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List of Premier League overseas broadcasters

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List of Campeonato Brasileiro Série A broadcasters

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2023–24 PSL Reserve League

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Reviewed during NPP. No indication of wp:notability under GNG or SNG. Also per wp:not regarding a stats only article.topic. A stats only article with data on a season of a reserve league. Per SNG these are not presumed notable and require GNG sourcing. Does not have and highly unlikely to exist. North8000 (talk) 12:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 13:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Clearly fails in
WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:46, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete - reserve league not presumed notable and with no evidence of
WP:SIGCOV. Contributor892z (talk) 18:10, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was speedy keep‎. (

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Mike de Geer

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A Dutch professional footballer. Page fails

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Keep - clearly no attempt at a BEFORE, giving a very quick Google for this guy brings up 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Clearly a notable figure. Giant Snowman 12:35, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep passes
WP:BASIC for me on sources added by GS. Govvy (talk) 13:41, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Keep. Unclear why this article was nominated. Neither fails SPORTCRIT or the GNG. The nomination does fail NEXIST and BEFORE. gidonb (talk) 14:11, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per @GiantSnowman. Svartner (talk) 16:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Withdraw: This nomination was meaningless. The page does pass

WP:SPORTCRIT and research proves his notability. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 17:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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The result was speedy keep‎. Nomination withdrawn, all !votes to keep.

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Boudewijn de Geer

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Page fails

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Keep - once again (see also the AfD about his son), this is a poor nomination where there has clearly been no attempt to search for sources. A very quick Google search brings up so many sources, see 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (I could go on and on). Clearly a notable figure. Giant Snowman 13:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It feels a little disingenuous to claim notability is clearly established based on a number of references which primarily relate to his recent death, rather than asserting a notable playing career. I suspect you would have been more challenged to find that quantity quickly prior to the last day or so. That said, multiple posthumous coverage may point to someone who was notable, otherwise why would multiple outlets report it, although I'm not quite as comfortable searching historic non-English media to know this confidently. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:35, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

His recent death is making it hard to find other sources, but his death has been covered in seemingly every major Dutch newspaper, there were sources present before his death, and this is somebody who was a professional player in the Netherlands, Norway, Spain and Australia, who later also became a coach. As I said - clearly notable, and this and the simultaneous AFD about his son (another notable sports figure) shows a lack of knowledge or effort from the nominator.

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I'm not suggesting you're wrong about notability, I just felt you could have offered some context when declaring that "google search brings up so many sources", as there is a very obvious reason that's now the case. But like I said before, usually multiple media outlets reporting the death of a sportsperson would indicate that person is notable. In my opinion, you can't reasonably assert this as being clear or obvious, as you did, just from death news reports within 48hrs of said passing. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:05, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've also found and added multiple pre-death sources. As I said - the nominator patently did not attempt any form of search before rushing to AFD. Giant Snowman 15:20, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Unclear why this article was nominated. Neither fails SPORTCRIT or the GNG. The nomination does fail NEXIST and BEFORE. gidonb (talk) 14:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There are articles for every other minor, forgettable sports thick. Why not this one? Kelisi (talk) 14:28, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. This is not a reason to keep an article. Giant Snowman 17:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Keep – Per @GiantSnowman. Svartner (talk) 16:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Withdraw: This nomination was meaningless. The page does pass

WP:SPORTCRIT and research proves his notability. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 17:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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List of Primeira Liga broadcasters

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:54, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Football broadcast in India

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@GiantSnowman: There are some sources at the article AusLondonder (talk) 16:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing significant that I can see... Giant Snowman 16:29, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, there are sources. What do they do other than indicate those are evidences they are providing coverages to sports leagues? Are they helping with the subject's notability? SpacedFarmer (talk) 16:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Per nom. Wikipedia is not a TV guide for viewers. Fails
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Comment. I found [1].Esolo5002 (talk) 18:46, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Scottish Professional Football League broadcasters

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List of Danish Superliga broadcasters

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Nino Kochlamazashvili

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Poorly sourced footballer BLP that fails

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Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 16:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Glen

