Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George Washington Tower

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The result was merge to List of University of Massachusetts Amherst residence halls. Randykitty (talk) 18:46, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

George Washington Tower

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Article on dormitory that fails to satisfy

• Keep Article is among some of the tallest buildings in town, but besides that, it appears in The New York Times, Massachusetts A town site, about an incident that was reported in many publications at the time, and many others. If needed, I could ask contacts at the UMass Library system to dig up some information, as I know there are things like this website that have been created because of the information they have. Regardless, just because an article isn't up to the standards of an editor, generally doesn't mean it should be deleted.
  talk) 00:30, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:00, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:00, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:00, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That a news event occurred in a building does not make the building inherently notable, nor do those sources qualify under GNG. GNG requires significant, reliable secondary sources. If such sources are presented, I would be open to withdrawing this AfD.--TM 02:24, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete A building such as a dormitory does not become notable just because protests, racial incidents and graffiti tagging occurred there. Being one of the three tallest buildings in Amherst, Massachusetts is not a plausible claim of notability. We would need significant coverage of the architectural or historical signficance of the building, which is lacking. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:24, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: ... and, given that it's one of five such towers built in the "Southwest" dormitory area of UMass, yeah, it's lacking. What this is is just a high-rise dorm building, indistinguishable from JQA, Kennedy, Coolidge and Adams, unless you're familiar enough with the campus to know which is which. It's not that this isn't "up to the standards of an editor" -- it's not up to the standards of Wikipedia, and there aren't sources which meet the GNG that describe this tower in "significant detail," as opposed to Southwest or the high-rises as a whole, or of a passing mention that fails SIGCOV. Ravenswing 05:23, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to
  wp:anchor that could be created, within that list. Other similar short articles linked from that list-article's "buildings" section should also be merged back there, probably, as this and others seem to lack enough separate coverage in reliable sources to meet Wikipedia's standard for notability on their own. But the topic of all the buildings definitely will be okay. Before I found the residence halls list-article I was going to suggest creating a list of all significant buildings on the campus, to be titled List of University of Massachusetts Amherst buildings or similarly. Note there are currently 35 lists in Category:Lists of university and college buildings in the United States. The one paragraph about this one dorm building is fine as an entry in a dot-pointed list or in a table-ized list, within the residence halls list article. The University of Massachusetts Amherst article specifically mentions a number of buildings that should be included in a more general list-article. Merging and redirecting preserves the edit history and credit, per Wikipedia's promise to contributors. --doncram 06:37, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply
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• Comment: I don't give a rat's patootie to preserving someone's "credit" -- that decidedly not being what Wikipedia is all about -- but I'm not opposed to a redirect to the main UMass article, to a list article such as Doncram describes, or to a more general article about the
  Southwest Residential Area, which has been the focus of enough significant events over the years to meet the GNG. Ravenswing 21:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply
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• Well it is part of basics of Wikipedia and licensing terms, that others who copy from a Wikipedia article are bound to give credit, e.g. by listing or linking to list of contributors to the article. Also, IMO, deleting contributions unnecessarily within AFD processes and otherwise, is a big way Wikipedia editors discourage and drive away new contributors, and the trend should be stopped. At least we agree that a redirect is appropriate, and that will actually save the record of contribution and allow anything to be used elsewhere. --doncram 23:59, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Fails
  WP:GNG. Has not received significant coverage in independent sources. --Hirolovesswords (talk) 06:25, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply
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• Comment. This AFD is related to
  wp:MULTIAFD. Commenters here should consider commenting there, too, for efficiency. --doncram 23:59, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply
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• Merge – Apparently doncram and I have been looking at the same things and came to the same conclusion. In Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John F. Kennedy Tower I suggested merging all 5 of these towers into List of University of Massachusetts Amherst residence halls, and I'd like to suggest the same thing here. I think doing so would improve that article. – Margin1522 (talk) 03:46, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge / delete. I'd like to throw another merge option into the mix: Campus of the University of Massachusetts Amherst. If the section grows enough to warrant its own article, we can revisit later, but for now it's small enough to fit neatly into one of several relevant articles. Jsharpminor (talk) 03:34, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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