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Perry Crossing, Indiana

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Another bit of an oddity in that it shows up rather late (1960s), but it's not a suburban development or anything like that. As far as I can tell, it is the road of that name crossing the railroad tracks, though I can't get anything that says that. Even before I took steps to exclude the shopping center on the outskirts of Indianapolis, hits were down in the clickbait range; most are real estate hits, especially for an "at Perry Crossing" complex which is actually a mile or so west. Book hits are all either fed gazetteer stuff, other fed pubs, or chance juxtapositions. Maybe this is a locale, but I have nothing. Mangoe (talk) 02:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Indiana. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete If it doesn't appear on maps until the 60s, it was likely an informal local term that somehow got added to a map, then into GNIS, then here, where we have invented a nonexistent community. Nothing found. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 13:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Local papers leave it clear this just a road called "Perry's Crossing". It doesn't actually cross the tracks, because that road on the other side is a different later road. It does however cross Silver Creek, and is probably named for whoever owned the land that the crossing was on. Way back, when Some guy with the last name Perry probably built a toll bridge across the creek.James.folsom (talk) 23:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vesta, Indiana

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Another "no there there" spot, I was able to penetrate the veil of searching and get a couple of hits that weren't reassuring. Baird mentions it in passing several times, once calling it a town and once referring to the post office, but doesn't say anything about it directly. A bank plat map of the county from 1918 shows the name, but there's nothing there but several farms. Mangoe (talk) 18:43, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Slatecut, Indiana

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Another post office back entered to GNIS from the 1876 state atlas: at least that's what Baird says, and given that it seems to be a nondescript rail point, I can believe that. Mangoe (talk) 02:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wilson, Indiana

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Here we have a puzzle. There are two data implying that this a rail point. First, the label starts out right next to the tracks before drifting south on more recent maps, towards a string of houses on Rt. 60. Second, GMaps informs us that the name of the road that crosses the tracks at this point is named "Wilson Switch Rd." Against this I have, well, nothing, because searching is pretty much hopeless. The question is whether that string of houses is now known as Wilson or not, and here I draw a blank. Mangoe (talk) 03:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is an interesting one, partly because there seem to be multiple names associated with the same location. A 1908 map identifies the settlement as "Dallas", while others like this plat map show it as "Wilson". (An 1875 map gives it as "Wilson Station" and notes an accompanying mill.) When time permits I'll aim to check the local histories in more detail, but the fact that it's been consistently present on area maps for the last 150 years suggests it was at one point an actual settlement, so for now I think it's best to keep it. ╠╣uw [talk] 09:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Searching for just Wilson got me nowhere, so I tried Wilson Switch, and I got some interesting results. A 1973 story about sales tax called Wilson Switch a community of 300, but this 1991 story about the local landfill just refers to the locals as "Wilson Switch Road residents", as do later stories about landfill projects. Earlier mentions of Wilson Switch were mostly about car accidents or railway incidents in the area, which doesn't clarify much. Wilson is still on the latest Indiana state highway map, though I don't know how thorough Indiana is about vetting small communities. Not sure which way I lean on this one. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 01:11, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indiana University Informatics & Communications Technology Complex

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Most substantial source cited is a student newspaper article from time of construction. Further searches suggest that neither original construction or recent developments appear to have generated significant independent coverage. All coverage is from university or contractor press releases, or passing mentions as location of various departments. No indication building meets

WP:NBUILD. Triptothecottage (talk) 23:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Sylvan Grove, Indiana

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This was back-entered onto the maps from GNIS, which cites an 1876 atlas of the state. Baird's History of Clark County, Indiana on p. 100 has a very brief reference to it as a post office, and I found nothing else of relevance other than that there was a school there at some point. I just don't see that there was ever a settlement here. Mangoe (talk) 02:20, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: No information found; furthermore, the coordinates don't match the description in Baird's, which says Sylvan Grove was one quarter mile south of Memphis, while the coordinates are for a site about a mile southeast of Memphis. Someone made a mistake somewhere, and we might be able to figure out where if we had information, which we do not. Thus, delete. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 14:17, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The marker is probably in the wrong place because Sylvan Grove is 3 miles NW of Charlestown, I think it's more likely along the other road running NW. Problematically it's also this guys birthplace Jefferson_C._Davis [1]. Someone in Clarke county also graduated from "Sylvan Grove". Those were the only two hits in the local paper. This is just me dropping a hot potato and fleeing.James.folsom (talk) 00:09, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rolling Hills, Clark County, Indiana