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The only reference for this stub biography of a footballer is a database entry, so this stub no longer satisfies

significant coverage

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Draftify as nominator. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: while I am aware of the changed notability criteria, seems a bit odd to go straight to AfD for a subject like this where the article already existed for some years under the old rules, would it not be more appropriate to tag for verification first, then move up from that if not acted on? It seems very likely this player will appear in the British Newspaper Archive and there are far more 'deserving' nominations from this era than an international player and cup winner? I have added refs that indicate his prominence, but appreciate they would not satisfy SIGCOV. Crowsus (talk) 02:21, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Absurd nomination. This player represented his country and won national competitions. If that doesn't satisfy notability then this place is a complete waste of time. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 04:20, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep - clearly notable. 200 professional appearances in England and Scotland, a Scotland international, there is coverage out there including in Paul Smith's book about Scotland players - silly nomination. Good work by Crowsus and JM on expanding. Giant Snowman 09:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Again the Keeps make n:football arguments despite it being abolished in 2022. I struggled to find coverage of him let alone significant coverage. The book is one source (if that) meaning he fails GNG. Dougal18 (talk) 11:15, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"I struggle to find coverage of him" - apart from the 13 refs in the article? Do you really think that a player with 200 professional appearances in 1890s/1900s will not have been mentioned in any newspapers that (shockingly!) don't appear online 130 years later? We have lost all
WP:COMMONSENSE if this article is deleted. Giant Snowman 21:00, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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You mean the refs to stat websites? The refs to mentions in match reports? All of which don't count when it comes to passing GNG. Mentions in newspapers is irrelevant as it is sigcov that is required. Dougal18 (talk) 09:12, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Two books about the history of Hibernian FC describing Glen's career and playing style isn't significant coverage? Come off it. You just
don't like articles about footballers. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 10:48, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The Hibees has 13 hits for Glen. The making of Hibernian has one hit. Those are not sigcov. Dougal18 (talk) 13:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Coverage in four published books isn't significant coverage? I'm wondering what you would consider that to be. A book about the player himself?!? Demanding that level of coverage would lead to the deletion of the vast majority of biographies on this site. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 16:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I would strongly agree with User:GiantSnowman's and User:Jmorrison230582's points. I think it would be odd for us not to have an article about a Scotland international who clearly is covered in published sources. Dunarc (talk) 22:51, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article has been updated, clearly notable player, easily passes
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Keep – The Paul Smith's book It already seemed to be enough for
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Keep Passes
WP:GNG, also has fine sources that attribute significant coverage. Noorullah (talk) 19:40, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Comment - Responding to Jmorrison230582, the article didn't say that his team won national competitions when I nominated it for deletion, and the nomination was not absurd. Govvy is correct that the article has been updated. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:22, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Perhaps I should have said that the
significant coverage in seven days, but perhaps that should be implied. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:22, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Hwang Jin-hyok

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 23:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Silesia national football team

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Silesia is not a country, so it cannot be this. Rename it--but to what? There's no Frisian national football team or Walloon national football team either. Plus, the article is little more than a directory and a list of matches. Drmies (talk) 21:00, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep, should certainly be trimmed / improved / sourced, whole sections could go, but it seems a bit unfair to single out this team, as it is only one of a long list here, and while I realise it's not a real guide to notability, the fact that it has 9 language versions at least show there's some passing interest beyond its homeland and has some historical significance. It's pretty niche stuff, but a lot of others in that list are too and it may be more logical to start from the most obscure and work up, don't want to insult anyone's region but Seborga national football team looks an example of one with far less merit for inclusion than Silesia.

The name is a topic that's come up previously, particularly relating to the more prominent non-nations like Catalonia. Personally I would have no problem with it being something like 'representative football team' for all of these, but it's been argued that there are quite a few non-sovereign FIFA teams so the word 'national' is really just used to differentiate them from clubs and does not necessarily infer a certain status on the territory in question.

Only other thing is, do Wallonia and Frisia have any sort of combined team that plays matches? That's not meant to be a 'well do they???' question, I'm genuinely not sure, but I couldn't see one on French or Dutch wiki where one might expect to find something snuck away. If they have never had such a team, it's not really fair to compare their non-presence to articles for teams that have demonstrably played matches, even if really long ago and/or at a very low level. Crowsus (talk) 22:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – There are football teams that cover non-sovereign territories, such as the most notable cases of
CONIFA members such as Occitania and County of Nice. If there are sources that cover the team, there are no problems, as Silesia is competing in the UEFA Regions' Cup. Svartner (talk) 01:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete - no coverage, team doesn't appear to play regularly (5/6 matches in 90 years???), no evidence of notability. If it is kept, it should be renamed to Silesia official football team or Silesia representative football team, as it is NOT a national team like Poland national football team etc. Giant Snowman 09:34, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep Why is a regional team titled as national? Should be titled Silesia regional football team. Next whats with the Notable players section? That should be removed. Seems to have been abused? No history section? Must be something surely for the regional team. Certainly needs sorting out. Govvy (talk) 12:46, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. For renaming,
WP:RM should be used, not AfD. Glancing at pl wiki, just removing 'national' should work. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 22:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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List of Football Superleague of Kosovo broadcasters

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List of Ekstraklasa broadcasters

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List of Argentine Primera División broadcasters

