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The result was keep. Guerillero Parlez Moi 22:50, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Colorado Springs Christian Schools

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Almost no coverage by independent reliable sources, and the only ref available is no longer verifiable (I'm getting Error 500). Tube·of·Light 12:49, 9 June 2022 (UTC) Current state of sourcing is accceptable, so now, I believe that the article should be kept. Tube·of·Light 01:07, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Schools, and Colorado. Tube·of·Light 12:49, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 14:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Can't find secondary sources myself; can't redirect to school district because this is a private school. Iseult Δx parlez moi 14:38, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • NOTE: the school k-12 has maybe 862 students and has been around for some 50 years. links describing it include https://www.ecfa.org/MemberProfile.aspx?ID=6283 (finances) Rabey, Steve (2022-05-01). "Colorado Springs Christian Schools celebrates 50 years". Colorado Springs Gazette. Retrieved 2022-06-11.. It is part of Association of Christian Schools International --Erp (talk) 17:01, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Enough sourcing to meet
    WP:GNG as with any American secondary school. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:07, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
    ]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 13:56, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, per Google maps, Colorado Springs Christian Schools includes
    • a middle school at 4845 Mallow Rd.
    • a Colorado Springs Christian High School at 4825 Mallow Rd.
This is a school district, IMO, and as that plus being a charitable nonprofit with reporting requirements there will exist substantial coverage, in addition to high school sports reporting level stuff. Performing
wp:BEFORE is a requirement or recommendation before nominating articles for deletion; the nominator mentions searching and implies that reliable sources do exist ("almost no coverage by independent reliable sources' -> they did find some coverage). --Doncram (talk) 16:11, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
]
There is now ongoing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hilltop Baptist School, where discussion has developed that Hilltop Baptist School is in fact notable. Scandal there, enrollment drop, and closure might relate to enrollment increases at Colorado Springs Christian Schools. Also in general CHCS enrollment increases documented in some sources (I forget which ive seen) deserve coverage in this article. --Doncram (talk) 02:46, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nonprofit financial info: Continuing, it is a school district with revenues of $8,716,551 and assets of $10,949,710, as easily available from the main source on nonprofit financials, www.guidestar.org, which is free to all for use (requires opening a free account).
    Form 990s
    are available immediately online for 2019, 2018, 2017 filings (about 2018, 2017, 2016 fiscal years). From the 2019 one, the required brief description of the organization’s mission is:

    COLORADO SPRINGS CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS (CSCS) IS A COLORADO NONPROFIT CORPORATION WHICH EXISTS TO PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION FROM A BIBLICAL CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE FOR LIFELONG SERVICE CSCS WAS FOUNDED IN 1971 OUT OF THE NEED FOR BIBLE­CENTERED EDUCATION FOR THE CHILDREN OF CHRISTIAN FAMILIES CSCS SEEKS TO BE AN EXTENSION OF THE HOME AND THE CHURCH, PROVIDING A MEASURE OF CONSISTENCY REGARDING INPUT INTO THE LIFE OF THE CHILD CSCS SERVES THE HOME AND THE CHURCH IN THE REALM OF CHRISTIAN CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS IN ACADEMIC, PHYSICAL, SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL AREAS THE SCHOOLS HAVE PROGRAMS FOR KINDERGARTEN THROUGH SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

  • Typical sports type reporting found easily by Google searching "Colorado Springs Christiann High School" in "news" category:
  • Feature type article: Colorado Springs Christian Schools celebrates 50 years, by Steve Rabey, May 1, 2022 in Colorado Springs Gazette. Among other things it mentions affiliation with Association of Christian Schools International. It seems possible to me that superintendent Roland DeRenzo (currently a redlink) is a wikipedia-notable person. It states:

    CSCS has seen more than 10,000 students enter its doors and 3,228 graduate. The school now has 1,150 students — including some in Woodland Park and Westcliffe — 130 employees and an $8 million budget. Tuition costs $6,500 to $9,700 a year. / The 2021 class graduated 71 students, who won more than $5 million in academic scholarships to attend some of the country’s best secular and Christian colleges. Many grads have attended the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs, a mile to the east, and some now work there.

  • routine news / Covid news type articles: "Christian schools note growing enrollment as parents seek alternatives to public schools", by Debbie Kelley, Oct 25, 2021, in Pikes Peak Courier (currently a redlink) (Article appears to be a reprint from Colorado Springs Gazette, and/or Pikes Peak Courier is another newspaper in Gazette's ownership/portfolio.) Includes:

    A difference in pandemic practices created what Roland DeRenzo, superintendent of Colorado Springs Christian Schools, calls “a wave of enthusiasm for recruitment season.” / Parents noticed that the pandemic’s typical seesawing between live classroom instruction and remote learning didn’t seem to be happening at faith-based schools. / “Parents were so hungry and excited and had an intensity in getting students back in seats,” he said. / Like many private religious schools, Colorado Springs Christian Schools stayed open after mandatory closures lifted last spring, while still following public health practices, such as installing air filtration systems and stepping up cleaning.

There will be other news type stuff.
I'll stop here. I rather expect there is plenty more, that's just in first 2 pages of Google results. Perhaps the nominator and participants so far did not search on "Colorado Springs Christian High School". --Doncram (talk) 16:42, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment @Doncram: it was a difficult to read through the above given some list formatting issues; however, "typical sports reporting" doesn't make a school notable especially when the divisions it plays in are quite low down. Nonprofit status certainly doesn't on its own. A quote by the superintendent in a local newspaper article doesn't make a school notable. There is one feature type article which had already been mentioned. Note I couldn't even find the school in the US News & World Report listings thought that is probably the school's decision not to be listed (it also wouldn't make it notable but would be some independent info). --Erp (talk) 18:19, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • some more stuff:
    Last one is not about the school. The public school district sold the building to a charter school, Mountain Song Community School. Announcing the addition of an 8th grade is hardly noteworthy beyond the local community. The Fox21 story is all of 5 sentences long and a picture which shows a sparse crowd at the celebration. Erp (talk) 20:00, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To User:Erp, thank you for bearing with formatting issues in my postings here, which have been mitigated somewhat by subsequent edits. Also thanks for identifying non-relevance if one article i cited, since struck-through by me. It takes a village, or something like that . --Doncram (talk) 03:09, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The articles that significantly cover Colorado Springs Christian Schools so far mentioned is: Celebrating 50 years article (Colorado Springs Gazette), Growing enrollment as parents seek alternatives article (Pikes Peak Courier), and Adding 8th grade to school article (Pikes Peak Courier). Note that all of these articles come from the same organization, The Gazette. Per
WP:ORGCRITE). TheGEICOgecko (talk) 00:27, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
]

This AfD discussion has been proposed for merger to Colorado Springs, Colorado, and a notice of the proposed merger was posted to that page on June 22. As such, this AfD discussion may need to be extended or relisted to incorporate input from that page.

  • Oppose merger, support keeping the article now that notability is proven (I am the nominator) The article subject is too minor to be mentioned in the Colorado Springs article. Tube·of·Light 05:01, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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