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A NN subdivision built sometime in the 1950s/'60s. Mangoe (talk) 19:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per the nominator's rationale. I find no reference to this before the mid-20th century; it does seem to be at best just a neighborhood or subdivision. ╠╣uw [talk] 09:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This Subdivision. Local papers have few mentions. 1-2, here is an example [2]James.folsom (talk) 23:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Pleasant, Cass County, Indiana

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According to the county history source, this "nearly extinct" town never really took off in the first place. This is the kind of place that gives

WP:GEOLAND a bad name, because even though one can use the two sources to give a location and something of a history, there's no way this place passess any real notability standard, and so I predict we will be left arguing whether this was a real ~~unincorporated community~~town or not. Mangoe (talk) 03:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Delete: The history of Cass County, Indiana [3] has one mention of a Mount Pleasant, and it's Mount Pleasant, Ohio. If that source doesn't have anything we don't have much to go by. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 14:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete,
WP:GEOLAND doesn't apply to communities that possibly don't even exist. Samoht27 (talk) 16:45, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete, I still fine with deleting because, it's no notable, but should point out that the 3 reference page 482 describes it as a paper town. It had a stored whose primary clientele were native americans buying firewater, several people lived there, and it was platted. It subsisted off of traffic along the the road prior to building of a railway when it died forgood. So it sorta existed, 1836-mid1850s but the source does call it a "paper town" which I assume means they considered it a failed venture.James.folsom (talk) 23:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kenneth, Indiana

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The cited history consistently refers to the place as a "flag stop", and nothing on the topos or aerials serves to rebut this; indeed, the topos indicate this was likely the name of the junction of the two rail lines. I'm not sure why the history and Forte's PO site disagree about the date the post office closed, but it's clear that thee was never a settlement here. Mangoe (talk) 14:26, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: A post office is a central part of a community. Just from cursory googling, it seems like the town at the very least DID exist, but eventually was consumed by Logansport. Currently, there is a quarry named the Old Kenneth Stone Quarry about a mile from the GPS coordinates given in the article, as well as a small town or neighborhood clearly visible from aerial photography. The town certainly exists, though perhaps we should try to dig up more sources for it. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 17:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not seeing this "small town or neighborhood". Could you give coordinates? Mangoe (talk) 01:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

40.758946, -86.458442

Kingsmasher678 (talk) 02:36, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is France Park. Mangoe (talk) 02:41, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: You are right, I have created a new article for the park that should meet the actual notability requirments. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 14:26, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Only reference 5 gives anything approaching real information (apart from name and coordinates), and it inconsistently describes Kenneth either as a rail junction or a quarry. Either way, that's not enough to establish notability as per
WP:GEOLAND. And a post office in the 19th century was not necessarily a central part of a community, as post offices could be just any sheltered place willing to accept and store mail (rural stores, farms, hotels, stagecoach inns, train stations, etc.). If more information is found we can reconsider, but there isn't much to go by. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 03:05, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 19:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The one reference that is good refers to it as the the place known as kenneth in 1918, but phrases it such that I think that was a recent thing. In 1916, several kids were injured leaping from the train at Kenneth due to the fact it didn't stop. So we know it was indeed a flag stop, due to that. I don't know how that works, I just know the train clearly didn't stop regularly there. During that period there is indication the area is known as Kenneth, but no mention of anything indicating a town. No stores or other commerce, just the quarry. The train station would have a post office just because the quarry was there, and probably the quarry loaded stone there. The quarry was an attraction to local youth as late as 1957 when the sheriff rounded up some kids there.James.folsom (talk) 23:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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