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Vilma Abrahamsson

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fails

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Delete: Fails

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Delete as I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject to meet GNG or SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 19:06, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete – Fails in
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List of Belgian Pro League broadcasters

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Delete. I agree with the premise of the AfD. Also, what a weird list! Hardly any core and almost everything out of scope. Also by SPINOFF/SPINOUT (information governance) logic, this doesn't fly. gidonb (talk) 15:16, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Czech First League broadcasters

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List of Swiss Super League broadcasters

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List of Indian Super League broadcasters

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List of Nemzeti Bajnokság I broadcasters

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List of UEFA Europa Conference League broadcasters

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List of UEFA Super Cup broadcasters

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List of Algerian Ligue Professionnelle 1 broadcasters

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List of Bundesliga broadcasters

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List of La Liga broadcasters

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Delete per nom, Not a tv guide.. Govvy (talk) 14:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Serie A broadcasters

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@GiantSnowman: At the similar AfD for Copa Sudamericana broadcasters, you !voted Redirect rather than Delete. Do you think a redirect isn't a viable alternative to deletion in this case? IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 13:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have no opposition to a redirect. Giant Snowman 13:56, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to
alternative to deletion. I do not think there is anything worth merging, though preserving the page history allows an interested editor to do so if they disagree. IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 13:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete per nom, not a TV guide. Govvy (talk) 14:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Süper Lig broadcasters

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Delete: Fails NLIST, fails NOTTVGUIDE, fails CLN. Listcruft. // Timothy :: talk 12:18, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per nom, not a TV guide. Govvy (talk) 14:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indrė Venskevičiūtė

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I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage of the subject, a Lithuanian women's footballer, to meet

WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 18:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Busch Field

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No refs on the page for many years. Not seeing substantial coverage of the topic in independent reliable sources needed for consideration against the inclusion criteria. JMWt (talk) 14:30, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Agreeing for the reasons listed above, and I would raise the idea of redirecting to Busch Stadium Kingsmasher678 (talk) 14:40, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Convert to disambiguation page with an entry for William & Mary Tribe#Field hockey and an entry for the more notable Busch Stadium. Maintain article history at the DAB page. I would have voted "redirect" if not for the complication of the other stadium. Fails GNG due to no SIGCOV, but a reasonable search term. Frank Anchor 20:05, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Support disambig per Frank Anchor. Giant Snowman 18:28, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of football clubs in Wallis and Futuna

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No citations, all the blue links are redirects or links to cities/towns on the islands. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 02:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Just
WP:BOLD redirect it to Football in Wallis and Futuna. Reywas92^Talk 13:40, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete – Or redirect to Football in Wallis and Futuna. Svartner (talk) 15:50, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as collection of random information, and also purge the template "List of association football clubs in Oceania". Geschichte (talk) 16:25, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Rumen Shankulov

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This article doesn't meet the notability guidelines set down in WP:SPORTCRIT Kingsmasher678 (talk) 13:34, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, submitted by accident this before I was finished writing the reasons. There are no sources outside of trivial stat listings, which are not considered a contribution to notability. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 13:37, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Going by the player's career, I could see some notability. They had a good season in the Bulgarian first tier with
WP:SIGCOV. Perhaps we'd need to search using a different spelling of their name, for example in Hebrew? Robby.is.on (talk) 16:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Slavcho Boychev

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Per

WP:NSPORT, the existence of stat pages is not enough to prove notability. There are no other sources referenced, and nothing shows up in a search for news articles or other sourceable media. This article clearly doesn't meet the notability requirements. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 14:36, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Comment: Seems like he went on to have a political career. JTtheOG (talk) 22:01, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stoyan Todorov

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Does not meet the notability standards in

WP:NSPORT. In addition, no non-trivial sources are provided, and I could not find any. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 14:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:28, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - found nothing better than Gong 1 and Gong 2 Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:21, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of soccer clubs in the Marshall Islands

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The page has a single source, and none of these are legitimate clubs. They are only teams that happened to be registered with that name, and seemingly never operated at any capacity outside of amateur tournaments that took place years ago. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 15:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete look like a

WP:HOAX. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 19:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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I wouldn't say hoax- there are supporting sources at RSSSF, this is just not notable at all. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 19:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see, I was mistaken. I thought that when you said "legitimate clubs" that you meant they didn't actually exist. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 22:32, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete No, these teams aren't hoaxes, but this sounds more equivalent to your local softball league sponsored by taverns and breweries in the United States more than a group of even semi-pro teams and they're there for fun, not glory. Nate • (chatter) 20:40, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Or redirect to
Football in the Marshall Islands. Football is completely incipient there, just like Niue, FS Micronesia or Palau. Svartner (talk) 22:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete I would consider this as village club teams that do not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Tumbuka Arch (talk) 11:40, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, While these clubs do exist, they are too insignificant for coverage. Samoht27 (talk) 15:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jang Kyong-il

