Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Falkie Atoll

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The result was delete. Tone 17:54, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Falkie Atoll

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According to ru:Википедия:К_удалению/6_августа_2019#Фолки, this article may be a hoax. ParticipantOfTheEncyclopedia (talk) 15:32, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as hoax per nom. ~~Are we sure? It's mentioned in Infos Solomon Islands, for instance, but that's not a great source.~~ Can't find it in the gazetteer section of my atlas. And the history may well be made up. The link to EB (the only source in the article) finds nothing relevant. The Russian Wiki linked above says: Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:09, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
[translation from Russian] "Big problems with Wikipedia:Verifiability: RS is not and are not searched for by any of the names in English and Russian, so that none of the facts listed in the article can be confirmed. According to the coordinates indicated in our article, there is the Ontong-Java Atoll. In an English article, the coordinates from the very beginning point to the Deep Blue Sea, and the positional map added by the anonymous author points to the area of the Vanuatu Islands. Collectively, it looks like a fake .-- Yellow Horror (obs.) 13:07, August 6, 2019 (UTC)"

[translation from Russian] "Yes, it looks like they created a fake on en-wiki, but they transferred it to us. About the discoverer of this atoll, too, no information is sought. Igor Borisenko (obs.) 13:19, August 6, 2019 (UTC)"
- It's not a source at all. It's a copy of Wikipedia's Solomon Islands article. Uncle G (talk) 21:20, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - Ah, many thanks. Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:55, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have found nothing about this. No plausible map reference error. No documentation at all. Given that the creator of the article predicted the future with
Vaghena Island, the editor's other creation, is not the common spelling and has an incorrect map reference. Wagina Island does not appear to have a Kenli Bay, either. Uncle G (talk) 21:20, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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- Re: premiers, it could be they're elected on a 3 year term. Admittedly, none of the names produce any hits on search engines. Daß Wölf 06:25, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - Even if that were true, it would be a prediction of the future that the person claimed would last the full term. In fact Special:Diff/410502410 undid this vandalism when someone from Guam finally noticed and Jackson Kiloe was not replaced by someone else in 2006 as the creator of this article had claimed. All of the contributions of Dakrommel (talk · contribs) are turning out to be subtle vandalism. Uncle G (talk) 08:38, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Only finding open sea at the claimed coordinates. [1] If it can be proven this is an actual land mass or even an atoll, I'll re-examine. Oakshade (talk) 05:15, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- What you will find at the coördinates if you look more thoroughly, is the lagoon in the middle of the Ontong Java Atoll, as the Russian editors pointed out. Uncle G (talk) 08:38, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
~~Weak~~ delete - This is most of the Britannica paywalled article which is the article's sole reference. From what can be read there it's unlikely Falkie/Van Ren Atoll is mentioned in the 26 words that are still unavailable. This bigger text about Shortland Islands again doesn't mention anything called Falkie or Van Ren. Additionally, the Japanese name ("Keinain-shima") doesn't sound very plausible to me. Added to the above comments I think it's enough to say that ATM we don't have sufficient evidence that this place exists. Input from someone local to the area would be very beneficial, though. Daß Wölf 06:25, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- It also did not come up in a search of a 1944 U.S. Hydrographic Office gazetteer of the Solomon Islands et al., which was another thing that I checked. Uncle G (talk) 08:38, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- You may open the full version of "Britannica online" article here, then use the "See Article History" link to make sure the article has never mentioned the atoll in question.--Yellow Horror (talk) 21:16, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thank you both. That sounds convincing enough to remove the "weak" part. Daß Wölf 01:24, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Oceania-related deletion discussions. Daß Wölf 06:26, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islands-related deletion discussions. Daß Wölf 06:26, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The coordinates in the article body are different from those on top, and return empty ocean. All sources I could find that mention this place are Wikipedia mirrors or not reliable and probably got their information from here. The alternate name "Van Ren Atoll" returns only mirrors, as does the supposed explorer "Jale Van Ren". Nice find!
talk) 17:27, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Delete Obvious hoax. Given all the details described in the history section it's inconceivable that no online sources exist.----Pontificalibus 06:37, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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