have signal of
  WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 05:28, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete – Corresponding article on Japanese Wikipedia only provides two references that are routine. RossEvans19 forgot to mention that this article was created by a user who ended up being permanently blocked for creating a lot of articles about non-notable Japanese footballers. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:28, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. PS don't think there's a 'non league' as we know it in Japan... GiantSnowman 17:41, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete more references to this "non-league" also curious about that. Aside from that though the subject does not exceed the routine references required and is obscure and non-notable. Delete. Iljhgtn (talk) 00:25, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Miguel Márquez (footballer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage of this footballer to meet

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Keep – At second glance, I have to agree 100% with JTtheOG. That's why I replaced the subject of this page with another Miguel Márquez, and this one is clearly notable, so I vote keep. Better to recycle than to waste. Barr Theo (talk) 03:03, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep – Considering that the career as a football player is not the only topic of interest about the subject. Svartner (talk) 08:32, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @Svartner: Note that there was a page move after the nom and before your !vote. JTtheOG (talk) 09:10, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @JTtheOG: Sorry for not understanding it before. Svartner (talk) 22:12, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - clearly a notable figure in the pioneering days of Spanish football,

@GiantSnowman: Note that the subject sent to AfD never played Spanish football, but instead in Uruguay in the internet age. JTtheOG (talk) 19:31, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@GiantSnowman: JT originally tagged this guy, a 21st century Uruguayan footballer with no SIGCOV. And as I pointed out at the start of the discussion, I replaced him with another Miguel Márquez (the poet), who is clearly notable. Barr Theo (talk) 19:44, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You should NOT overwrite articles. Why is the Uruguayan footballer now at 'poet' disambiguation? GiantSnowman 20:24, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the article on the Uruguayan footballer? This is a horrendous mess. GiantSnowman 20:26, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Right, I've reverted your nonsense. Please do not repeat this again. GiantSnowman 20:31, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you think the poet is notable and want to create a new article about the poet, please create it separately. Do NOT rewrite an existing article, especially while the article is at AfD. Natg 19 (talk) 23:57, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - the Uruguayan footballer of the 2000s is not notable. GiantSnowman 20:29, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect - the Uruguayan footballer of the 2000s is not notable. But Miguel Márquez (sculptor) was also a footballer, so I vote to redirect this page to there. Barr Theo (talk) 23:13, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a good rationale. "Redirect" should only be used for redirecting a topic to a related topic, not an entirely different person who shares the same name. Natg 19 (talk) 23:56, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, why would it be reasonable to redirect this page to the page of someone altogether different? Sharing a name and a profession means absolutely nothing. Anwegmann (talk) 02:59, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Natg 19: and :@Anwegmann: I know it's not a good rationale. This is simply a desperate last-ditch effort to save my 0% deletion ratio (currently 902–0). So, how about you guys help me a little. Its for a good cause and it will be an harmless redirect (wink wink). Kind regards. Barr Theo (talk) 05:59, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I thought the AfD was about the sculptor/player from the beginning, so therefore, it is not recommended to move the page during the process. Svartner (talk) 11:20, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Svartner:, Yes, of course. What I'm saying is to redirect this page to the sculptor/player after the process (AKA, if this discussion decides it so). Speaking of which, you haven't spoke your peace yet, so choose wisely (wink wink). Kind regards. Barr Theo (talk) 12:29, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, low participation and also confusion following the page swap.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 23:59, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete—This is a strange AfD. Delete per all above. Weeding through all the confusion, it appears as though this Miguel Márquez fails
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