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 03:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete A few databases online, but nothing else to suggest GNG, delete per nom. Govvy (talk) 21:29, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nothing here. Per nom. Anwegmann (talk) 23:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Tumbuka Arch (talk) 11:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails
WP:GNG, also doesn't meet Wikipedia:Notability (sports). Noorullah (talk) 05:46, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Hwang Hak-sun

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 03:40, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nothing on the Japanese article, the guy is Japanese not Korean, but other than that error, I don't see GNG here. Govvy (talk) 21:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per above. Svartner (talk) 22:34, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I did a quick Google search and couldnt find anything to construct WP:GNG. Tumbuka Arch (talk) 11:47, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Liuba Dragomir

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Redirect to

WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 02:33, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Support redirect Traumnovelle (talk) 02:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 20:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 22:29, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Moldova women's international footballers due to subject's lack of WP:GNG. Tumbuka Arch (talk) 11:49, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tunzala Suleymanova

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Redirect to

WP:GNG. All I found was this interview, where she claims to have retired at age 23 or 24. JTtheOG (talk) 23:42, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 20:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 22:33, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per nom. Anwegmann (talk) 23:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect As nominated by JTtheOG. Chekidalum (talk) 11:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

William James Crawford

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Unref article, and I couldn't find sources to show he meets

WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 19:18, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I see some of his works online, but I don't see anything to suggest notability. Govvy (talk) 21:23, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per above. Svartner (talk) 22:32, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unreffed, fails
WP:BIO. Anwegmann (talk) 23:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Algerian Cup Final referees

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Irrelevant article of mostly non-notable people, which doesn't meet

WP:GNG. We tend to only have articles like this for major events like FIFA World Cup referees, not for national cup tournaments like this one. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:00, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Delete, not relevant for Wikipedia. Geschichte (talk) 12:22, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per
WP:NLIST. Svartner (talk) 18:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Algerian Cup semi-finals

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Non-notable topic. 'Algerian Cup semi-finals' is not independently notable outside of the Algerian Cup and an unlikely search term. Merging may not be an option since the whole article is unreferenced. Details of the semi-finals themselves seem to be already covered in individual season articles, although for example 1964–65 Algerian Cup is completely unreferenced as well. C 679 04:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This really is not about notability, season pages are okay for the cup and that covers each semi, this is really not in the
WP:SCOPE of how to construct the football content on wikipedia. Govvy (talk) 09:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete don't need a separate articles for semi-finals, they can be covered in other existing articles like the parent article Algerian Cup or the season articles. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:01, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Separate articles for finals are understandable, but not for semi-finals. Svartner (talk) 18:20, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to
WP:CHEAP. ~Kvng (talk) 17:51, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Rachid Ghanimi

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I can't seem to find anything approaching

WP:SIGCOV, but the original creator moved the article to mainspace without changing anything. Anwegmann (talk) 03:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Delete: Fails
WP:SIGCOV . Looking for sources only brings up stat pages like Transfermarkt and fbref . Kpg jhp jm 04:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify –
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Alenga Charles

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This comes across as

WP:GNG as it stands right now. Several searches hardly brought up databases, much less anything of substance. Anwegmann (talk) 03:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in
WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 18:24, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete: There are quite number of sources though primary and silent meet out criteria for media coverage. The article may be notable in the future. But for now,
WP:NOTJUSTYET. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Hong Song-nam (footballer)

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 03:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Football at the 1976 Summer Olympics – Men's team squads where his name is listed and only known for. Govvy (talk) 09:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Football at the 1976 Summer Olympics – Men's team squads#North Korea per Govvy. Giant Snowman 17:54, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per above. Anwegmann (talk) 01:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hong Jin-song

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 03:48, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:53, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nothing at all to go on here. Fails
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2024–25 Malaysia A2 Amateur League

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Seasonal article for a non-notable lower division amateur league in Malaysia, nothing indicates that such an article would pass

WP:GNG Snowflake91 (talk) 11:42, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Delete – Fails in
WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:05, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:00, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify I do think it's notable - it does get coverage in local papers, and a third tier amateur league isn't ineligible if it passes
WP:TOOSOON - all of the coverage is from last season, such as [2] [3]. SportingFlyer T·C 02:34, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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This tournament not start yet, schedule in June. I will find reliable source to update in this article. FM Malaysia (talk) 03:05, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024–25 Malaysia A3 Community League

