Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Irish Whip Wrestling (2nd nomination)

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The result was no consensus. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:26, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Irish Whip Wrestling

Notability has not been established. Reads like an advertisement mainly, and a bad one at that. Was deleted once before, but was recreated.--WillC 12:17, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages:

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. —WillC 12:26, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. —WillC 12:29, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, that article is very poor...and needs a complete re-write for sure. I'm a bit torn on whether or not the promotion is notable. I've found two sources [1] and [2], but I'm not sure if that counts as significant third party coverage or if those sites are reliable. According to this, it was on television...although I'm not sure whether it was a network or local channel, which would make a difference when looking at the notability guideline for TV programs. I'm going to keep looking before I make a decision, but I wanted to write out my thoughts for other users, as it might help them make a decision. Nikki♥311 20:20, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Per an identical discussion earlier this year in which it was determined that the promotion was sufficiently notable for inclusion. The promotion has been discussed in several reliable news sources. For example, [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10],[11], and [12]. GaryColemanFan (talk) 23:41, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Provisional Neutral: I agree with the nom about how this reads, but this might be able to be saved with a massive rewrite. Strongly recommend it so notability can be properly assessed. RICK ME DOODLE YOU DOODLE 08:32, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all The coverage is nothing more than glorified press releases, fails
WP:V. 2 lines of K₃₀₃ 12:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Weak keep, the promotion seems to be the most prominent promotion in Ireland, which would give it some notability. It ran for two seasons on
Sky Digital, as well as having shows on both Buzz TV and The Wrestling Channel. However, the individual championships should probably be merged into the main article, as they don't have any notability of their own. Nikki♥311 01:17, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Comment - That was the outcome of the recent AfD on this article (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Irish Whip Wrestling International Heavyweight Championship), so merging them sounds good to me. GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:07, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - This seems okay but it needs sources. I agree with Nikki about the titles. Mad Dog Dunstan (talk) 11:32, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Too many redlinks on wrestlers and no sources fails this on the question of
notability. Get Dumb 08:28, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Keep Irish Whip Wrestling (the main article), and merge the championship articles into it. It had a television programme on a national channel, and User:GaryColemanFan has listed numerous mentions in reliable, secondary sources. It needs a pretty serious cleanup and rewrite, but notability is established in my mind. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 12:01, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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