Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erika Tazawa

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The result was Delete. Hut 8.5 21:52, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Erika Tazawa

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No substance at all to suggest the independent notability and my searches are not finding anything better. SwisterTwister talk 21:25, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. NewYorkActuary (talk) 04:18, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. NewYorkActuary (talk) 04:18, 9 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been notified to WikiProject Classical music. Voceditenore (talk) 11:00, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: this site suggests a lot more notability, possibly. I am not familiar enough with the competitions and awards to evaluate it accurately. I think we need to call over some classical music editors to check this out. Montanabw^(talk) 04:37, 17 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• This seems a minor competition (takes place in church halls apparently), and there is no coverage of the competition from major sources or institutions as far as I can see from Googling. It does not imo contribute to making the article subject notable and I would be in favour of delete.--Smerus (talk) 07:21, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment This fails GNG for English language sources. I'm pinging MSJapan to ask if there are any Japanese sources available. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 10:37, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Comment I'm here via
  WP:MUSICBIO. The profile at Classical Pianists of the Future is for one of the artists which they are promoting, and not at all independent of the subject. None of the awards are notable. There is no evidence of performances in major concert venues or festivals (and not even reviews available for the minor ones—I've looked). There is only one recording as a soloist. The label, Belarca Records, is very marginally notable if at all, and was basically founded by William Susman to promote his own compositions and his Octet Ensemble (both those articles are very poor, referenced largely to Amazon pages, etc., as is the one on their first recording Scatter My Ashes). There is a a considerable overlap in the creators and main editors of all three of those articles and of Erika Tazawa. The article under consideration here was created shortly after the release of her Belarca cd, Rhythm of Silence. Excerpts from the CD were played once on a local radio station KPFA [1]. KBFA is not part of NPR. I can find no evidence of her recording or performances ever being broadcast by the BBC or NPR. I'm going to hold off on a final opinion in case something else surfaces, but at the moment I'm leaning pretty strongly to deletion. In my view, the other articles in this "suite" should also be carefully scrutinized. Voceditenore (talk) 11:00, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Updated my comment above to a definite delete. Nothing has emerged which indicates that the subject passes either

WP:GNG Voceditenore (talk) 14:20, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply

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• In view of Voceditenore's comments above (... considerable overlap in the creators and main editors of all three of those articles and of Erika Tazawa) I initiated Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Susman / Sommacal hoping this would bring some clarity on whether or not there are undiclosed COIs that needs to be taken into consideration for this AfD. Otherwise, on first sight, I'd say delete per the analyses provided above by Smerus and Voceditenore. --Francis Schonken (talk) 13:20, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure there probably is some COI editing going on, but that isn't a consideration in the decision to delete an article if the subject is notable, unless the article is such a blatant advert that it would need to be completely rewritten, which is not the case here. The primary problem is there is no evidence that subject meets the inclusion critera. Voceditenore (talk) 13:26, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't implying a direct influence (otherwise I wouldn't have started a separate topic on a noticeboard), but I can, for instance, see a potentially COI editor being invited to this AfD (as it happens the same editor who successfully counteracted the deletion of another article of the same pool of connected articles – as it happens a biography of one of the composers of Tazawa's CD) – In the case such editor would cast a !vote here, it would make a difference, when assessing the weight of that opinion, whether there is a COI or not. So, for this AfD, just a heads up for what may result from the COIN thread. --Francis Schonken (talk) 14:27, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Also, possibly there is a fourth editor in the pool: this editor created an article on yet another composer of Tazawa's CD, but that article has since been deleted (see User talk:Contemporarymuslover#Proposed deletion of Francesco di fiore). Lacking the edit history of the deleted article I wasn't sure whether to add them to the COIN thread (and finally didn't because they have only one remaining edit). --Francis Schonken (talk) 14:59, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - I'm not voting because I'm only providing sources and don't have time to dig on this otherwise at present. There's a few Japanese sources. I've sourced her name in Japanese, but that source doesn't confer notability - I only used it because it's an independent entry unrelated to the subject. There's a focused article here which is mirrored here (just so nobody thinks they're different). There's also a list of concert dates in Japan here, bnack from 2003-04. She also gets a mention for a concert at the Japanese Embassy in Atlanta here as a member of the ensemble "Kanade" that is performing. Kanade gets a performace reference for a festival here, with coverage here and here, mirror of #2, for it. MSJapan (talk) 18:08, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete This is a GNG fail. Apart from the article in the Japanese community magazine, the rest seems to be all trivial and routine coverage. Concert dates and simply being part of an ensemble doesn't confer notability. I don't see any notable albums either. Overall, the illusion of the
  WP:WALLEDGARDEN deceived me for a while, but now it is a clear delete. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 10:39, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply
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• Weak delete per the [{TOOSOON]] assessment of the classical music editors. I am willing to reconsider my position should additional source material be found. Montanabw^(talk) 00:02, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. None of the reference sources included in the article constitutes anything approaching the "in-depth third-party coverage" normally demanded for biographical articles. --DAJF (talk) 12:46, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Fails
  WP:TOOSOON at best.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 13:47, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply
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