Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/INX Media case

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The result was keep. Tone 19:56, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

INX Media case

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Routine scandal coverage with a risk for negative BLP.

WP:NCRIME. -- Dloh cier ekim 18:07, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply

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~~Keep~~ Snow Keep Notable scam of India which had recieved significant coverage in the Indian Media. Passes
want to talk? 18:12, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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@Harshil169: No, as scams and political mudslinging go, this is just more routine mudslinging coverage.-- Dloh cier ekim 18:35, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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want to talk? 04:26, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Please read what snow keep means. One should know something well before using it. :)--DBig Xrayᗙ 06:16, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:16, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:16, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete agree with nom
WP:ATTACKPAGE --DBig Xrayᗙ 18:30, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Delete - I don't see anything about the case on this page, only about one person's arrest. There is probably material out there for a page, but this is not the way to go about it. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:04, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Changing my !vote as the content has significantly improved. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:25, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep As per
WP:PUBLICFIGURE in India my a mile.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:31, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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- This is all about P. Chidambaram, who already has a page. Where is any information about the case? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:20, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- There is extensive coverage about the case and expect more coverage about the case after his arrest ,it is ongoing these are several articles about the case.
  - What the INX Media case is about ,
    Times of India
  - WHAT IS INX MEDIA CASE , Business Standard ,
  - Explained: What is INX Media case against P Chidambaram? ,
    Indian Express
  - INX Media case: Timeline of scam that has CBI, ED looking for P Chidambaram , India Today
  - Chronology of events in INX media corruption case , Deccan Chronicle
  - What is INX Media case? ,
    WP:GNG and do expect to be lasting as this very high profile case. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:29, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  - Thanks. Now we know the information exists. The next question is, do we have anybody interested in writing a proper page on it? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:44, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    - I had classified the points and organised in a better way to make them readable. However, I am ready for contributing in this article. Extensive information is available on various source and this is not small and routine scandal. Former Home Minister and his son is directly involved in the case, court has denied them bail, investigation is happening atleast since 2016 and people like Subramanian Swamy took this court to the government,courts and various agencies. This deserves Wikipedia page; this is not possible to include in the existing page of Chidambaram. --
      want to talk? 04:16, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Delete per NOM. --Gazal world (talk) 07:01, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is surely no need for a separate distinct breakout sub-article about this when
INX Media is such a short and poor article. Uncle G (talk) 08:18, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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I am a beginner, just could give a suggestion. Why don't we just add this
talk) 08:36, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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That would be the way that I would do it. Indeed, that has been the way that I did it, with
headlinese and not in accordance with how Wikipedia articles are named. The actual names of the subjects are the companies.
Note also that I Monetary Advisory does not include arrests or politican-makes-pronouncement non-facts, and is not spread out in pieces across the biographies of the people involved.
Incidentally note that we are still missing Special Investigation Team (India), which is not a Special Investigation Team by my reckoning. ☺
Uncle G (talk) 08:52, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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WP:ATTACKPAGE--DBig Xrayᗙ 09:17, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Keep Major scam that is right now being investigated by the High Court with a former cabinet minister and incumbent MP facing arrest. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 08:50, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
… for which we already had an article on the company. Uncle G (talk) 08:52, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The scam is not related to company alone. Scam is related to four bodies, IMX, Mexis, Aircel and Chidambaram father and son who allegedly took bribe for giving them permission or that sort of. These much information can’t be added on everyone’s Wikipedia page, so, it’s perfect to have different Wikipedia page dedicated to INX Media case and Aircel-Maxis case which both are different and detailed. Regards,—
want to talk? 10:52, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Scam ? or Allegations of Scam ? Has there been any convictions ? Any indictments ? You are missing the central problem here and beating about the bush. Understand that Wikipedia is
WP:PROPAGANDA. --DBig Xrayᗙ 11:32, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Apologies. Major allegations of a scam. Nevertheless, it still satisfies
WP:GNG. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:39, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Please see
WhatabouteryDBig Xrayᗙ 11:49, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Rsrikanth05, When an article is being used as an
WP:GNG cannot be used to justify attackpages. Almost every attackpage ever created on wikipedia contains newspaper coverages and yet they are deleted. --DBig Xrayᗙ 11:49, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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want to talk? 13:33, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Keep a major scam of political corruption in India involving then Finance and Home minister of the country. Shyamsunder (talk) 11:46, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Seems to be notable topic passing GNG. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 12:25, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is no reason for this article to be deleted as per wikipedia deletion policy. This article definitely needs to be improved with addition of content but that will be done in the coming days. This article is related to a high profile case and hence the politician and there supports might be asking for deletion. But that should not be a ground of deletion at all. The article is not maligning any person and if it is, then it should be corrected rather than deleting the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adityak01 (talk • contribs) 13:54, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as this issue is being raised in the media for quite some time and has gained a lot of attention. The article needs to have some more details so that it can qualify for an article. clickheretogototheuserpageofAggarwala2727 (talk) 19:06, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Question @
WP:AFDEQ. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 03:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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I was going post an explanation here after the page move, but got too tired at that point.

I moved the page to a title that correctly describes its content. From the first sentence to the last, this page is only about the case against P. Chidambaram, not one on INX Media. I also retitled a section that called itself "Investigation" but only described the arrest of the subject. This page is likely to show up high on Google hits as the case hots up, and it is important to present a correct picture to the readers, much more so than our internal bureaucratic processes.

I realize that the page move makes this AfD somewhat of a "mistrial". Perhaps it should be withdrawn so that a more appropriate AfD on the grounds of
WP:POVFORK can be brought forward? Dlohcierekim, thoughts? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 09:29, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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I think moving it during the AfD unnecessarily complicated things. And no "mistrial". The AfD and/or the content must rise and fall on their merits regardless of what the name of the article has been changed to. Noting that this is mostly a page designed to attack a particular person does, in my mind, strengthen the argument for deletion.-- Dloh cier ekim 09:37, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The original intent of the page was to cover the complete INX Media case. You moved it to make it focus only about Chidambaram thus diluting the topic and making it look like a POVFORK. One can maliciously again move it to "Chidambaram's arrest in INX Media case" and thus make it more strong case for POVyness. Does the article not talk about Mukerjea and Chidambaram's son? The article was AFDed within a day not leaving time to add much info. All the arguments calling for deletion for being fork should be quashed as those are content issues, not of notability of topic. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:11, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You are welcome to move it back if you expand the content to cover the whole case. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:44, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - notable scam. --Ashok Talk 18:44, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Per above. ∯WBG^converse 14:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Notable scam. I can volunteer to improve the page. Csgir (talk) 04:03, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Notable topic but article needs improvement. If you have an issue with the article's tone/content, discuss it at the relevant talk page instead of incorrectly citing ATTACKPAGE at AfD. Dee 03 18:50, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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