Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deep trance identification

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Deep trance identification

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• Delete - based on a single fringe source, treating it as fact. The article quality is lacking as well: Even if the topic would be notable the article would have to be rewritten completely. --mfb (talk) 02:52, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - While it appeals to more notable things, literature about this particular "DTI" is scant. If we can't find reliable sources that confirm or falsify some hypotheses presented here like that hypnosis allows people to recover child-like learning abilities, it's non-notable... —PaleoNeonate – 14:45, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. No indication of notability. Uncritical presentation of the theory's claims in Wikipedia's voice. Bishonen | talk 19:34, 16 June 2019 (UTC).[reply]

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• Weak keep. The article may be in bad shape, but AfD is not cleanup. I see a few references in reliable sources to this concept. Ex. "Voluntary possession, on the other hand, seems to be much closer to what is known in the literature as deep trance identification, that is..." [1] or " I also had a number of very unique direct encounters with Virginia Satir through an Ericksonian technique called deep trance identification." [2] and otherwise a few Google Scholar hits which imply this is a bit more than some hoax (through I haven't looked into whether those articles are really reliable). Now, I have no objections to removing all uncited/unreliable content from the article, but as far as notability of the concept itself this may be an ok topic. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:58, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. I think this suppose to mean Learning under hypnosis. At least, that is what Vladimir Raikov (noted on the page) was trying to do. If they succeeded is a little controversial, but that is definitely something notable and can be reliably sourced [3]. Probably the best course of action would be to delete this page and create "Learning under hypnosis" if anyone cares. My very best wishes (talk) 18:22, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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