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Fails

WP:GNG, seasonal article for a fully-amateur 4th division of Malaysian football, no indication of any significant coverage outside of primary sources. Snowflake91 (talk) 11:46, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Delete – Fails in
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:00, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the sources in the article already pass
WP:GNG after translation. The problem is the competition hasn't started yet, so there's not any better sources to find on the competition itself. SportingFlyer T·C 02:37, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Then it needs to be drafted first, this article is basically one huge "this section is empty" and nothing else, there is literally no content in the article. Snowflake91 (talk) 10:01, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify - the 'article' has no meaningful content Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:04, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This tournament not start yet, schedule in May. I will find reliable source to update in this article. FM Malaysia (talk) 03:06, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Patricio Vidal (Chilean footballer)

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I can't find any mention of this guy anywhere. He seems to have been a bit player on the teams he played.

WP:GNG fails. Allan Nonymous (talk) 13:43, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Delete unless the resident expert on Chilean football, @ImSnot, knows of any sources, any accomplishments, anytihng useful. Geschichte (talk) 15:02, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:00, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Angeline Gustave

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Poorly sourced footballer BLP. I found a couple of pieces covering her move to France (1, 2, 3, 4, 5), but nothing in-depth. #3 is probably the best source. JTtheOG (talk) 17:11, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 22:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Football at the 2027 Pan American Games

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WP:TOOSOON. There is absolutely no need or use for this page so far away from the 2027 Games. The desire to create articles too early should be stamped out. It won't be any more useful in six months either, negating the desirability of draftification. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2026 South American U-17 Women's Championship and many others. Geschichte (talk) 10:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Delete – Completely hasty in relation to the event. Svartner (talk) 12:33, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete way
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Delete - no evidence of notability, and there won't be any updates for 2 years. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Far
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Tsvetana Mancheva

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Redirect to

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Redirect – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 12:35, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 20:29, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ólafsfjarðarvöllur

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Likely hoax. Only source is permanent dead link. "Capacity of 2100" is more than twice the town's population. Claims to be the home field of Knattspyrnufélag Fjarðabyggðar, which was in a completely different part of Iceland. Numberguy6 (talk) 00:40, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 12:35, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I added several references. For the capacity, https://www.nordicstadiums.com/olafsfjardarvollur/ says total capacity of 2,100 but only 150 seats, which is consistent with the photos in the references. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 15:41, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - I normally suggest redirecting non-notable stadiums, but this is not mentioned at either the club (Knattspyrnufélag Fjarðabyggðar) or the locality (Ólafsfjörður). Giant Snowman 20:27, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Appears to lack notability in full. Anwegmann (talk) 00:26, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not a hoax. Fjallabyggð and Fjarðabyggð are two separate teams, and someone picked the wrong one hence the confusion. SportingFlyer T·C 02:40, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Park Seung-ri

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:58, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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*Keep per sources at ja:朴昇利 Japanese wikipedia. Govvy (talk) 16:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

what do the sources say? Giant Snowman 20:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@GiantSnowman: To be honest, the sources seem pretty routine, transfers, contracts and terminations. There was one good source talking about his trial, but it really wasn't that great. I realised I read some of it wrong, I also thought he was playing at a higher level. As he played for quite a few clubs I don't believe a redirect would work. I am going to change my vote to delete. Regards Govvy (talk) 21:31, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking a more in-depth look. Giant Snowman 17:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or redirect I think its better to either redirect the page to

WP:1E. Also, the Japanese page lacks sufficient sourcing and quality writing, so i see no reason to maintain it. Lililolol (talk) 20:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per above. Just routine sources. Svartner (talk) 22:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hong Dae-hwa

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ho Jong-min

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:53, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Anwegmann (talk) 00:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Han Yong-gi

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:27, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails
WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 00:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Bayan Mahmoudi

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Redirect to

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Redirect – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 21:17, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 18:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per nom. Anwegmann (talk) 00:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect The Persian version also does not have more than 1 citation. Yolandagonzales (talk) 09:21, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aleksandr Zinovyev (footballer)

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Non-notable BLP. Few sources exist in Google, Google Books, JSTOR, TWL, and others.

