Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/House of Dinaraja

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The result was speedy delete. This article was moved around to a lot of different titles but ultimately deleted as a CSD G5 before this discussion could be closed. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:38, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

House of Dinaraja

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Question: What is the name of the dynasty which started by King Vimaladharmasuriya I of Kandy?

Ánswer: History books don't give us a name. So, we don't know. It does not matter whether this dynasty has a name or not. That doesn't give someone the licence to

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Chanaka L (talk) 04:39, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sri Lanka-related deletion discussions. Chanaka L (talk) 04:39, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: The creator unilaterally moved the page to a new title mid-AfD discussion. That doesn't fix WP:VERIFY, or WP:OR concerns I am afraid. Chanaka L (talk) 05:21, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Why is that action not sufficient to address the concerns related to verifiability and original research, as highlighted by the Wikipedia policies WP:VERIFY and WP:OR?" TDRSen (talk) 05:45, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Would you mind taking a look at the modified content? under the new title of Dynasty of Vimaladharmasuriya I? TDRSen (talk) 05:47, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Royalty and nobility-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:37, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment the article is now at Dynasty of Vimaladharmasuriya I. Unless someone can providfe a better name, I would suggest we keep it as at present. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:34, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - but needs to be completely rewritten. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 17:56, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  I completely rewrite the article Golden Sun Lord (talk) 08:46, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Golden Sun Lord: Why did you removed all citations except one? Chanaka L (talk) 09:18, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I completely rewrite the article. Golden Sun Lord (talk) 09:21, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Removing citations, writing what is on your mind rather than what citations say is not rewriting. That is

WP:Original Research. Chanaka L (talk) 09:25, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply

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I obtained this information from a lecture delivered by Professor Raj Somadeva. It is noteworthy that much of Sri Lankan history remains undocumented in English or well-known journals. Kindly enlighten me if I have inadvertently included any inaccurate information. I will endeavor to update and provide additional verification. Golden Sun Lord (talk) 09:33, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize for the removal of the citations you added. I made significant changes to the article's body, which necessitated their removal. Please note that all the information I added is trustworthy, although at present, I cannot locate any English journals to use as references. I will make an effort to update and provide more verification. Rest assured that all the information presented is accurate. We learned about these historical facts in our school days from reliable textbooks. I regret that I cannot include these books as resources. Golden Sun Lord (talk) 09:28, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good gracious! References come first and then comes the text. Certainly not the other way around. If references do not exist, you cannot tell whether a subject is notable or not. Read WP:Notability. Chanaka L (talk) 09:35, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for providing me with valuable insights. I appreciate the enlightenment you have given me, and I am committed to incorporating reliable resources. Golden Sun Lord (talk) 09:55, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:42, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:41, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I was going to suggest draftify but the largely unreferenced state of the present article (Kandyan dynasty (1590–1739)) combined with the fact that the creator and most active current contributor have been blocked for sockpuppetry (Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of TDRSen) make it unlikely that the draft would be worked on. As said in the first AfD (linked in the nomination): "these related monarchs of the Kingdom of Kandy did exist. See, e.g., Kingdom_of_Kandy#Consolidation_and_interactions_with_the_Dutch:_1594–1739 and included references and Nayaks_of_Kandy#Kandy_before_the_Nayaks. Whether as the last Sinhalese rulers of Kandy (Kandy Mahanuwara dynasty per the latter article) there is enough material to support a standalone article is not clear to me". 68.189.242.116 (talk) 16:40, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's

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