Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Calibretto 13

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. Harley Poe does not appear to make sense as an ATD as band members went on to other blue-linked bands, but editors may create one at their discetion. Star Mississippi 02:04, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Calibretto 13

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Unsourced since 2013 and I can't find enough significant coverage that would show they need their own article. The only point in their favour (as far as I can tell, anyway) is that they released albums on Tooth & Nail Records, a significant indie label, but I'm not sure that's enough. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 06:43, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Indiana. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 06:43, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment that I forgot to include in my original message: if the consensus is that they shouldn't have their own article, it might be best to redirect to Harley Poe? Not sure though. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 06:45, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:39, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see know cause for deletion of the article. A number of bands, roughly the same size from Tooth and Nail Records have their own Wikipedia pages. While there are not a lot of sources available, I think the deletion of the page would be a further loss of information. Theo1858 (talk) 16:49, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still not convinced that they're notable enough considering the lack of coverage - Discogs doesn't convey notability in the slightest (and is generally considered an unreliable source due to being user-generated), Concert Archives is at least partially user-generated and doesn't require artists listed to be notable, and the Harley Poe review is only a passing mention. There is the one Punk News review of Dead By Dawn, but I don't think that's enough to convince me. We'll see what others say, I guess. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 11:50, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At this point I would say Calibretto meets Notability section 1 criterion, with multiple published album reviews in newspapers, print magazines, and punk zines.

They also meet criterion section 5, with two full length albums and 1 EP released on Tooth and Nail Records (A notable independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable, and a significant impact within a specific music genre (alternative Christian punk and hardcore scene)

The band's music was also featured in multiple published works including the Stephen Baldwin produced documentary "Livin It" and the WB tv show "What's New, Scooby Doo?". Theo1858 (talk) 16:42, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 18:05, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.