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Doesn't seem to be much to go on here. Fails
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Delete: I noticed some football players doesn't meet
WP:SIGCOV. Unfortunately, this is one of them! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:51, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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List of Sporting Clube da Praia players

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Indiscriminate list of mostly non-notable people fails to meet the criteria defined by the

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Delete. Fails
WP:GNG individually. People that do meet GNG individually, and whose playing for SC Praia we have verified, can be collected in a category. Geschichte (talk) 08:04, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per similar AfD (CD Travadores players). Svartner (talk) 22:09, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Redundant list filled with unsourced materials and non-notable players. X (talk) 18:31, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pak Chol-jin

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Article fails WP:GNG. Can only find passing mentions in match reports. Redirect to 2010 World Cup squad. Simione001 (talk) 03:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:05, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep He has 36 caps for a senior national team and played in a World Cup. Anwegmann (talk) 00:35, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Both irrelevant facts. There are no sources which prove notability in sport and as such the article should be redirect to 2010 World Cup squad or deleted. Simione001 (talk) 00:50, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment @Simione001: I just like to point out that he is listed at both 2011 AFC Asian Cup squads and 2010 FIFA World Cup squads, so redirecting to one or the other would effect the search feature if anyone looks the name up. If deleted with no redirect, people will be able to find his name in both the articles and not be directed to just one. Govvy (talk) 22:01, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 03:41, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Odd one because
WP:NFOOTBALLNEW, Players who have played in, and managers who have managed in, any Tier 1 International Match as defined by FIFA was once the guideline for notability which this article meets. Orange sticker (talk) 11:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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WP:NFOOTBALLNEW was rejected. You mustn't make up your own keep/delete criteria. WP:GNG is very clear. Simione001 (talk) 23:48, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Comment not quite, the proposal was to change what was referred to as the current guideline (part I quoted) however all guidelines relating to football seem to have been scrapped for reasons I don't know. Might be a good idea to draftify this and similar stubs until the guidelines are clearer? Orange sticker (talk) 08:06, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:GNG is the only criteria that applies. Its very clear. Simione001 (talk) 08:24, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Simione001: You've nominated over 100 articles in the past few months and they seem to near-exclusively target those from just North Korea - a much underrepresented country whose sources are very difficult to find / use / etc. This systematic destruction of a nation's football history is rather annoying. Why? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because they are terrible quality articles with next to zero information about the individual. If you actually looked into it, there a quite a few North Korean players which pass WP:GNG so to say this is some kind of systematic destruction of North Korean football is laughable. Simione001 (talk) 23:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sylvan Anderton

