Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Interpolation (popular music)

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Spartaz Humbug! 07:32, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Interpolation (popular music)

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WP:OR. No cites, the term exist in music, but we have an article for that - Interpolation (classical music) - which is, admittedly, poorly sourced. Acousmana 15:55, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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  • Article now well sourced: not a single scholarly source on this term? An XXL cite that deals with sampling and doesn't mention interpolation? Billboard staff picks? Rolling Stone is usable, and perhaps Song Trust, but where are the solid sources that explore the origin (earliest example I'm seeing is 2003, re:Eminem liner notes) and usage history of this term as is relates to interpolation in popular music? Are you sure this isn't a technical term originating in IP law etc. rather than music production? Acousmana 11:52, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge - A comparison has been made to Interpolation (classical music) but that article needs work too. For this "popular music" version, there are sources describing certain songs as "interpolated" but I find them using questionable definitions of the term that do not correspond with any professional musicological definition. For the popular music songs described in those sources, some might be "interpolated", but others just use really long and repetitive sampling. Meanwhile, the classical article is rather thin and it looks like its creators can't quite nail down an authoritative definition from the sources used. So I suggest a merge in which Interpolation (popular music) and Interpolation (classical music) become a combined article, to use examples from both arenas and work on a distinct definition of the term. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:21, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
tend to agree with @User:Doomsdayer520's assessment, with work, a merged article may well result in something more substantial that either of the current separate entries. I would accept this as a solution. Acousmana 18:56, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
They were one article before, @Aikclaes: separated the two in January 2019 here. All the examples given are interpolations, including the ones you say use "long and repetitive sampling", this is because the songs do not use direct samples. All elements are replayed / recreated hence the difference between sampling and interpolation. Hiddenstranger (talk) 23:59, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
it seems to me that some music industry lawyer thought that calling it "interpolation" would be a good way to distract from the
appropriation at play; this applies equally to "sample." Imagine if the word sample never caught on and people instead asked "what drum break appropriation is that"? Rather than Whosampled? we'd have "WhoAppropraited"? Acousmana 09:25, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Interpolation (popular music) seems more related to Sampling (music) than it is to Interpolation (classical music) and so I think Sampling (music) would be a more appropriate merge target. Rlendog (talk) 20:46, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sampling happens in classical music as well but that doesn't need a separate article. Definite vote for merge. 82.43.200.83 (talk) 17:53, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment only You think this article would differentiate between plagiarism and interpolation, after all George Harrison, only replayed the notes for My Sweet Lord but that landed him in the courts. --Richhoncho (talk) 08:57, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A more pedestrian term would be musical quotation. Interpolation is just a buzzword that folk have latched on to. Acousmana 19:17, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to see more opinions on whether Interpolation (popular music) and the possible merger target, Interpolation (classical music) are discussing the same thing or are different subjects.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:46, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: We need some editors who are knowledgeable about music to chime in here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:28, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep, Interpolation in pop music is absolutely notable and a big enough scope for an article of its own. It cannot be merged into the "in classical music" article because the definitions differ. —VersaceSpace 🌃 18:10, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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