Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anindita Ghose
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The result was keep. Randykitty (talk) 09:57, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
Anindita Ghose
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Most of the references are written by Anindita Ghose herself. Some reference about her book The Illuminated review. Written only 1book, no indepth coverages about her, she is failing
WP:NAUTHOR Nomadwikiholic (talk) 12:29, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Nomadwikiholic (talk) 12:29, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
*Keep Book reviews, more than 2 satisfies
WP:NAUTHOR. scope_creepTalk 12:44, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
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- Hi Scope creep, you mention another novel, and I looked for it, but only found works by a different author with a similar name. Can you add further information about the other novel? Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 22:38, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Beccaynr: Will do. I'll take a look. scope_creepTalk 09:22, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Beccaynr: She mentions here that she has second book but hasn't published it yet.
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- Its been a year almost since she mentioned it, but it could much longer before it is published. She mentioned details about when she did the Hawthornden fellowship in 2019 in an interview but I can't locate it. I dont know how that colours the argument. It is more than borderline for somebody that has so many reviews on her first book. scope_creepTalk 09:53, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, scope creep - from my view, her saying
I’ve begun to work on my second novel. What I can say is that it is set in Bombay—a city I know most intimately
seems tooclosely duplicates the book article and otherwise relies on primary sources to verify biographical and career information. Beccaynr (talk) 14:12, 15 March 2023 (UTC)]- Yes, I see what you mean. Very cool analysis as per. I didn't actually see the book article, the book is notable. I noticed she does write and interview folk for various journals which has been mixed in somewhat and doesn't add much. It could be redirected quite happily as there is not sufficient standalone coverage at the moment to make the author notable. Changing to Redirect. scope_creepTalk 11:34, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Journalism, and India. Shellwood (talk) 12:53, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Seems to satisfy AUTHOR with the reviews of the novel above, some are better than others as sourcing, but we've got enough for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 16:10, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- If someone write one Novel and if the person gets enough coverages then the person is meeting WP:NAUTHOR ? Nomadwikiholic (talk) 16:19, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Please read third criteria of WP:AUTHOR which says "creating a significant " not more than two significant. 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙♂️Let's Talk ! 16:30, 2 March 2023 (UTC)]
- Thank you for teaching me. Nomadwikiholic (talk) 16:51, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Please read third criteria of
- If someone write one Novel and if the person gets enough coverages then the person is meeting WP:NAUTHOR ? Nomadwikiholic (talk) 16:19, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Seems to satisfy AUTHOR with the reviews of the novel above, some are better than others as sourcing, but we've got enough for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 16:10, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Speedy keep: as WP:NAUTHOR as she created major role in creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work which has been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews. 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙♂️Let's Talk ! 16:28, 2 March 2023 (UTC)]
- Comment: @WP:GNG. 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙♂️Let's Talk ! 16:34, 2 March 2023 (UTC)]
- Thank you for letting me know the difference. Nice to meet you and learn from your experience. Nomadwikiholic (talk) 16:52, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep,
obviously. Additionally, while the nominator might well be correct about the COI, the article seems to be neutral and well referenced. pburka (talk) 16:46, 2 March 2023 (UTC)- I'd also support a merge into The Illuminated. pburka (talk) 16:59, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to promotional article for the author due to a lack of multiple reviews for a second book and a lack of support for the significance of the first book (e.g. major bestseller lists, notable awards, etc). See e.g. the Akil Kumarasamy AfD. Beccaynr (talk) 13:14, 3 March 2023 (UTC)]
- Comment - here is similar AfD. Twinkle1990 (talk) 08:56, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Changed the comment above to Redirect. @WP:TOOSOON as the books seems to be stellar and its only a matter of time before she becomes really well known. — Preceding unsigned comment added by scope_creep (talk • contribs)
- Keep as I'd say that the existing sources show that Ghose is notable enough to have a page. Those who say otherwise are sadly mistaken in this case.Historyday01 (talk) 05:01, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- If you talk about existing source then I'll say those existing sources are talking about her book not about her. Not a single source is in-depth. So I think this should be deleted or Redirected to The Illuminated. Nomadwikiholic (talk) 09:57, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 13:21, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 21:50, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep as notable writer of India.Twinkle1990 (talk) 12:55, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- I have updated the page to address concerns of overlaps with The Illuminated page and added more references. FactChecker0301 (talk) 19:14, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- @WP:GNG. Nomadwikiholic (talk) 06:17, 23 March 2023 (UTC)]
- Wikipedia:NAUTHOR says that a person is notable if he done a major role in creating any significant work (significant work means that these works should be subject of reviews and news articles) and in this case Ghose has done major role by writing the book. 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙♂️Let's Talk ! 07:54, 23 March 2023 (UTC)]
- @LordVoldemort728: According to those reviews the book(also the author) is notable but at same time with same reviews two topic can't be notable. So in that case only 1 topic should stay on mainspace and another topic should be redirected. Nomadwikiholic (talk) 11:09, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Nomadwikiholic Which guideline of wikipedia says that "at same time with same reviews two topic can't be notable" and "only 1 topic should stay on mainspace and another topic should be redirected"? 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙♂️Let's Talk ! 11:15, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- The guideline is WP:NBOOKguideline outlines what can support notability of a book, and while some of those criteria could help support "significant or well-known" in addition to reviews (such as major literary awards or bestseller lists), they are not demonstrated here.
- WP:BASIC notability, either), from the mainspace encyclopedia at this time. A redirect means the history is preserved and it can be restored and edited in the future, after notability is supported according to guidelines and policy. Beccaynr (talk) 11:46, 23 March 2023 (UTC)]
- Also, per WP:BLP1E,]
Biographies in these cases can give undue weight to the event and conflict with neutral point of view. In such cases, it is usually better to merge the information and redirect the person's name to the event article
, although it is not clear to me that there is substantial content to merge at this time. Beccaynr (talk) 13:45, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Also, per
- The guideline is
- @Nomadwikiholic Which guideline of wikipedia says that "at same time with same reviews two topic can't be notable" and "only 1 topic should stay on mainspace and another topic should be redirected"? 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙♂️Let's Talk ! 11:15, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- @LordVoldemort728: According to those reviews the book(also the author) is notable but at same time with same reviews two topic can't be notable. So in that case only 1 topic should stay on mainspace and another topic should be redirected. Nomadwikiholic (talk) 11:09, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. The article subject satisfies WP:NAUTHOR are satisfied as a policy based rationale for keeping. Shawn Teller (talk) 23:11, 23 March 2023 (UTC)]
- @Shawn Teller, how does she meet GNG? JoelleJay (talk) 00:04, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect, per Beccaynr. I agree the lack of coverage in combination with NOT and BLP1E indicate a standalone on the author is not warranted. JoelleJay (talk) 23:57, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep absolutely passes the notability criteria. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 08:39, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
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