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sportsperson stub. fails

general notability guideline. ltb d l (talk) 09:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Comment – The player appears to have a substantial number of appearances for Reading and Chelsea. I think it's a matter of
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Keep - clearly notable. Over 200 appearances in England's professional football league (verified by the Neil Brown source in the article sas well as sources like this), while a quick Google search brings up things like this and this which clearly indicate historical (read: offline) coverage. A lazy nomination. Giant Snowman 18:18, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
are those football cards? ltb d l (talk) 12:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
...yes? Giant Snowman 07:43, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
football cards aren't reliable sources ltb d l (talk) 11:01, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Has that ever been decided? I'd think if it were by a reputable company it would be reliable. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:44, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
that's crazy ltb d l (talk) 06:19, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Football cards being reliable sources made me literally laugh out loud. AusLondonder (talk) 07:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why wouldn't a reputable card company be reliable? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:01, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
amazing. 10/10. no notes. ltb d l (talk) 06:34, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:40, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
At no point have I claimed that football cards are reliable. I was merely suggesting that appearing on football cards - and, if you had bothered to Google him, all the other historical coverage at photo archives etc. - suggests there is coverage out there, which research by others below has supported. Giant Snowman 18:04, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep With the amount of games he played and the clubs he played for seems good enough, combined with GS sources above and probably much more
WP:OFFLINESOURCES, this needs improvement for sure. Govvy (talk) 18:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Keep More than 200 professional appearances for teams with deep, deep histories and legacies. This is very obvious. Clearly notable. Anwegmann (talk) 23:02, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails GNG and lacks SIGCOV. An actual check of the newspapers.com archive finds nothing but mentions in match reports/transfer stories. He went on to play cricket for Bryant Rose Cricket Club and won the raffle four years in a row there but that is trivial stuff. NFOOTBALL has been depreciated since 2022 so any Keeps based on number of games played must be ignored by the closer. He isn't notable either for playing for some "notable" clubs per NOTINHERITED. Dougal18 (talk) 10:37, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I frequently see editors citing Wikipedia:But there must be sources! in AfDs for footballers with dozens of international caps. I'd like to see the same standard applied to footballers with "over 200 appearances in England's professional football league". How do football cards indicate offline coverage, @GiantSnowman:? As Dougal18 points out so far it has not been demonstrated that SIGCOV exists. Robby.is.on (talk) 11:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Mostly per
WP:GNG. This is clear community consensus. Simply asserting that an individual played for notable teams is not a suitable AfD argument. If nothing can be found in newspaper archives, then he's not notable. Another point is this is little more than an infobox and a pseudo-biography. AusLondonder (talk) 11:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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There seems to be a decent amount of newspaper coverage, although it is mostly brief-ish: see [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]. An argument could be made for
WP:NBASIC, considering he seemed to have significant amount of appearances for prominent clubs. Not sure if that changes anyone's views: @Ltbdl, AusLondonder, Dougal18, and Robby.is.on:? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:26, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Good research! Giant Snowman 07:44, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, per Dougal and AusLondoner. Football cards do not contribute to notability at all, and given passing mentions in match reports don't count towards even BASIC for modern players they shouldn't count for old players either. We don't have a single piece of the required IRS SIGCOV, so we have no valid justification for retaining this article. JoelleJay (talk) 21:07, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment He also has a biographical entry in Chelsea The Complete Record: author: Rick Glanvill isbn: 9781909245303 also mentioned in The Little Book of Reading FC - 1920-2008 author: Alan Sedunary isbn: 9781780913711. There maybe more books with biographical information. Govvy (talk) 13:54, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Can you tell us what exactly is in those books? Dougal18 (talk) 14:22, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Glanvill is Chelsea's official historian, he is not an independent source. JoelleJay (talk) 19:03, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reply @JoelleJay: That's not correct, nor is it proper to discredit him. Will you do the same for Historians who went to Oxford and Cambridge and write about those subjects? He is a published author and a reputable one at that. Please don't use this argument ever again on any credited club historian. Govvy (talk) 22:39, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He's literally hired by the club to write about club history. Of course he isn't independent. And if a historian is employed by Oxford to write about Oxford history then they aren't independent either. JoelleJay (talk) 16:56, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JoelleJay: Again you really have no idea, the Chelsea book is independent to the club, published by De Coubertin Books deCoubertin Books is a leading independent publisher, which publishes outstanding non-fiction titles predicated on high editorial and production values. We work with some of the biggest names in sport and sportswriting and our books have been nominated for numerous awards. Being hired by a club doesn't make the book published by the club. Also the link provided says he is the club historian, because he is the top of his field in the history for the club, at no time does that post on the Chelsea page say he is hired directly for them. The Reading book is published by Breedon Books Publishing Co Ltd and not Reading Football Club. These are both independent publishers to the clubs. I really don't understand why you feel these are primary sources when they are not remotely so. Govvy (talk) 21:43, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Being an employee of the club (He has worked for all Chelsea FC's publications and media since 1993 and is the club's official historian.) means the person has a COI with the club, and this applies to material the person publishes through independent publishers (and obviously anything authored by the club would go through an external publisher; it's not like each club has its own book publishing house; the "Official Biography" of Chelsea that he penned ... for the club is through Headline Publishing Group). We'd consider a book authored by a relative of the subject to be non-independent regardless of where it's published; the same applies here. And what part of "the club's official historian", as recorded on the club's website, makes you think he's not working directly for them.....
I didn't say anything about primary sources. I said they are non-independent. JoelleJay (talk) 22:00, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is like arguing that an 'official biographer' of a celebrity should be discredited...nonsense! Giant Snowman 18:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
An official biographer of a celebrity who was hired by that celebrity's talent agency should absolutely be discredited! JoelleJay (talk) 01:11, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Sports cards are reliable sources stat-wise.KatoKungLee (talk) 17:12, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – For the arguments presented so far in the discussion. I see no reason to discredit a club historian, or sports cards, considering that the athlete played in the 50s and 60s. The sources presented by @Govvy demonstrate credibility. Svartner (talk) 21:14, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Credibility of who? Dougal18 (talk) 14:14, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The authors of mentioned books. Svartner (talk) 15:26, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So employees of the football club are somehow exempted from the NSPORT guidance saying Team sites and governing sports bodies are not considered independent of their players if they don't publish directly on the website?
The sports cards are completely trivial stats coverage. Why would they count? JoelleJay (talk) 17:01, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The delete arguments seem a bit
WP:IDONTLIKEIT, in their attempts to discredit what seems like reasonable coverage. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 06:26, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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List of Girabola seasons

