Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Kendall (politician)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete all. I'm not deleting Victoria Cook since this discussion didn't get that much attention after her inclusion, listing her article on a separate afd instead. - Bobet 12:59, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

David Kendall (politician)

Non-notability: local politician of no great achievement. Martín (saying/doing) 22:36, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are councillors on the same authority:

Delete all per nom. Hardy was a mayor, but doesn't seem like mayor of what is important. --Dhartung | Talk 08:09, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
delete, local politicians, nn. -Sanbeg 19:30, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete almost all; neutral on Derek Hardy. Derek Hardy seems like he might be somewhat more notable than the others; if reliable sources could be found to confirm the information, I might lean to keep. Otherwise, the others are figures of such little note that it's unlikely that there are any reliable sources of sufficient quality that we can write about them. Captainktainer * Talk 04:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all - local councillors with no other claim to notability. I should like to add another Brentwood councillor Victoria Cook to the nomination. BlueValour 04:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I didn't add Cook as she was Leader of the Council, which to my mind just confers enough notability. But in reality I am neutral - it's still hard to write a sourced article on her. Martín (saying/doing) 07:54, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - it still fails
WP:BIO since it is only a borough council. There may be an argument for the leader of a County Council but I think borough councils are too far down the food chain. The US equivalent is leader of a city council and we have previously agreed that that is not notable. I have googled for '"Victoria Cook" councillor' and '"Victoria Cook" Brentwood' and got no independent returns so if we keep the article, as you say, it cannot be sourced. BlueValour 16:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply
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Comment - I am not sure I agree with the borough vs county argument in England. Here boroughs actually have a considerable amount of power and counties reduced to a rump providing rural education, transport and planning. Most metropolitan boroughs, including in London, have complete local authority with no county council at all as they are unitary authorities. My own 'borough', the London Borough of Croydon, has 350,000 residents and is larger than most counties. It's parish councils and town councils which are the non-executive, non-notable levels of authority here. In a UK context, we either would have to have no council leaders including counties, or allow counties, boroughs and districts. That said, I have no real objection in this case unless it sets a policy precedent. Martín (saying/doing) 16:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - the huge difference is that the London Borough of Croydon has most of the broad powers of a unitary authority whereas a borough council doesn't have, most importantly, any responsibility for education. Brentwood is not a metropolitan borough (which Croydon is) (if it was I might well agree with you). I live in a similar borough (West Lancashire) and the leader of the council has low profile since the big decisions are made at Lancashire County Hall. BlueValour 17:14, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.