Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hurricane (group)

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The result was delete. ansh666 22:14, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricane (group)

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Declined speedy, the rationale being

WP:BAND#6. Which I don't understand. anyhow, lack of notability TheLongTone (talk) 11:44, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply
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WP:ATD) is sufficient to pass A7. Regards SoWhy 12:36, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply
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@SoWhy:, true of course. I was—unsure—whether it applied though; I read ...contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles as basically demanding multiplicities to enjoin notability (i.e., one or the other, but more than one of whichever). Now, I would have suggested that the latter criterion cannot apply, as although Sanja Vučić is clearly notable, it appears she has only been a member of one "independently notable ensembles" (ZAA), not the required "two or more". Regarding the first criterion—theer might be some confusion here. Although it seems as if we have two notable members, the link for Ivana Nikolić is to a Serbian politician of the same name; the HG's website makes it pretty clear they are different people. This suggests to me that the article is resting on having one notable member who has been in one notable ensemble, which is insufficient to pass WP:BAND.
However, as I said, I'd, in any case, be in favour of this AfD, as I see them as being potentially a time-saver for the future, and the policy of the community deciding consensus rather than a patrolling admin should reign supreme. I also agree that merging / redirecting this (assuming that there is anything acceptedly sourced include) to the one notable member of the group is an acceptable outcome per ATD-R. And just to clarify, while I don't think the article passes WP:BAND, I think that a single notable member is very much enough to pass A7...ironically, if you'd based your decline on that instead of BAND, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion now  :)  ;) —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 12:53, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Serial Number 54129: Actually, I had, the "WP:BAND#6" was only the last part of a comment that read something like "having one notable member makes a band significant, cf. WP:BAND#6" but somehow the first part got lost, probably because of my mouse which has been annoying me for months now with randomly selecting text when I click somewhere (doubleclicking instead of singleclicking). I only noticed that the text was incomplete with TLT talkbacked me. Note to self: Buy new mouse. Regards SoWhy 13:16, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note to self: Join MI5 and receive training in reading invisible writing  :) —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 13:31, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@SoWhy: Slightly off-topic, but maybe you could try changing the sensitivity of your system's registering of double clicks first? Adam9007 (talk) 15:09, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Adam9007: Thanks for the tip but I tried that already. It only happens infrequently and when I click once, not twice, so mechanical failure is more likely. But that is very off-topic now ;-) Regards SoWhy 15:41, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment for now – there's nothing in English that I can find, but there are a few bits and pieces in Serbian: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6]. The trouble is, I can't read Serbian, and I don't know how many of these sources are reliable ones. This is probably a
    WP:TOOSOON case – the group have clearly modelled themselves on Destiny's Child and similar R&B acts, so it wouldn't be a surprise if they did have a hit in the near future. Richard3120 (talk) 23:50, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:32, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - There may be enough sources in the group's native tongue to demonstrate notability if anyone is interested in translating them. I was able to locate most of the sources listed by Richard3120 above. Also, do not confuse this group with the notable Hurricane (band), the metal group from the 1980s. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:42, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Is anyone !voting yet?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lourdes 16:46, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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