Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Genocide and Resistance Research Centre of Lithuania

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The result was speedy keep. Not entirely sure this was a good faith nomination, given the nominator's commments on several Lithuania-related talk pages.

Non-admin closure. Erpert (let's talk about it) 07:02, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply

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Genocide and Resistance Research Centre of Lithuania

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This organisaton is not notable. It is also not good to have a link to their website, because it might be factually inaccurate Nefesf9 (talk) 21:35, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep - Organization founded in 1988 and publisher of a journal. Difficult to see why this is being challenged. Carrite (talk) 21:40, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I found no hits on google news archives and while I did not check all of the hits on google.books everyone I did check was simply another book by
WP:N and delete Active Banana (talk) 21:49, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply
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Strong keep. Speedy in fact. The center appears to have been commissioned by the Lithuanian government. The Centre appears to be referred to by many outside publications [1]. There's a ton of hits on Google and Google books. If someone's not seeing the evidence for notability of the center, they're just not willing to look. Also, I suspect that the nomination, as well as Active Banana's support for deletion is POV motivated as they are both involved in removing text cited to the center from several article (personally, atm, I have no opinion as to the Centre's reliability - but that's not the issue here, notability is).
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NOTE - those are the same hits I found. The hits include Wikipedia mirror Icon Inc and numerous books published by Genocide and Resistance Research Centre of Lithuania itself. Can you actually identify any third party reliable sources? Active Banana (talk) 23:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Umm, what? Baltic Yearbook of International Law, published by Martinus Nijhoff Publishers, Who is who in Lithuania: Lithuania's Achievements, 2004 published by

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I will let the "significant content" and/or

reputation of the publsihers for fact checking and accuracy of your examples speak for themselves. Active Banana (talk) 02:21, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply

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Strong keep - A few sources to consider: http://www.lituanus.org/2009/09_3_06%20Latkovski.html ; http://www.travel-lithuania.com/pages/Vilnius/78/Museum_of_Genocide_Victims ; http://www.victimsofcommunism.org/links.php . I must admit it looks like a very odd nomination... these sources were really easy to find, and I'm sure someone who actually spoke any Lithuanian could find plenty more rather quickly. DubZog (talk) 22:56, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep for the reasons given above. Having a link to an official webpage is not an unusual practice in Wikiepedia articles. Prsaucer1958 (talk) 23:19, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Having a link to the official site is, in fact, encouraged. When the official webiste is the only "source" however, the article fails to meet

WP:N in having significant coverage by reliable third party sources. Active Banana (talk) 00:05, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply

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Take a look at http://books.google.com/books?id=faFmAAAAMAAJ&q=Genocide+and+Resistance+Research+Centre+of+Lithuania&dq=Genocide+and+Resistance+Research+Centre+of+Lithuania&hl=en&ei=7_pATKHXNMusOI6ixYkN&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CEUQ6AEwBw and also the links I provided, before saying that there isn't any significant coverage by reliable third party sources again! DubZog (talk) 00:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Says nothing about this organization. Try againActive Banana (talk) 00:41, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

They only don't say anything about this organization if you're not even willing to read them! On http://www.victimsofcommunism.org/links.php there's the following passage of information: "The Genocide and Resistance Research Centre of Lithuania is a state institution which investigates all manifestations of genocide and crimes against humanity, the persecution during the Soviet and Nazi occupations, and the armed and peaceful resistance to the occupations. It also gives juridical evaluations of the perpetrators of the reprisals and genocide, and immortalises the memory of the freedom fighters and genocide victims." On http://www.travel-lithuania.com/pages/Vilnius/78/Museum_of_Genocide_Victims it is said that the organization runs a museum. Also, the fact that this organization has published several books that appear on google books' review is an indication of notability. The situation is so clear-cut, that it should be a speedy keep, and Active Banana only seems to be keeping the discussion going for the reason of some personal disliking towards the organization. DubZog (talk) 00:59, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is becoming a transparent case of IDIDN'THEARTHAT.

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Speedy keep - expanded & ref'ed. Obviously notable and the nominations is very spurious. Renata (talk) 01:17, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lithuania-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 03:33, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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