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WP:INDISCRIMINATE. The list of seasons can already be found in the main article Girabola, another duplicate article being unnecessary. Svartner (talk) 09:12, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Comment Shouldn't you include everything linked to? Category:Girabola seasons Dream Focus 11:15, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, Svartner doesn't advocate deletion of the individual seasons, just the overarching list - which adds exactly nothing to the category. Geschichte (talk) 16:53, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly, my question is whether there is a separate list if the main article already includes a list of seasons. Svartner (talk) 20:38, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Its unneeded. also kind of goes against
WP:NOTDIRECTORY. The way the article is made, it may as well just be a category page. Shadow311 (talk) 19:10, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete The seasons are listed in the template. If no other information is in the list article, it becomes pointless. Dream Focus 23:24, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep and expand/improve, in-line with List of Premier League seasons etc. This is ~~Morocco's~~ Angola's top football competition. Giant Snowman 18:32, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment (I am at abstained vote here.) This list could be more useful if done right. As GS pointed out we do have them. And @GiantSnowman: this is the Angolan league, not the Moroccan! :/ Govvy (talk) 19:29, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, getting Girabola mixed up with Botola! Giant Snowman 20:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete without prejudice - at the moment this is a duplicative, unnecessary article, but there's the potential for a better article here if someone wants to create something more detailed. SportingFlyer T·C 20:01, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Svartner, Shadow311, Dream Focus, Govvy, and SportingFlyer: I have started the process of converting into a proper list a la List of Premier League seasons, just need someone with time and knowledge to help... Giant Snowman 20:27, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Using RSSSF which lists all the champs... Giant Snowman 20:34, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
...and I've just noticed has pages for every individual season, such as 1979, 1980 etc. As such, if you still don't want to keep, please agree to draftify so I can work on it. Giant Snowman 20:36, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No problem with draftification, but I do hope it's more comprehensive than just what's on the Girabola page. SportingFlyer T·C 15:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
...which it would be if you check my edits to this article... Giant Snowman 20:41, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a big difference between the Premier League and the Angolan championship. The list of seasons is duplicated, as it is also included in the main article Girabola. Svartner (talk) 00:19, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Girabola#Girabola_participation_details list all the information doesn't it? Dream Focus 02:02, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That section is absolutely incomprehensible! I have deleted. Giant Snowman 20:39, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I'm with GiantSnowman here. This article needs work, but that is not a reason for deletion, especially if it not an obvious
WP:TNT. This article has a lot of potential à la List of Premier League seasons, so it's not a TNT. Anwegmann (talk) 23:16, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Estádio Arena do Município Verde

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Fails

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Redirect to Paragominas Futebol Clube. Svartner (talk) 16:38, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Paragominas Futebol Clube. Giant Snowman 09:37, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It does pass GNG, as you'd expect from a 10.000 seat stadium, but the article needs to be improved. See Portuguese page and [11] [12] [13] SportingFlyer T·C 20:10, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2020–21 Deportivo de La Coruña season

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Not playing in professional division, does not appear to meet

WP:GNG. Already deleted for same reasons in 2020. Crowsus (talk) 15:51, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Keep – Even though they are in a lower division in the season in question, Deportivo La Coruña's notability is undoubted. Svartner (talk) 18:07, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete as per last AFD. Giant Snowman 20:31, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I agree with Svartner. Continuity in the coverage of a historically professional team is important in an encyclopedia. Anwegmann (talk) 21:51, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Even know they are a notable club doesn't mean their seasons qualify under the SNG
WP:NSEASONS, they are too far down the ladder now. So delete per notability on the season. Govvy (talk) 21:53, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Keep - This season is very notable because of the nature of it and the circumstances regarding the club at this time, as it entered a new era. - Cr7s 190.153.84.93 (talk) 02:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Beni Ebeid Stadium

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No refs on the page for many years. Not seeing much which could be included however the sources may not be in English. JMWt (talk) 11:16, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. No located sources.

🇺🇲JayCubby✡ please edit my user page! Talk 15:07, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Beni Ebeid SC as ATD. Definitely not notable. Mccapra (talk) 16:09, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge and redirect to
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Redirect to Beni Ebeid SC as above; not even mentioned at the town article. Giant Snowman 19:20, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I sent Beni Ebeid SC to AfD, so now it's an inappropriate target! And it is mentioned in the town article now! :/ Govvy (talk) 10:41, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I think it needs fixing rather than deletion! Similar to what I've done to Beni Ebeid SC, I'll update this article one with new content in the nearest possible time. Ben5218 (talk) 14:37, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I've updated the article and added references. It's still a stub, but I think that's enough to keep it. Thoughts, everyone? @GiantSnowman, @Govvy, @Mccapra, @JayCubby.
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Comment thanks for finding these Ben5218 but a Facebook post and two pieces of coverage saying the name of the stadium is changing don’t make it notable. I still a merge and redirect to either the club or the town is best. Mccapra (talk) 14:45, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. Giant Snowman 17:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That Facebook post contains a video discussing the stadium's and club's history, though, and only one reference covers the name change, not two. Since my last comment here, another four references were added (I can find and add more easily, if needed), and I also added more content. This topic definitely passes
WP:GNG now, in my opinion. Ben5218 (talk) 18:16, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Weak keep per the sources currently in the article. Decent enough coverage about an Egyptian topic. Geschichte (talk) 08:13, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Sources are one line mentions or unreliable. And I think I've been cyber attacked by one of the sources I clicked on.Tamsier (talk) 02:57, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]