Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iryna Sysoyenko

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Iryna Sysoyenko

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:04, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:05, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:06, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:06, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• WP:BIO also says that an article about a person who fails the basic criteria but meets the additional criteria should be merged into a broader topic, which, for a politician, will typically be a list of members of the legislature. This precludes deletion of any article satisfying WP:POLITICIAN on grounds of notability. James500 (talk) 04:14, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • In this case, there does not appear to be such a list on en.wiki. The closest candidate would be
    principle of least surprise (redirects should point to pages that actually mention the redirect subject in some meaningful fashion). With no valid target for a redirect, what are we to do except delete? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:58, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    • WP:BIO says "If no article currently exists into which the person can be merged, consider writing the article yourself or request the article be written." Is there some reason why such a list cannot be created? James500 (talk) 19:16, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply
      ]
      • There is an article on the uk.wiki (https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Верховна_Рада_України_VIII_скликання), so I suppose an effort can be made to translate that to English, and then redirect the current target to that translated list. Any takers? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:59, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep we've longstanding consensus that members of national legislatures are notable and for many good reasons, not least of which it avoids the systematic bias that would result otherwise. This person verifiably meets
  Komsomolskaya Pravda one of the three largest newspapers in the Ukraine. The article also has a side box where she features on a magazine cover, apparently not online, where she gets an article devoted to her, though as that's offline it's hard to evaluate its reliability. Incidentally, the nominator is mistaken about how the electoral system in Ukraine works, it's not a Closed list system, as they seem to believe, so people aren't elected "en masse." It's a mixed system, with some elected from single member constituencies and the rest elected from Open lists, i.e. the party gets a certain number of seats and then the most voted for candidates within the list get those seats. Sysoyenko was elected because her party received more votes than many others *and* she received more votes from the electorate than other candidates of her party. The latter is something which no member of the British or Canadian parliaments can say. Valenciano (talk) 17:08, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply
  ]

@Valenciano: Thank you for finding those sources. I was unable to find anything significant using the various spellings of her name that I could discover, but these articles use an alternate spelling and do, indeed, provide sufficient coverage. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 06:07, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:BEFORE. I wonder, though, if given the fact that these sources have now come to light, you'd consider withdrawing the nomination? Valenciano (talk) 11:45, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply

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• Keep. Member of national legislature for major nation, and thus inherently notable. Well-covered by reliable sources. -LtNOWIS (talk)
• Withdrawn. Sources have appeared that meet requirements for
  WP:POLITICIAN. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:04, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply
  ]

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