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The result was redirect‎ to Yugoslavia in the Eurovision Song Contest. voorts (talk/contributions) 03:47, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jugovizija

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I have been researching past Yugoslav national finals using newspaper archives with the aim of improving the currently existing articles which are reliant on fansites for information, a clear breach of

WP:RS
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So far I have researched the national finals of 1961-1976 using the Digital Library of Slovenia and my progress so far can be seen on my Sandbox. I plan on doing the remaining 1981-1992 national finals, as well as using newspaper archives from other former Yugoslav countries. However, I can already make a case for the deletion of this article.

In the Digital Library of Slovenia, only 1987, 1990, and 1991 have been referred to as Jugovizija and the national final has only been referred to that in TV guides in 1990.[1][2][3] However, this article has added the name Jugovizija post hoc to every national final before then; and even to Yugoslavia's only internal selection in 1963 which went unnamed.[4] Most Yugoslav national finals had a different name from year to year, with the only consistency being 1973-1976 where they used the Opatija Festival [hr], a previously unrelated competition, as their national selection.[5] Pasting the Jugovizija name over this is inaccurate, and would be like putting the name Italovision on editions of the Sanremo Music Festival which were used as national finals. The name Jugovizija implies that these shows were part of a series of shows, when in reality they are a disconnected set of shows only united by a similar premise, that being to select the Yugoslav entry for the Eurovision Song Contest. Using Ireland as an example, they are as different to each other as the National Song Contest 1970, Eurosong 1996, and a 2025 episode of the Late Late Show are.

In addition to the problems surrounding the name, the article is full of factual inaccuracies, owing to the fact it only cites three sources, two of which being the same fansite. As already mentioned, it lists Yugoslavia's 1963 internal selection as a national final. Says that the contest was originally called Jugovizija in 1961, when it was actually called Pesem Evrovizije and Evrovizija 1961 in TV guides.[6][7] And claims that the format of the 1971 national final had the subnational broadcasters submit entries, when it was actually an exception in this way.[8]

All of these reasons listed above lead me to think that Jugovizija is a name that JRT used only a few times in the late 80s and 90s which fans have adopted to refer to the national finals. It is a fun name for a national final, but I think this article is misrepresentative of Yugoslav national finals and this information would be better represented with more detailed per-year articles on Yugoslav national finals, which I am working on. However, in these articles, I would not be opposed to adding a line after stating the actual name of the national final that says something along the lines of: "The national final, along with every other Yugoslav national final, has also been called Jugovizija post hoc by fans of the Eurovision Song Contest", as long as I can find a suitable source for this statement.Spleennn (talk) 16:49, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Stop". Delo (in Slovenian). Vol. 29, no. 60. Ljubljana. 13 March 1987. p. 16. Retrieved 29 May 2025 – via Digital Library of Slovenia.
  2. ^ "Spored za Soboto - Televizija - Zagreb I" [Schedule for Saturday - Television - Zagreb I]. Delo (in Slovenian). Vol. 32, no. 64. Ljubljana. 17 March 1990. p. 14. Retrieved 29 May 2025 – via Digital Library of Slovenia.
  3. ^ "Ostale bodo le pesmi" [Only Songs Will Remain]. Novi Tednik (in Slovenian). Vol. 45, no. 21. 30 May 1991. p. 26. Retrieved 29 May 2025 – via Digital Library of Slovenia.
  4. ^ "Londonski Lekcija" [London's Lesson]. Panorama (in Slovenian). Vol. 1, no. 13. Glas. 30 March 1963. p. 5. Retrieved 21 March 2025 – via Digital Library of Slovenia.
  5. ISBN 978-953-303-912-1. Archived from the original
    (PDF) on 28 March 2021. Retrieved 1 May 2025.
  6. ^ "Obvestila - Spored - Mali Oglasi: RTV" [Announcements - Schedule - Small Ads: RTV]. Delo (in Slovenian). Vol. 2, no. 22. Ljubljana. 24 January 1961. p. 9. Retrieved 20 March 2025 – via Digital Library of Slovenia.
  7. ^ "Tedenski Program Radia Ljubljana od 12. do 19. Februarja 1961: Četrtek II. Program" [Weekly Program of Radio Ljubljana from 12th to 19th February 1961: Thursday II. Program]. Delo (in Slovenian). Vol. 3, no. 40. Ljubljana. 11 February 1961. p. 9. Retrieved 20 March 2025 – via Digital Library of Slovenia.
  8. ^ G., V. (7 February 1971). "Najbolša v Dublin: Jugoslovanski final za „Pesem Evrovizije"" [The best in Dublin: Yugoslav final for the “Eurovision Song”]. Delo (in Slovenian). Vol. 13, no. 35. Ljubljana. p. 5. Retrieved 21 April 2025 – via Digital Library of Slovenia.
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 06:03, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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