Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FBG Duck
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The result was delete. I don't see the keep rationales as persuasive. If he popularized the term "clout" and was such a prominent figure, surely there would be sources? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 14:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
FBG Duck
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With only one uncharted EP, fails
]- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Stephen 04:23, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 04:36, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep He definitely meets WP:BLP1E, this only loosely applies here... as most sources cover his life, music and popularity in the Chicago scene. --Numkalcon (talk) 05:26, 7 August 2020 (UTC)]
- YouTube is not an RS, and especially not according to page views - David Gerard (talk) 07:49, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- He is not mentioned in the drill music article. Stephen 05:34, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
- This is presumably because he did not have a Wikipedia page. Most people listed in the article like Chief Keef come from the exact same crew/group. Drill music being mostly a genre of back-and-forth beef, FBG Duck was from the opposite crew as Chief Keef. He was arguably the biggest rapper from that side. For some reason he did not collaborate with larger artists, nor did he do much media appearances. But anyone familiar with the drill music scene knows that Duck is at least one of the top 10 if not top 5 biggest drill artists of all times, based on not only views (100s of Millions) but also notability. --Numkalcon (talk) 00:39, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Every source is seemingly about him being murdered. Jon Benet Ramsey or George Floyd, but I don't think there is much of an argument that FBG Duck meets that standard) Grung0r (talk) 08:14, 7 August 2020 (UTC)]
- Delete. Fails WP:BLP1E as the reports of a shooting, even in reliable sources, do not establish notability of the victim. Views on Youtube are not relevant, and no further evidence has been presented that he was a high profile individual. Modest Genius talk 12:27, 7 August 2020 (UTC)]
- Delete per • whaddya want? • 13:50, 7 August 2020 (UTC)]
- Delete, per nom. The subject does not meet ]
- Keep It's a slim one but I'm going to create a rule as per WP:JimmyWales. Unless the addition of pages adds to a server overload (it doesn't) I see no reason to limit the sum of all human knowledge! Peace out Alexandre8 (talk) 16:18, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
- I think you were looking for ]
- Keep He popularized the term “Clout” in Hip Hop and was one of the most prominent figures in the Chicago Drill scene. dreamofdealers (talk) 17:33, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- Comment Do you have a verifiable source confirming the "clout" statement? That sounds like a major stretch. • whaddya want? • 05:22, 10 August 2020 (UTC)]
- He is not mentioned in the drill music article. Stephen 05:34, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
- CommentHe should probably be put in the drill music article. For confirming the popularization of the Clout thing, I have my doubts (seems likely that it gained status because it rhymes with about and doubt, etc; 'out' is a rather unique Anglo-Saxon sound, without too many rhymes for it -- although rhyme.com lists 56 rhymes with out, most are unusable). Whether he's the unique vector of the word's current popularity I do not know, but he did claim to be. Babyinthebarn (talk) 12:21, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
- Comment Do you have a verifiable source confirming the "clout" statement? That sounds like a major stretch.
- Keep per ]
- Comment Alas, Wikipedia is not an encyclopedia of "drill music and street culture" and it doesn't matter if we're "newcomers" to the genre. In all honesty, if FBG was such a huge figure in drill music, we'd have heard of him long beforehand and he wouldn't have one mere EP release — which did nothing — to his name. He may have been a "pioneer" in a local type of music but barely a presence on the general hip hop radar. • whaddya want? • 15:35, 10 August 2020 (UTC)]
- Comment Alas, Wikipedia is not an encyclopedia of "drill music and street culture" and it doesn't matter if we're "newcomers" to the genre. In all honesty, if FBG was such a huge figure in drill music, we'd have heard of him long beforehand and he wouldn't have one mere EP release — which did nothing — to his name. He may have been a "pioneer" in a local type of music but barely a presence on the general hip hop radar.
- Delete per WP:BLP1E. I'm not convinced by the keep arguments - we need to see evidence in reliable sources that he was influential in drill music, not just assertions.-- P-K3 (talk) 19:00, 10 August 2020 (UTC)]
- Delete - Fails WP:MUSICBIO. Unable to locate (except obituaries) any significant biographical details except this, which is a primary source interview. No indication of awards or charted songs. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:16, 11 August 2020 (UTC)]
- Delete: Fails WP:ITSIMPORTANT arguments: if the subject was really such a key figure as all of that, there would be reliable sources saying so. There are not; the obvious conclusion is that he wasn't. Ravenswing 00:57, 16 August 2020 (UTC)]
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